| Evans 21:08 - Jan 4 with 3024 views | blueislander |
Anyone care to speculate where we might be if he hadn’t bought the club? |  | | |  |
| Evans on 21:08 - Jan 4 with 3011 views | J2BLUE |
Roughly the same place? |  |
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| Evans on 21:10 - Jan 4 with 2998 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Evans on 21:08 - Jan 4 by J2BLUE |
Roughly the same place? |
Or same place as Bury, or same place as Sheffield United, or anywhere really. |  |
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| Evans on 21:22 - Jan 4 with 2945 views | blueislander |
| Evans on 21:10 - Jan 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Or same place as Bury, or same place as Sheffield United, or anywhere really. |
By what means would we be in the Premier League. ? I suppose that is possible if a billionaire had bought us out of administration. Bit unlikely though. | | | |
| Evans on 21:26 - Jan 4 with 2927 views | PJH |
| Evans on 21:22 - Jan 4 by blueislander |
By what means would we be in the Premier League. ? I suppose that is possible if a billionaire had bought us out of administration. Bit unlikely though. |
At the time that Marcus Evans took over it was still just about possible to "buy" promotion.
That is what he thought that he was doing and it is what I and a lot of others thought we were doing.
In fact I remember leaving the EGM that approved his takeover and phoning my son to say "we have just bought promotion"-obviously not correct as it turned out but it seemed to me that we had. |  | | |
| Evans on 21:44 - Jan 4 with 2874 views | blueislander |
| Evans on 21:26 - Jan 4 by PJH |
At the time that Marcus Evans took over it was still just about possible to "buy" promotion.
That is what he thought that he was doing and it is what I and a lot of others thought we were doing.
In fact I remember leaving the EGM that approved his takeover and phoning my son to say "we have just bought promotion"-obviously not correct as it turned out but it seemed to me that we had. |
Absolutely right. I remember being in the Antigallatican just after he bought the club, and the fans were singing “we’re f-cking loaded”
But you haven’t offered an opinion as to where we might be had he not bought the club.
Imo he made mistakes in his appointments of managers, although, allegedly he did have football savvy advisors. People criticise his unwillingness to invest more, and that may have brought better results, but who are we to spend other people’s money? | | | |
| Evans on 21:49 - Jan 4 with 2850 views | J2BLUE |
| Evans on 21:10 - Jan 4 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Or same place as Bury, or same place as Sheffield United, or anywhere really. |
I don't think we'd be a Bury. Someone else would likely have bought us as Evans wasn't the only one who wanted to buy us. We might be in a worse situation but frankly it's hard to imagine right now. It seems our natural level gets lower and lower by the year. Arguably our natural level is now top 8 in league one. Can anyone see us competing if we managed to go back up or would it be another season like last season as we go back down? | |
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| Evans on 21:53 - Jan 4 with 2826 views | TheBoyBlue |
Don't know. But if he'd made better decisions, spent just a fraction more (not tens of millions extra, but just a decent amount to get the right player, such as enough to ensure we got Charlie Austin for example) and we would probably have got promotion to the PL. | |
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| Evans on 21:55 - Jan 4 with 2818 views | PJH |
| Evans on 21:44 - Jan 4 by blueislander |
Absolutely right. I remember being in the Antigallatican just after he bought the club, and the fans were singing “we’re f-cking loaded”
But you haven’t offered an opinion as to where we might be had he not bought the club.
Imo he made mistakes in his appointments of managers, although, allegedly he did have football savvy advisors. People criticise his unwillingness to invest more, and that may have brought better results, but who are we to spend other people’s money? |
No I haven't offered an opinion because my post was just answering yours which was asking by what means we could have made the Premier League.
I don't know where we would have been without him, either bankrupt or owned by somebody else I suppose.
I laugh at most of the attacks on him, as you say "who are we to spend other people's money?" | | | |
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| Evans on 21:59 - Jan 4 with 2795 views | Churchman |
| Evans on 21:22 - Jan 4 by blueislander |
By what means would we be in the Premier League. ? I suppose that is possible if a billionaire had bought us out of administration. Bit unlikely though. |
We were in a similar position to Leicester when Evans pitched up. They got people who engaged with the city, wanted to develop the club and the rest is history. Wolves? A basket case not so long ago. Charlton: a basket case until a few months ago. So a positive outcome was possible.
But Sheepshanks presumably wanted to protect his money and business interests, so he flogged the club as soon as he possibly could and clearly wasn’t too fussed who it went to. So we got flip-a-quid Evans and the rest really is history. He is a marginally less toxic version of the clowns who wrecked Portsmouth, Blackpool, Bolton and Coventry - and even 2 of those are in a better state than ITFC are. |  | | |
| Evans on 21:59 - Jan 4 with 2794 views | HARRY10 |
| Evans on 21:26 - Jan 4 by PJH |
At the time that Marcus Evans took over it was still just about possible to "buy" promotion.
