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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... 15:57 - Jun 1 with 5216 viewsmonytowbray

...which I expect most of you do, you are antiFA.

Or now, as Donald Trump will call you, a terrorist.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:01 - Jun 1 with 1815 viewsDarth_Koont

First they came for the socialists ...

He really is a callous, hateful and reprehensible excuse for a human being.
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:09 - Jun 1 with 1766 viewsSpruceMoose

Designating Antifa a terrorist organisation is as laughable as designating Feminism a terrorist organisation.

It displays a massive gammon-coloured misunderstanding (probably a willful misunderstanding to be fair) of what Antifa is.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:09 - Jun 1 with 1773 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:01 - Jun 1 by Darth_Koont

First they came for the socialists ...

He really is a callous, hateful and reprehensible excuse for a human being.


Come on, I know he winds a few up but Callis is a nice guy underneath it all.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:10 - Jun 1 with 1756 viewsGlasgowBlue

You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa

Next you'll be saying that if you condemn the Democratic People's Republic of Korea then you are opposing democracy.

Edit. Better put in the usual disclaimer that Trump is a c'nt etc etc.
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"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:11 - Jun 1 with 1753 viewsmonytowbray

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:09 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

Come on, I know he winds a few up but Callis is a nice guy underneath it all.


I only tolerate tolerance. Otherwise I'm a total prick.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:12 - Jun 1 with 1733 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:10 - Jun 1 by GlasgowBlue

You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa

Next you'll be saying that if you condemn the Democratic People's Republic of Korea then you are opposing democracy.

Edit. Better put in the usual disclaimer that Trump is a c'nt etc etc.
[Post edited 1 Jun 16:12]


Good lord.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:13 - Jun 1 with 1726 viewsLankHenners

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:09 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Designating Antifa a terrorist organisation is as laughable as designating Feminism a terrorist organisation.

It displays a massive gammon-coloured misunderstanding (probably a willful misunderstanding to be fair) of what Antifa is.


It is laughable but the trouble with it is that, due to the very loose nature of 'Antifa', anyone could be accused of being part of it which could put them in danger if some MAGA guys try to carry out vigilante justice on someone their president is saying is a terrorist.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:16 - Jun 1 with 1697 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:13 - Jun 1 by LankHenners

It is laughable but the trouble with it is that, due to the very loose nature of 'Antifa', anyone could be accused of being part of it which could put them in danger if some MAGA guys try to carry out vigilante justice on someone their president is saying is a terrorist.


Indeed. Although, I would say that's the real reason for doing this.

Pretty fascist behaviour, wouldn't you say? If only there was some kind of movement or philosophy set up to oppose fascism using a wide ranging variety of tactic, ideas and beliefs. Primarily it would be needed because the state either won't tackle fascists, or the state is actively encouraging fascism. They could call it NeverNazis or something.

And before the 'There's No Fascism Nowadays!' gang turn up, I'm working from Eco's definition of fascism. I could provide a Tweet from President Don that meets each of his fourteen requirements.
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:17 - Jun 1 with 1703 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:10 - Jun 1 by GlasgowBlue

You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa

Next you'll be saying that if you condemn the Democratic People's Republic of Korea then you are opposing democracy.

Edit. Better put in the usual disclaimer that Trump is a c'nt etc etc.
[Post edited 1 Jun 16:12]


"You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa"

Which isn't what Trump has done is it?

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:17 - Jun 1 with 1689 viewsKeno

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:09 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Designating Antifa a terrorist organisation is as laughable as designating Feminism a terrorist organisation.

It displays a massive gammon-coloured misunderstanding (probably a willful misunderstanding to be fair) of what Antifa is.


to be fair most women scare the hell out oi me

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 with 1678 viewsmonytowbray

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:17 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

"You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa"

Which isn't what Trump has done is it?


Boomers gonna boom man.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 with 1673 viewsGlasgowBlue

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:17 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

"You do understand that you can be antifascist and still condemn the thuggish and violent behaviour of Antifa"

Which isn't what Trump has done is it?


I was addressing the op who said that if you are antifascist then you are antiFA.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 with 1668 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:17 - Jun 1 by Keno

to be fair most women scare the hell out oi me


How much do you pay for that?!

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:19 - Jun 1 with 1664 viewsmonytowbray

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 by GlasgowBlue

I was addressing the op who said that if you are antifascist then you are antiFA.



