| Johnson's suppressed Russian report 19:01 - Mar 9 with 4409 views | HARRY10 |
"Russia has been accused of hiring a network of British politicians and consultants to help advance its criminal interests and to “go after” Vladimir Putin’s enemies in London, MPs who drew up the Russia report suppressed by Boris Johnson were told.
In secret evidence submitted to parliament’s intelligence and security committee (ISC), the campaigner and financier Bill Browder claimed Moscow had been able to “infiltrate” UK society by using well-paid British intermediaries.
Some had “reason to know exactly what they are doing and for whom”, Browder told the committee. Others “work unwittingly for Russian state interests”, he said."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/russia-network-britons-enemies-vla
"Browder argues that the Russian state and organised crime have in effect merged. Money stolen from the budget and private companies is used to enrich senior officials — including Putin — and to finance “black ops and special projects”, he told the ISC."
Boris Johnson has defended playing a game of tennis with the wife of one of Vladimir Putin’s ex-ministers in return for a £160,000 donation to the Conservatives. According to Electoral Commission records, she also made four other donations in addition to the one for the tennis game in 2017, amounting to an additional £87,250 given to the party. n 2016 there were five donations to the party from Ms Chernukhin altogether, totalling £77,912.
hmmm, I wonder why that report has still not been made public |  | | |  |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 19:08 - Mar 9 with 3439 views | ElderGrizzly |
Don’t worry. When Johnson has served his purpose it will be released by his backers |  | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 19:43 - Mar 9 with 3385 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 19:08 - Mar 9 by ElderGrizzly |
Don’t worry. When Johnson has served his purpose it will be released by his backers |
along with the Arcuri investigation
and who really funded his New Year trip to Mustique
someone does certainly seem to want to compromise him - better to get him to dance to their tune I suppose | | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:38 - Mar 10 with 3224 views | No9 |
What is the relationship between Guido Fawkes & the Russians + Guido Fawkes and the funding of Johnson in the tory leadership campaign? | | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 with 3204 views | hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:53 - Mar 10 with 3196 views | artsbossbeard |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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Tory-bot gonna Tory-bot. |  |
| Please note: prior to hitting the post button, I've double checked for anything that could be construed as "Anti Semitic" and to the best of my knowledge it isn't. Anything deemed to be of a Xenophobic nature is therefore purely accidental or down to your own misconstruing. | | Poll: | Raining in IP8 - shall I get the washing in? |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:00 - Mar 10 with 3176 views | Steve_M |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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In which case there is surely no reason not to release the report then. |  |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:20 - Mar 10 with 3139 views | hampstead_blue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:00 - Mar 10 by Steve_M |
In which case there is surely no reason not to release the report then. |
The context is that it is so easy to create links. Even the most tenuous would be jumped all over.
Like I said, Putin is an experienced intelligence operator. He would have laid links enough for the left to crawl all over.
The report is actually irrelevant. It's about your belief in what has been laid and created by a very active and aggressive intelligence service. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:21 - Mar 10 with 3139 views | footers |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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Were you really in military intelligence? |  |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:19 - Mar 10 with 3102 views | Steve_M |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:20 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
The context is that it is so easy to create links. Even the most tenuous would be jumped all over.
Like I said, Putin is an experienced intelligence operator. He would have laid links enough for the left to crawl all over.
The report is actually irrelevant. It's about your belief in what has been laid and created by a very active and aggressive intelligence service. |
So, Putin's intelligence services, to say nothing of the online troll armies, have tried to influence politics in the UK and other countries but reporting on that merely conforms to existing prejudices?
There was, and continues to be, a disinformation campaign the impact of which is difficult to quantify. However to ignore it is markedly political, only by assessing what happened can sensible countermeasures be taken. | |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:29 - Mar 10 with 3083 views | BloomBlue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:21 - Mar 10 by footers |
Were you really in military intelligence? |
He would have to shoot you if he told you. |  | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:31 - Mar 10 with 3078 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:21 - Mar 10 by footers |
Were you really in military intelligence? |
Of course he wasn't. He lacks the intelligence for pre-school ffs. |  |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:43 - Mar 10 with 3055 views | hampstead_blue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:21 - Mar 10 by footers |
Were you really in military intelligence? |
Yes and the reasons I've stated are simple common sense.