That is what he thought that he was doing and it is what I and a lot of others thought we were doing.
In fact I remember leaving the EGM that approved his takeover and phoning my son to say "we have just bought promotion"-obviously not correct as it turned out but it seemed to me that we had. |
Were the scum in a better position than us when he took over ?
He appointed Keane as they were being relegated to LI.
How the feck did they do what they have done over the past decade and likewise with us ? If anything we have the wealthy owner, yet they seem to pick themselves up each time they are knocked down (relegated) and bounce back again.
All we've had is being fed endless promises, plans and false dawns. Maybe Lambert is part of a longer term plan to turn the club around rather than a quick fix to get us out of LI - but not winning in any of our last 15 games (all comps) rather suggests the overhaul is going to need all of his extended contract ro complete.
As far as I can see, it has been a wasted 12 years under Evans direction. | | | |
| Evans on 22:02 - Jan 4 with 2783 views | PJH |
| Evans on 21:59 - Jan 4 by HARRY10 |
Were the scum in a better position than us when he took over ?
He appointed Keane as they were being relegated to LI.
How the feck did they do what they have done over the past decade and likewise with us ? If anything we have the wealthy owner, yet they seem to pick themselves up each time they are knocked down (relegated) and bounce back again.
All we've had is being fed endless promises, plans and false dawns. Maybe Lambert is part of a longer term plan to turn the club around rather than a quick fix to get us out of LI - but not winning in any of our last 15 games (all comps) rather suggests the overhaul is going to need all of his extended contract ro complete.
As far as I can see, it has been a wasted 12 years under Evans direction. |
All I am saying and will continue to say is that when he took over I believed that we had got it made and getting into the top division was close to being a formality-I think a lot of people believed that including Marcus Evans. | | | |
| Evans on 22:05 - Jan 4 with 2763 views | BackToRussia |
It would be hard to have done much worse than Evans has. |  |
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| Evans on 22:05 - Jan 4 with 2760 views | haynes_toe1 |
| Evans on 21:22 - Jan 4 by blueislander |
By what means would we be in the Premier League. ? I suppose that is possible if a billionaire had bought us out of administration. Bit unlikely though. |
We wouldnt have needed a billionaire to get into the premier league.
Plenty of teams promoted in the past decade not owned by the mega rich | | | |
| Evans on 22:13 - Jan 4 with 2732 views | blueislander |
| Evans on 22:05 - Jan 4 by haynes_toe1 |
We wouldnt have needed a billionaire to get into the premier league.
Plenty of teams promoted in the past decade not owned by the mega rich |
Which of those would have been in administration when their current owners bought them. ? Of the owners of those successful clubs all of them have hugely rich owners, apart perhaps, and most painfully, Scum. | | | |
| Evans on 09:28 - Jan 5 with 2625 views | RegencyBlue |
People keep saying where would we be without Evans to which the obvious answer is where are we going to end up with him?
More than a decade of relentless decline and no real sign of it ending surely shows that whatever Evans is up to, and despite all the theories on this board I don’t think any of us really know what that is, it’s not working for the club and it’s supporters. |  | | |
| Evans on 09:51 - Jan 5 with 2584 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Impossible to answer - but surely it would be impossible to think of a worse owner than one reviled across the sports and entertainment industry who uses offshore status to hasten the demise of the country whilst virtually ignoring the club he bought on a whim via FAX?
I think the answer can be seen close to home. Norwich have so far kept their identity and integrity - against the odds maybe... Cambridge and Luton have suffered somewhat by being asset stripped.
Were Luton a non-league club when 'Evans' took over? I think they are a good yardstick to measure the appalling effect that Evans has had on the club, its integrity and standing. | |
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| Evans on 13:26 - Jan 5 with 2513 views | Terry_Nutkins |
| Evans on 22:05 - Jan 4 by BackToRussia |
It would be hard to have done much worse than Evans has. |
And i think this thinking is a big part of the problem and the toxic atmosphere. The reality is it would have very easily been much much worse without Evans. We were in big trouble and we're not a hugely attractive buy. I think Evans prolonged the inevitable. He's not a bad man or a bad owner. He's just not rich enough (or prepared to throw away the millions of pounds a year it would take to challenge).
He's made mistakes. | |
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| Evans on 14:05 - Jan 5 with 2476 views | Oxford_Blue |
| Evans on 21:26 - Jan 4 by PJH |
At the time that Marcus Evans took over it was still just about possible to "buy" promotion.
That is what he thought that he was doing and it is what I and a lot of others thought we were doing.
In fact I remember leaving the EGM that approved his takeover and phoning my son to say "we have just bought promotion"-obviously not correct as it turned out but it seemed to me that we had. |
You’re right.
The club had come 7th the year before with no money.
It wasn’t a wild dream to think that with about £12m plus the absence of owing debt to third parties, we would go up. | | | |
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