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Kill your pets 17:48 - Feb 12 with 11971 viewsLord_Lucan

The New Scientist, in a recent editorial entitled "Cute, fluffy and horribly greedy", largely agreed with the book's findings that some pets, due to the food they eat, have a surprisingly high "ecological footprint" (a way of quantifying human demand on the planet's ecosystems using a measure called "global hectares"). "According to the authors . . . it takes 0.84 hectares [2.07 acres] of land to keep a medium-sized dog fed. In contrast, running a 4.6-litre Toyota Land Cruiser, including the energy required to construct the thing and drive it 10,000km a year, requires 0.41 hectares. Dogs are not the only environmental sinners. The eco-footprint of a cat equates to that of a Volkswagen Golf. If that's troubling, there is an even more shocking comparison. In 2004, the average citizen of Vietnam had an ecological footprint of 0.76 hectares. For an Ethiopian, it was just 0.67 hectares. In a world where scarce resources are already hogged by the rich, can we really justify keeping pets that take more than some people?"

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427313-200-cute-fluffy-and-horribly-gre

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Kill your pets on 17:51 - Feb 12 with 4721 viewsfooters

Also, don't have kids.

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Kill your pets on 17:53 - Feb 12 with 4694 viewsHerbivore

Kill your pets on 17:51 - Feb 12 by footers

Also, don't have kids.


Yep, kids cause tons of environmental damage.

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Kill your pets on 17:54 - Feb 12 with 4688 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 17:51 - Feb 12 by footers

Also, don't have kids.


I saw something a few days ago about a family who have 22[?] children.

I don't get it. And I know people can't be dictated to about having the families they want, but at the same time isn't there some responsibility to not reproduce on a larger scale than necessary too?

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Kill your pets on 17:56 - Feb 12 with 4674 viewsfooters

Kill your pets on 17:53 - Feb 12 by Herbivore

Yep, kids cause tons of environmental damage.


And that's before they've even become proper, adult goats.

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Kill your pets on 17:57 - Feb 12 with 4664 viewsfooters

Kill your pets on 17:54 - Feb 12 by jeera

I saw something a few days ago about a family who have 22[?] children.

I don't get it. And I know people can't be dictated to about having the families they want, but at the same time isn't there some responsibility to not reproduce on a larger scale than necessary too?


Yeah, saw that. On one hand you can still understand that stuff happening in the developing world, or in certain cultures/countries for varying reasons, but in the UK? My grandad was one of thirteen. Unusually for that time, only one of them passed away. Family reunions are a nightmare.

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Kill your pets on 17:57 - Feb 12 with 4658 viewsjeera

"In a world where scarce resources are already hogged by the rich..."

There's our real answer then.

Was that a subtle call to arm there Lucers?

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Kill your pets on 18:00 - Feb 12 with 4644 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 17:57 - Feb 12 by footers

Yeah, saw that. On one hand you can still understand that stuff happening in the developing world, or in certain cultures/countries for varying reasons, but in the UK? My grandad was one of thirteen. Unusually for that time, only one of them passed away. Family reunions are a nightmare.


Times were different then though, and more understandable.

But with modern medicine and contraception and the knowledge the world is becoming ridiculously over-populated...

Maybe I'm wrong but I consider it selfish.

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Kill your pets on 18:05 - Feb 12 with 4617 viewsfactual_blue

Kill your pets on 17:57 - Feb 12 by jeera

"In a world where scarce resources are already hogged by the rich..."

There's our real answer then.

Was that a subtle call to arm there Lucers?


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Kill your pets on 18:06 - Feb 12 with 4616 viewsPecker

Pets are lovely though, whereas a lot of humans are horrible. Kill the humans first.
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Kill your pets on 18:08 - Feb 12 with 4606 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 18:05 - Feb 12 by factual_blue

Dean Swift's 'A Modest Proposal' resonates more with every passing day.


Dean?

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Kill your pets on 18:09 - Feb 12 with 4592 viewsHARRY10

Kill your pets on 17:51 - Feb 12 by footers

Also, don't have kids.


Fatties

yes Fat gits are far worse

they take up more room in football grounds overspilling onto other fans seats

cost more in fuel when on a train, bus or flying yet expect to pay the same

go a couple of pounds extra in your luggage and RyanAir will come down on you like a ton of bricks - yet weigh a ton of bricks and nothing is said

feeding them would keep a small tribe in papa new guinea feed

if you want to be fat then ok, but start to pay your share of what it costs thhat's my thought

and the thought of the LaF (The Legua against Fatties) of which I am a member
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Kill your pets on 18:12 - Feb 12 with 4570 viewsJ2BLUE

Kill your pets on 17:54 - Feb 12 by jeera

I saw something a few days ago about a family who have 22[?] children.

