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Rory is definitely one to watch, I hope his time will come. But that time needs to be post-Brexit, because if they don't see it through we won't be having another Tory admin for a long time.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 23:09 - Jun 13 by pickles110564
Glad his outburst has come out in time to rule him out.
Are you bothered by the awful stuff Johnson has spent his life saying? Should that rule him out?
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country."
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 21:56 - Jun 13 by BlueBadger
Christ, it's unreadably bleak, is that one.
I have a theory, which I have not been so ghoulish as to Google, that he must have written 'A Song of Stone' after he got an initial diagnosis for the cancer which he announced sixteen or so years later. How he starts that book with things already looking almost as bad as they can get, and then they get worse...and worse...and worse. Later on it goes much more downhill. As you say, bleak but so well written and paced.
Or maybe he just overheard a conversation in an Edinburgh pub and fleshed it out a bit.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 07:02 - Jun 14 by Dubtractor
You know the answer to that.
In fairness mate you recently posted that you would vote Labour at the next GE so you’re willing to turn a blind eye to the awful things JC has said and done over the years.
I don’t think anyone who is willing to vote Corbyn has any moral authority to criticise people who would vote Johnson.
Two awful people who would be a complete and utter disaster for our country.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 07:43 - Jun 14 by GlasgowBlue
In fairness mate you recently posted that you would vote Labour at the next GE so you’re willing to turn a blind eye to the awful things JC has said and done over the years.
I don’t think anyone who is willing to vote Corbyn has any moral authority to criticise people who would vote Johnson.
Two awful people who would be a complete and utter disaster for our country.
That's a slight misrepresentation of my position in fairness, though based on a very brief exchange so I can see why.
I think that Corbyn is hugely flawed, his lack of action on a number of issues is a problem, no doubt about it, but my decision (just about) to still support is because I believe Labour to be the best option. I would still rather a Labour party with a leader more to the centre left. My support is more for Labour than for Corbyn.
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I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 22:24 - Jun 13 by baxterbasics
Rory is definitely one to watch, I hope his time will come. But that time needs to be post-Brexit, because if they don't see it through we won't be having another Tory admin for a long time.
If they do see it through without a sensible withdrawal there won't be another Tory government for a long time. But because any sort of sensible deal involves compromise it will be deemed not proper Brexit by the zealots.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 07:47 - Jun 14 by Dubtractor
That's a slight misrepresentation of my position in fairness, though based on a very brief exchange so I can see why.
I think that Corbyn is hugely flawed, his lack of action on a number of issues is a problem, no doubt about it, but my decision (just about) to still support is because I believe Labour to be the best option. I would still rather a Labour party with a leader more to the centre left. My support is more for Labour than for Corbyn.
Whatever way you look at it dubbbers a vote for labour is a vote to put an antisemite into No 10.
Your view may be that a Labour government will be better for the country as a whole but should the Btish Jewish community be chucked under a bus to achieve that?
I think the Tories are still a better option than a far left labour government but it would be inconceivable for me to vote Tory whilst the people involved in the DUP deal were still running the show or if an Islamophobia like Johnson was leader. Even if Rory became leader I couldn’t vote for him until he’d purged the party of the far right wing thinking that has taken hold.
Nick Griffin, the leader of the last party to be fully investigated by the EHRC for racial discrimination, had some very traditional Labour policies (including nationalisation of the utilities, withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan) in the BNP manifesto a few years back. You wouldn’t have considered voting BNP because of the racism so I’m struggling to understand anyone who could tick the Labour box whilst the EHRC investigation is taking place or Corbyn, Milne etc have hold the levers of power in Labour.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 06:55 - Jun 14 by WeWereZombies
I have a theory, which I have not been so ghoulish as to Google, that he must have written 'A Song of Stone' after he got an initial diagnosis for the cancer which he announced sixteen or so years later. How he starts that book with things already looking almost as bad as they can get, and then they get worse...and worse...and worse. Later on it goes much more downhill. As you say, bleak but so well written and paced.
Or maybe he just overheard a conversation in an Edinburgh pub and fleshed it out a bit.
I doubt it's that. Gallbladder cancer is notoriously difficult to diagnose and can often only truly shows itself for what it is very late in the day. The Balkan Civil War and JG ballard are cited here.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 08:12 - Jun 14 by GlasgowBlue
Whatever way you look at it dubbbers a vote for labour is a vote to put an antisemite into No 10.
Your view may be that a Labour government will be better for the country as a whole but should the Btish Jewish community be chucked under a bus to achieve that?
I think the Tories are still a better option than a far left labour government but it would be inconceivable for me to vote Tory whilst the people involved in the DUP deal were still running the show or if an Islamophobia like Johnson was leader. Even if Rory became leader I couldn’t vote for him until he’d purged the party of the far right wing thinking that has taken hold.
Nick Griffin, the leader of the last party to be fully investigated by the EHRC for racial discrimination, had some very traditional Labour policies (including nationalisation of the utilities, withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan) in the BNP manifesto a few years back. You wouldn’t have considered voting BNP because of the racism so I’m struggling to understand anyone who could tick the Labour box whilst the EHRC investigation is taking place or Corbyn, Milne etc have hold the levers of power in Labour.
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There aren't any good options though are there? The Tories are heading for their own EHRC investigation given they've taken charges of Islamophobia with the same serious that Corbyn has looked into antisemitism.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 08:12 - Jun 14 by GlasgowBlue
Whatever way you look at it dubbbers a vote for labour is a vote to put an antisemite into No 10.
Your view may be that a Labour government will be better for the country as a whole but should the Btish Jewish community be chucked under a bus to achieve that?
