| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet 19:48 - Mar 29 with 9646 views | tractordownsouth |
A few leaks today have suggested that Rachel Reeves will become new shadow chancellor, when Keir inevtiably wins. Not too keen on that myself.
Which names do my fellow paid up leftie tree huggers or people who'd be open to voting labour want to see in prominent jobs?
A few I'd put out there are: Dan Jarvis, Yvette Cooper, Stephen Kinnock, Lisa Nandy, Ian Murray, Roseena Allin Khan and Chris Bryant. Would quite like Ed Miliband back in some capacity too as he clearly has some good knowledge, if not the leadership qualities.
Of the current lot, I wouldn't mind having RLB as environment sec. due to her green industrial revolution policy, as Keir has said both her and Nandy will be given roles. Barry Gardiner and Jonathan Ashworth seem fairly sensible and Angela Rayner will rightly be in there when she inevitably becomes deputy leader. I think it's important to keep a few of them around to maintain unity, but there does need to be a big clearout. |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:06 - Apr 5 with 1178 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 19:04 - Apr 5 by BloomBlue |
I thought he sounded good on the Marr show this morning until Marr started to push him about should the Government defer the EU transition period beyond the end of the year and then it sounded like he has shares in Corbyn's fencing company |
Simple answer should have been Yes, continue the transition period for a minimum of 12 months - anyone suggesting ending the transition period on 31st Dec would have completely lost any sense of reality in my opinion... |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:32 - Apr 5 with 1169 views | gazzer1999 |
Who cares, what a ramshackled bunch of losers who were too scared to call Corbyn out. Sir Keir, thats got a nice socialist ring to it, and a millionaire as well should sit well with the champagne socialists. |  | | |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:39 - Apr 5 with 1162 views | jeera |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:32 - Apr 5 by gazzer1999 |
Who cares, what a ramshackled bunch of losers who were too scared to call Corbyn out. Sir Keir, thats got a nice socialist ring to it, and a millionaire as well should sit well with the champagne socialists. |
What a load of pointless, nonsensical, hate-filled shyte. |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:42 - Apr 5 with 1157 views | Darth_Koont |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:32 - Apr 5 by gazzer1999 |
Who cares, what a ramshackled bunch of losers who were too scared to call Corbyn out. Sir Keir, thats got a nice socialist ring to it, and a millionaire as well should sit well with the champagne socialists. |
Your Daily Mail will be placed outside your door, sir.
Do you need a wake-up call? |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 00:38 - Apr 6 with 1130 views | tractordownsouth |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:32 - Apr 5 by gazzer1999 |
Who cares, what a ramshackled bunch of losers who were too scared to call Corbyn out. Sir Keir, thats got a nice socialist ring to it, and a millionaire as well should sit well with the champagne socialists. |
If Alexander Boris De Pfeffle Johnson connected to the public, Keir Starmer, son of a nurse and toolmaker, can do the same.
Funny how those who hate 'identity politics' are falling over themselves to criticise Labour for appointing a white middle-class man | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 08:40 - Apr 6 with 1072 views | Herbivore |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:32 - Apr 5 by gazzer1999 |
Who cares, what a ramshackled bunch of losers who were too scared to call Corbyn out. Sir Keir, thats got a nice socialist ring to it, and a millionaire as well should sit well with the champagne socialists. |
You tit. |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 08:57 - Apr 6 with 1065 views | GeoffSentence |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 11:08 - Mar 30 by Churchman |
So a worldwide pandemic that I thought started in Wuhan, China is largely down to the tories. Wow. |
You should know by now that any global crisis, regardless of where it starts, is the fault of the incumbent UK government. |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:41 - Apr 6 with 1039 views | GeoffSentence |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 17:15 - Apr 5 by tractordownsouth |
Properly pleased with this. My only gripe so far is Rachel Reeves but it's a minor role. |
I am no fan of Angela Raynor. She seems to be one of those urban centric labour types who has no understanding of the problems of rural areas. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:48 - Apr 6 with 1026 views | Herbivore |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:41 - Apr 6 by GeoffSentence |
I am no fan of Angela Raynor. She seems to be one of those urban centric labour types who has no understanding of the problems of rural areas. |
Problem is in most rural areas you could stick a blue rosette on a pile of dung and people would vote for it. Most Labour MPs are representing more urban areas so that naturally tends to be their focus. If we had PR maybe that would change somewhat. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:55 - Apr 6 with 1011 views | tractordownsouth |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:41 - Apr 6 by GeoffSentence |
I am no fan of Angela Raynor. She seems to be one of those urban centric labour types who has no understanding of the problems of rural areas. |
The core problems (low pay, public service underinvestment) are the same everywhere though. Keir will need to open up and connect more to to rural areas and towns but as Herb said, the vast majority of rural constituencies will never vote Labour. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:55 - Apr 6 with 1007 views | tractordownsouth |
Richard Burgon has been sacked!!  | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 11:00 - Apr 6 with 993 views | GeoffSentence |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:55 - Apr 6 by tractordownsouth |
The core problems (low pay, public service underinvestment) are the same everywhere though. Keir will need to open up and connect more to to rural areas and towns but as Herb said, the vast majority of rural constituencies will never vote Labour. |
And rural constituencies suffer for it. Tory governments don't work hard to get their votes because they don't need to, and labour governments don't because they don't have a chance.