It is easy to lay threads and connections if you want to discredit someone. That's simple common sense.
Putin could do it to pretty much anyone he chooses. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:51 - Mar 10 with 3050 views | hampstead_blue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:19 - Mar 10 by Steve_M |
So, Putin's intelligence services, to say nothing of the online troll armies, have tried to influence politics in the UK and other countries but reporting on that merely conforms to existing prejudices?
There was, and continues to be, a disinformation campaign the impact of which is difficult to quantify. However to ignore it is markedly political, only by assessing what happened can sensible countermeasures be taken. |
I get your point.
My point is that it's pointless releasing this report. Anyone can see anything they want. It would be open season with more than likely zero grounds.
If you research into how links are made you would easily see that this is so blatant that it cannot be true.
Here is a good book. 'The Spy and the Traitor'. Fantastic author, Ben MacIntrye.
The first few chapters tell you everything about ties and links.
The real ties are so well hidden and buried they don't come out for many, many years.
There are many more examples.
This is so blatant that it would be foolish or negative propaganda
JC is already calling PP a bully when nothing is proven! If you give someone like him even the most tenuous tie he will knit you a red scarf. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| HAAAHHHAHAHAHAA! on 09:54 - Mar 10 with 3045 views | Dyland |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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nft |  |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:06 - Mar 10 with 3024 views | SomethingBlue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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How do you know there is nothing to see? Tell us please. | |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:09 - Mar 10 with 3013 views | Herbivore |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:06 - Mar 10 by SomethingBlue |
How do you know there is nothing to see? Tell us please. |
It's purely because he is Team Boris all the way. No more and no less than that. If he really did work in military intelligence it's bloody terrifying, given that the sole basis of any of his analysis of sources is based on whether he likes someone or agrees with them. | |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:10 - Mar 10 with 3000 views | eireblue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:09 - Mar 10 by Herbivore |
It's purely because he is Team Boris all the way. No more and no less than that. If he really did work in military intelligence it's bloody terrifying, given that the sole basis of any of his analysis of sources is based on whether he likes someone or agrees with them. |
It is a belief system. |  | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:10 - Mar 10 with 3000 views | SomethingBlue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:09 - Mar 10 by Herbivore |
It's purely because he is Team Boris all the way. No more and no less than that. If he really did work in military intelligence it's bloody terrifying, given that the sole basis of any of his analysis of sources is based on whether he likes someone or agrees with them. |
Yep, it's astonishing. | |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:12 - Mar 10 with 2991 views | eireblue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:21 - Mar 10 by footers |
Were you really in military intelligence? |
You know when you sometimes see the phrase “ahhhh bless” used in a popular entertainment show between two characters.
Replace one character with civil servants within the real intelligence services, and the other with someone in a “military intelligence” unit.
You could further extrapolate that example to within a military intelligence unit. | | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:31 - Mar 10 with 2945 views | HARRY10 |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 09:51 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
I get your point.
My point is that it's pointless releasing this report. Anyone can see anything they want. It would be open season with more than likely zero grounds.
If you research into how links are made you would easily see that this is so blatant that it cannot be true.
Here is a good book. 'The Spy and the Traitor'. Fantastic author, Ben MacIntrye.
The first few chapters tell you everything about ties and links.
The real ties are so well hidden and buried they don't come out for many, many years.
There are many more examples.
This is so blatant that it would be foolish or negative propaganda
JC is already calling PP a bully when nothing is proven! If you give someone like him even the most tenuous tie he will knit you a red scarf. |
"My point is that it's pointless releasing this report"
whereas on 16th December 2019 we had
"Boris Johnson has cleared a controversial report into alleged Russian interference in UK politics for publication, Downing Street has announced."
As to your guff about tenuous links, we have
"playing a game of tennis with the wife of one of Vladimir Putin’s ex-ministers in return for a £160,000 donation to the Conservatives."
which even by the standards of your rather bizarre thought processes cannot be deemed tenuous ...............for one game of tennis ? That should ring alarm bells in even the most trusting of souls.