I think the Tories are still a better option than a far left labour government but it would be inconceivable for me to vote Tory whilst the people involved in the DUP deal were still running the show or if an Islamophobia like Johnson was leader. Even if Rory became leader I couldn’t vote for him until he’d purged the party of the far right wing thinking that has taken hold.
Nick Griffin, the leader of the last party to be fully investigated by the EHRC for racial discrimination, had some very traditional Labour policies (including nationalisation of the utilities, withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan) in the BNP manifesto a few years back. You wouldn’t have considered voting BNP because of the racism so I’m struggling to understand anyone who could tick the Labour box whilst the EHRC investigation is taking place or Corbyn, Milne etc have hold the levers of power in Labour.
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Labour having a problem with antisemitism doesn't make Corbyn an antisemite. A man who's fought for peace all his life isn't going to become a racist overnight.
You used to say you didn't believe he was an antisemite. Now he's in danger of getting in you're claiming he is.
Claiming anyone who votes Labour is throwing the jewish community under the bus is as offensive as the Tories old' "If you want a [redacted] for a neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour".
By all means call out actual antisemites. You know - people actually proven to be antisemites. But to accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government that only seems to care about the elite, is disgusting.
Has the stupid mendacious fat shtbag said on the record he would do such a thing?
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 08:48 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
Labour having a problem with antisemitism doesn't make Corbyn an antisemite. A man who's fought for peace all his life isn't going to become a racist overnight.
You used to say you didn't believe he was an antisemite. Now he's in danger of getting in you're claiming he is.
Claiming anyone who votes Labour is throwing the jewish community under the bus is as offensive as the Tories old' "If you want a [redacted] for a neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour".
By all means call out actual antisemites. You know - people actually proven to be antisemites. But to accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government that only seems to care about the elite, is disgusting.
Could you point out where I have “accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government”.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 08:48 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
Labour having a problem with antisemitism doesn't make Corbyn an antisemite. A man who's fought for peace all his life isn't going to become a racist overnight.
You used to say you didn't believe he was an antisemite. Now he's in danger of getting in you're claiming he is.
Claiming anyone who votes Labour is throwing the jewish community under the bus is as offensive as the Tories old' "If you want a [redacted] for a neighbour, vote Liberal or Labour".
By all means call out actual antisemites. You know - people actually proven to be antisemites. But to accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government that only seems to care about the elite, is disgusting.
i do think you've lost this one. the ehrc investigation is happening because of the total institutional failure under corbyn's leadership to tackle a wide spread problem. all objective observers can see that to be the case.
and however many times you say 'a man who's fought for peace all his life isn't going to become a racist overnight.' doesn't make it true.
some of us had actually heard of corbyn before 2015 so rewriting history won't wash i'm afraid.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:14 - Jun 14 with 2825 views
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 08:58 - Jun 14 by GlasgowBlue
Could you point out where I have “accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government”.
And yes Corbyn is an antisemite.
"a vote for labour is a vote to put an antisemite into No 10.
Your view may be that a Labour government will be better for the country as a whole but should the Btish Jewish community be chucked under a bus to achieve that?"
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:09 - Jun 14 by lowhouseblue
i do think you've lost this one. the ehrc investigation is happening because of the total institutional failure under corbyn's leadership to tackle a wide spread problem. all objective observers can see that to be the case.
and however many times you say 'a man who's fought for peace all his life isn't going to become a racist overnight.' doesn't make it true.
some of us had actually heard of corbyn before 2015 so rewriting history won't wash i'm afraid.
Corbyn's failure to adequately deal with some nutters who joined the Labour party doesn't make him an antisemite.
He has fought for peace all his life. There's a tonne of evidence for it.
"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has spent his life campaigning for peace and speaking out against military action.
He was one of the UK's leading campaigners against the 2003 Iraq war - and also voted against British involvement in military action in Afghanistan and Libya.
In fact, he has voted against every military action proposed by the UK government during his 35 years in Parliament."
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:14 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
"a vote for labour is a vote to put an antisemite into No 10.
Your view may be that a Labour government will be better for the country as a whole but should the Btish Jewish community be chucked under a bus to achieve that?"
So I didn’t “accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government”.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:43 - Jun 14 by GlasgowBlue
So I didn’t “accuse decent, ordinary people of antisemitism simply for believing in the policies of Labour and wanting rid of a Conservative government”.
Thanks for confirming.
Nice squirming, but that's pretty much what you're saying there (and what you've intimated on here for a while about anyone who supports Corbyn). Everyone can see it Glassers.
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:22 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
Corbyn's failure to adequately deal with some nutters who joined the Labour party doesn't make him an antisemite.
He has fought for peace all his life. There's a tonne of evidence for it.
"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has spent his life campaigning for peace and speaking out against military action.
He was one of the UK's leading campaigners against the 2003 Iraq war - and also voted against British involvement in military action in Afghanistan and Libya.
In fact, he has voted against every military action proposed by the UK government during his 35 years in Parliament."
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:22 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
Corbyn's failure to adequately deal with some nutters who joined the Labour party doesn't make him an antisemite.
He has fought for peace all his life. There's a tonne of evidence for it.
"Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has spent his life campaigning for peace and speaking out against military action.
He was one of the UK's leading campaigners against the 2003 Iraq war - and also voted against British involvement in military action in Afghanistan and Libya.
In fact, he has voted against every military action proposed by the UK government during his 35 years in Parliament."
Rory’s not having any of Boris’ shenanigans on 09:50 - Jun 14 by BrixtonBlue
Given I've posted nothing but facts, I'd love for my downarrowers to explain themselves.
Unless you're alt-logins of Lowhouse and Glassers of course.
To fight for peace means dialogues with both sides of the conflict. All he's done is chosen one side (normally anti western position). As someone has pointed out he was against intervention in Kosovo, his support for the IRA did more to hinder than help so that's why I have down voted.
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