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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:21 - Jun 1 with 1638 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 by GlasgowBlue

I was addressing the op who said that if you are antifascist then you are antiFA.


You'll have to educate me then. What is antiFA? Is it anymore than an informal group of people who label themselves as Anti fascist?

(Genuine quesiton - as I've never got involved / come across them in real life)

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:23 - Jun 1 with 1621 viewsKeno

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:18 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

How much do you pay for that?!


my friends had a whip round

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:23 - Jun 1 with 1617 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:21 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

You'll have to educate me then. What is antiFA? Is it anymore than an informal group of people who label themselves as Anti fascist?

(Genuine quesiton - as I've never got involved / come across them in real life)


*Grabs popcorn and hovers dabber expectantly over the middle class white boys bingo card*

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:24 - Jun 1 with 1607 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:23 - Jun 1 by Keno

my friends had a whip round


Sounds like it's all round to Keno's for a party :-)

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:26 - Jun 1 with 1581 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:23 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

*Grabs popcorn and hovers dabber expectantly over the middle class white boys bingo card*


I'm genuinely at a loss on this one tbh. Just reading the wikipedia page and there doesn't seem to any structure at all. How can anyone ban an organisation that doesn't exist formally? It's like trying to ban an idea...

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:30 - Jun 1 with 1558 viewsLankHenners

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:21 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

You'll have to educate me then. What is antiFA? Is it anymore than an informal group of people who label themselves as Anti fascist?

(Genuine quesiton - as I've never got involved / come across them in real life)


Basically.

It's an autonomous activist movement comprised of people with left-wing politics who generally champion direct action over things like signing petitions but can involve peaceful protests, marches etc.

Because of its autonomous nature, anyone can claim to be a part of it, and so it can't really be defined as a 'group' as such, and therefore a small group of people can't represent the entire movement. People may not say they're part of 'Antifa' but can disingenuously be labelled as such if they're doing something that would generally be looked down upon.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:31 - Jun 1 with 1542 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:26 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

I'm genuinely at a loss on this one tbh. Just reading the wikipedia page and there doesn't seem to any structure at all. How can anyone ban an organisation that doesn't exist formally? It's like trying to ban an idea...


Which is exactly what I've been saying for the last few days while Gibbers gets more and more frothy about his phantom middle class white boys who are supposedly masterminding the whole affair.

Like I said, Antifa is a broad collection of tactics, ideas and believes that many different people get behind. And yes, some people have motivations that are more murky than most.

But to pigheadedly dismiss it as purely a middle class white thing that comes from a place of affluence is monumentally stupid at best and just damn sneaky and disingenuous at worst.
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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:32 - Jun 1 with 1533 viewslowhouseblue

surely being a terrorist relates to what you do, not who you are or just what you oppose. that's probably too subtle for the trumps of the world.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:34 - Jun 1 with 1519 viewsfooters

Funny that we're all focused on a handful of white antifa rather than police brutality and the deep-rooted disenfranchisement of millions of BAME Americans.

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:34 - Jun 1 with 1510 viewsbluelagos

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:31 - Jun 1 by SpruceMoose

Which is exactly what I've been saying for the last few days while Gibbers gets more and more frothy about his phantom middle class white boys who are supposedly masterminding the whole affair.

Like I said, Antifa is a broad collection of tactics, ideas and believes that many different people get behind. And yes, some people have motivations that are more murky than most.

But to pigheadedly dismiss it as purely a middle class white thing that comes from a place of affluence is monumentally stupid at best and just damn sneaky and disingenuous at worst.
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I'm less worried about Glassers (not meaning to be rude Glassers) rather how can Trump proscribe/ban an organisation as Terrorist if it doesn't actually exist?

Is it just grandstanding from DT?

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This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:37 - Jun 1 with 1471 viewsSpruceMoose

This may blow your mind but if you oppose fascism... on 16:34 - Jun 1 by bluelagos

I'm less worried about Glassers (not meaning to be rude Glassers) rather how can Trump proscribe/ban an organisation as Terrorist if it doesn't actually exist?

Is it just grandstanding from DT?


Because he's Trump and it'll lodge in the pea brains of his cult members whether he can make it stick or not.

It's a win win.

If he can make it a reality then he can accuse whoever he likes of being a terrorist and go after them.

If he can't make it a reality then his supporters will still think he did it anyway.

It's no different to him building his wall.
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