If I was a campaigning man, in the absence of PR, I would try to persuade people to vote whichever way would make their constituency more marginal. Regardless of who they supported. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet (n/t) on 11:01 - Apr 6 with 992 views | gazzer1999 |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 08:40 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
You tit. |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:00 - Apr 6 with 940 views | Ryorry |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 10:55 - Apr 6 by tractordownsouth |
The core problems (low pay, public service underinvestment) are the same everywhere though. Keir will need to open up and connect more to to rural areas and towns but as Herb said, the vast majority of rural constituencies will never vote Labour. |
I believe Skipton & Ripon got about 10-12,000 votes for the Lab candidate in 12/19 (iirc) - many of them probably protest votes, but it suggests a possible glimmer of hope (albeit not while Julian Smith is the Con there, with his maj of about 19K). |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:39 - Apr 6 with 914 views | itfcjoe |
More appointments here, new roles for Thornberry and RLB, seems a very broad spectrum in shadow cabinet both in terms of political leanings and diversity
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:42 - Apr 6 with 903 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:39 - Apr 6 by itfcjoe |
More appointments here, new roles for Thornberry and RLB, seems a very broad spectrum in shadow cabinet both in terms of political leanings and diversity
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It looks a lot more grown up than under Corbyn. The only Corbynite left is RLB and I'm not sure even she knew whether she was a true believer or not.
Glad to see Shami out. He credibility has fallen massively. [Post edited 6 Apr 2020 14:44]
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:57 - Apr 6 with 872 views | SpruceMoose |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 23:39 - Apr 5 by jeera |
What a load of pointless, nonsensical, hate-filled shyte. |
Par for the course for dear old Gazza and his winter temperature in Siberia level IQ. |  |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:58 - Apr 6 with 869 views | Darth_Koont |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:39 - Apr 6 by itfcjoe |
More appointments here, new roles for Thornberry and RLB, seems a very broad spectrum in shadow cabinet both in terms of political leanings and diversity
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But not that different from Corbyn's shadow cabinets either. Labour opposition needs to come across the spectrum and isn't the domain of the left or right of the party.
People bang on about Momentum but the real factionalism was driven by Labour First and Progress who tried to torpedo a broad church from the beginning. They just wanted Corbyn out. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 15:30 - Apr 6 with 819 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:58 - Apr 6 by Darth_Koont |
But not that different from Corbyn's shadow cabinets either. Labour opposition needs to come across the spectrum and isn't the domain of the left or right of the party.
People bang on about Momentum but the real factionalism was driven by Labour First and Progress who tried to torpedo a broad church from the beginning. They just wanted Corbyn out. |
No Dawn Butler, Richard Burgon, Shami Charabarti, Barry Gardiner, Ian Lavery , Jon Trickit, John McDonell.
All Corbyn loyalists. And toxic Seamus Milne no longer running comms. [Post edited 6 Apr 2020 15:40]
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 15:35 - Apr 6 with 811 views | itfcjoe |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:58 - Apr 6 by Darth_Koont |
But not that different from Corbyn's shadow cabinets either. Labour opposition needs to come across the spectrum and isn't the domain of the left or right of the party.
People bang on about Momentum but the real factionalism was driven by Labour First and Progress who tried to torpedo a broad church from the beginning. They just wanted Corbyn out. |
Corbyn seemed to put a shadow cabinet together that did not dare challenge either him or McDonnell | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 16:26 - Apr 6 with 774 views | tractordownsouth |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:39 - Apr 6 by itfcjoe |
More appointments here, new roles for Thornberry and RLB, seems a very broad spectrum in shadow cabinet both in terms of political leanings and diversity
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Really happy with this, he's kept the competent Corbynites and given voices to those who didn't have one over the past 4 years. Shame there's no Dan Jarvis, Yvette Cooper or Chris Bryant but if you'd offered me this line up the day after the General Election, I'd have snapped you hand off for it. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 16:29 - Apr 6 with 768 views | tractordownsouth |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 14:00 - Apr 6 by Ryorry |
I believe Skipton & Ripon got about 10-12,000 votes for the Lab candidate in 12/19 (iirc) - many of them probably protest votes, but it suggests a possible glimmer of hope (albeit not while Julian Smith is the Con there, with his maj of about 19K). |
Smith is one of the few decent ones left in the PCP. Just looked at his constituency though, it'd take a 20% swing to beat him next time, which is virtually impossible. | |
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| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 16:45 - Apr 6 with 756 views | Darth_Koont |
| Keir Starmer shadow cabinet on 15:35 - Apr 6 by itfcjoe |
Corbyn seemed to put a shadow cabinet together that did not dare challenge either him or McDonnell |
How do you work that out?
Take a look at his first shadow cabinets. He was only going for supposed Corbynites when the others had resigned. | |
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