And might it not be better that Johnson sticks to his word (for once) a stop blocking this report so we can all judge for ourselves what is tenuous or not. | | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:41 - Mar 10 with 2926 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 07:50 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
Nothing to see.
It's so easy to 'see' connections in these matters. There are so many wealthy Russians and their connections in the UK that almost anything BJ or the Tories does to raise cash can be 'linked' to the Kremlin.
It may be Putin making it look like there are connections to encourage TWTD forum members ro ask the question.
We don't know.
There is a huge difference between tenuous and direct links.
Standing next to a person who is a 'friend of a friend of the tennis coach who taught Putin' is different to standing next to known terrorists. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 7:52]
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I hope you're right. Otherwise you (and anyone else who slavishly defends this regime) could come out on the wrong side of history and look very, very bad. |  |
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:52 - Mar 10 with 2905 views | Bluesquid |
"Browder argues", "Browder claimed" and of course "secret evidence".
Well it looks like we'll have to take Mr Browder's word for it then.
"Mrs Chernukhin is married to Vladimir Chernukhin, a former deputy finance minister under Mr Putin in the early 2000s, who fell out with the president after being dismissed from his job in charge of a state-run bank." | | | |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 11:22 - Mar 10 with 2867 views | hampstead_blue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 10:31 - Mar 10 by HARRY10 |
"My point is that it's pointless releasing this report"
whereas on 16th December 2019 we had
"Boris Johnson has cleared a controversial report into alleged Russian interference in UK politics for publication, Downing Street has announced."
As to your guff about tenuous links, we have
"playing a game of tennis with the wife of one of Vladimir Putin’s ex-ministers in return for a £160,000 donation to the Conservatives."
which even by the standards of your rather bizarre thought processes cannot be deemed tenuous ...............for one game of tennis ? That should ring alarm bells in even the most trusting of souls.
And might it not be better that Johnson sticks to his word (for once) a stop blocking this report so we can all judge for ourselves what is tenuous or not. |
As to your guff about tenuous links, we have
"playing a game of tennis with the wife of one of Vladimir Putin’s ex-ministers in return for a £160,000 donation to the Conservatives."
and
so we can all judge for ourselves what is tenuous or not.
Sorry but the first point proves mine!
The second point is even more proof of my point.
People believe and comprehend evidence to support their own internal bias. That's behavioural economics.
Belief bias. | |
| Assumption is to make an ass out of you and me.
Those who assume they know you, when they don't are just guessing.
Those who assume and insist they know are daft and in denial.
Those who assume, insist, and deny the truth are plain stupid.
Those who assume, insist, deny the truth and tell YOU they know you (when they don't) have an IQ in the range of 35-49.
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 11:27 - Mar 10 with 2858 views | jeera |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 08:20 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
The context is that it is so easy to create links. Even the most tenuous would be jumped all over.
Like I said, Putin is an experienced intelligence operator. He would have laid links enough for the left to crawl all over.
The report is actually irrelevant. It's about your belief in what has been laid and created by a very active and aggressive intelligence service. |
"He would have laid links enough for the left to crawl all over."
There you go again. Completely incapable of any independent thought at all.
If there's been outside interference of any sort, it's a matter of national interest.
Not everything's some 'left' conspiracy you obsessive. [Post edited 10 Mar 2020 11:30]
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| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 11:30 - Mar 10 with 2851 views | SomethingBlue |
| Johnson's suppressed Russian report on 11:22 - Mar 10 by hampstead_blue |
As to your guff about tenuous links, we have
"playing a game of tennis with the wife of one of Vladimir Putin’s ex-ministers in return for a £160,000 donation to the Conservatives."
and
so we can all judge for ourselves what is tenuous or not.
Sorry but the first point proves mine!
The second point is even more proof of my point.
People believe and comprehend evidence to support their own internal bias. That's behavioural economics.
Belief bias. |
Do you think that last bit might just apply to you? | |
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