I don't get it. And I know people can't be dictated to about having the families they want, but at the same time isn't there some responsibility to not reproduce on a larger scale than necessary too?


Why can't we? I don't believe it's a human right to have 22 kids. We don't need anything as draconian as the one child policy but not sure why we need to allow people to completely take the piss.

Truly impaired.
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Kill your pets on 18:15 - Feb 12 with 4560 viewsfactual_blue

Kill your pets on 18:08 - Feb 12 by jeera

Dean?


Jonathan Swift was Dean of St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, hence his common sobriquet, "Dean Swift".

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Kill your pets on 18:15 - Feb 12 with 4560 viewsNewcyBlue

I’ve suggested we eat one of the rabbits. MrsN wasn’t too keen, they get fed fresh herbs every night, so they are well seasoned from within.

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Kill your pets on 18:12 - Feb 12 by J2BLUE

Why can't we? I don't believe it's a human right to have 22 kids. We don't need anything as draconian as the one child policy but not sure why we need to allow people to completely take the piss.


It's not enforceable is it.

But no, I don't know why there can't be encouragement for families to stop at one or two.

The world population has doubled, doubled in 50 years. That's insane.

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Kill your pets on 18:17 - Feb 12 with 4549 viewsJ2BLUE

Kill your pets on 18:15 - Feb 12 by jeera

It's not enforceable is it.

But no, I don't know why there can't be encouragement for families to stop at one or two.

The world population has doubled, doubled in 50 years. That's insane.


Hmm. I do have a policy to go alongside my flagship 'ban pensioners from supermarkets evenings and weekends' policy but but sure how well it would go down on here.

Truly impaired.
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Kill your pets on 18:18 - Feb 12 with 4538 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 18:15 - Feb 12 by factual_blue

Jonathan Swift was Dean of St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin, hence his common sobriquet, "Dean Swift".


There are times when I defoe if you're taking the pee or not.

But I shall google to check.

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Kill your pets on 18:19 - Feb 12 with 4535 viewsfooters

Kill your pets on 18:17 - Feb 12 by J2BLUE

Hmm. I do have a policy to go alongside my flagship 'ban pensioners from supermarkets evenings and weekends' policy but but sure how well it would go down on here.


And from peak-hour travel. Same applies to tourists.

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Kill your pets on 18:21 - Feb 12 with 4515 viewsPecker

Kill your pets on 17:54 - Feb 12 by jeera

I saw something a few days ago about a family who have 22[?] children.

I don't get it. And I know people can't be dictated to about having the families they want, but at the same time isn't there some responsibility to not reproduce on a larger scale than necessary too?


I haven't looked it up, but I will take a wild guess that they are living off the state.
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Kill your pets on 18:22 - Feb 12 with 4493 viewsGlasgowBlue

Kill your pets on 17:54 - Feb 12 by jeera

I saw something a few days ago about a family who have 22[?] children.

I don't get it. And I know people can't be dictated to about having the families they want, but at the same time isn't there some responsibility to not reproduce on a larger scale than necessary too?


That was Hackney Tractor’s sister.

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Kill your pets on 18:17 - Feb 12 by J2BLUE

Hmm. I do have a policy to go alongside my flagship 'ban pensioners from supermarkets evenings and weekends' policy but but sure how well it would go down on here.


While you're at it, can you ban mothers with children from, well anywhere, during the school holidays?

They should all be in big sheds unless at school.

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Kill your pets on 18:23 - Feb 12 with 4491 viewsfooters

Kill your pets on 18:21 - Feb 12 by Pecker

I haven't looked it up, but I will take a wild guess that they are living off the state.


If it's the same story, then no, Pecker me old fruit. You should see the pictures of the fella- looks run ragged, poor barsteward!

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Kill your pets on 18:18 - Feb 12 by jeera

There are times when I defoe if you're taking the pee or not.

But I shall google to check.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Swift

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Kill your pets on 18:25 - Feb 12 with 4472 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 18:21 - Feb 12 by Pecker

I haven't looked it up, but I will take a wild guess that they are living off the state.


Well that wasn't my point really.

I'm more concerned that there's a lot of people out there trying their best to do the right thing for the greater good (for the greater good) and it's being so readily undone by others who think their irresponsibility is something to be celebrated.

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Kill your pets on 18:26 - Feb 12 with 4461 viewsjeera

Kill your pets on 18:22 - Feb 12 by factual_blue

While you're at it, can you ban mothers with children from, well anywhere, during the school holidays?

They should all be in big sheds unless at school.


I actually don't have as much a problem with this idea as I probably should.

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