| Cancel culture 08:25 - Jul 8 with 20152 views | hampstead_blue |
Interesting and good that people with a voice are standing up to this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53330105
A lawyer on Today even floated the idea of cancelling ALL historical statues, paintings, and physical memorials because 'standards change and people whom today seem great may be hiding dark secrets'
Bonkers.
Am all for free speech. Owen Jones and his cabal can scream "offence" until their lungs turn inside out. Makes my blood boil if you hadn't guessed. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 17:02 - Jul 9 with 539 views | footers |
| Cancel culture on 17:00 - Jul 9 by jeera |
Don't they still make you go out in the garden? |
I was just thinking about this... Peeing outside is only really fun if you've got a willy. So how about we have a 'Cis and trans people with willies outside toilet'? Writing your name on the wall encouraged and daily prizes to be won for height, length/consistency of gush, inventiveness and so on. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 17:06 - Jul 9 with 531 views | WeWereZombies |
| Cancel culture on 14:08 - Jul 9 by Libero |
Ryorry, social media isn't an honest barometer of public opinion, they are quite literally designed to be an echo-chamber of sorts.
On top of this there things such as bots that have been paid to like a post X amount of times, as well as your regular people who have multiple accounts and those that mindlessly scroll and like or retweet things without too much thought.
Engagement can be quite easily manufactured/manipulated/exaggerated.
I'm probably explaining it very badly but it's not my area of professional expertise. [Post edited 9 Jul 2020 14:11]
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I don't think you have explained that badly at all, it sounds like a very similar theme to the one Tim Berners-Lee explained in his Reith Lecture last year when appealing for a reset of World Wide Web. And that was before many of the scandals arising from Facebook and Twitter fully surfaced. Goodness knows what corruption hides in Tik Tok and other less investigated platforms. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 17:08 - Jul 9 with 523 views | Libero |
| Cancel culture on 17:06 - Jul 9 by WeWereZombies |
I don't think you have explained that badly at all, it sounds like a very similar theme to the one Tim Berners-Lee explained in his Reith Lecture last year when appealing for a reset of World Wide Web. And that was before many of the scandals arising from Facebook and Twitter fully surfaced. Goodness knows what corruption hides in Tik Tok and other less investigated platforms. |
Cheers mate, appreciate your kind words. |  | | |
| Cancel culture on 20:33 - Jul 9 with 424 views | LittleBoyBlue |
| Cancel culture on 16:54 - Jul 9 by Herbivore |
I think there are maybe separate issues here. Gender stereotyping seems to me to be somewhat different to sexism. Of course there is some overlap too, but sexism for me includes things like unequal pay, lack of representation in positions of power, and so on. Those things disproportionately affect women. |
They're not really seperate issues. It's the stereotypical that is endemic and leads people into becoming more sexist. Sexual discrimination is what you are talking about and yes it is a problem still, has been for thousands of years, going back and forth between each gender being discriminated against, the problem really became worse in the 18th century just after the industrial revolution, when the male archetype became more dominant again and women, men too, have been trying to reverse it since then.
Society itself despite being described as a patriarchy, which in a way it is currently, is still and has been based on the matriarchal archetype for well over 10,000 years. The way justice works, the fact that people rarely move around, etc. These are all parts of female ideals and their psychology, male ideals and psychology tends more to a roaming existence and quick retribution over justice.
Honestly, it's a fascinating subject if you can avoid the feminist and misogynist arguments trying to be the victim and overwriting facts to suit their own agendas, just focus on the actual history, but I have digressed.
As for things like equal pay, yes I totally agree, it should be equal, men should be allowed an equal amount of time off and consideration if they are a parent, so they are on equal footing with women, and women should be paid just the same as men, or the other way round, men get paid the same as women, and women are given less time off as a result to equal it out. The problem is business will either lose out money wise, or both genders will have to sacrifice a benefit they currently have that the other doesn't, and have you ever heard of a business doing that or either gender willing to sacrifice something they see as an essential right.
I believe in a better society, unfortunately I don't see it happening for many hundreds of years as there is still too much frustration, anger in both parties to overcome it in a few generations. The thing that people seem to forget is the progress that has been made already, they just want instant changes, which would be far too disruptive. Take kids for example, 100 years ago most boys aged 14 would already be working 60 hour weeks and most girls would be trained how to run the home. Now more girls attend university and work than ever before and more boys are learning to manage the home life. Steady progress towards an ideal is better than instant changes that can potentially destroy the awkward balance we currently have.
One day though, we will get there, that is my belief. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 20:46 - Jul 9 with 411 views | jaseitfc2015 |
| Cancel culture on 22:12 - Jul 8 by Herbivore |
That's not a very liberal attitude. |
I wrote something very simple, which anybody could follow except for a faux liberal like yourself.
I'm sure momentum will be happy to have you | | | |
| Cancel culture on 20:47 - Jul 9 with 408 views | Herbivore |
| Cancel culture on 20:46 - Jul 9 by jaseitfc2015 |
I wrote something very simple, which anybody could follow except for a faux liberal like yourself.
I'm sure momentum will be happy to have you |
I'm more of a progressive than a liberal, but your first post was patently nonsense. I'm also not a member of Momentum and nor would I want to be. Erroneous claims seem to be your thing. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 20:59 - Jul 9 with 402 views | footers |
| Cancel culture on 20:46 - Jul 9 by jaseitfc2015 |
I wrote something very simple, which anybody could follow except for a faux liberal like yourself.
I'm sure momentum will be happy to have you |
You only seem to understand the term 'liberal' in a lazy, American sense. | |
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| Cancel culture on 21:04 - Jul 9 with 394 views | Herbivore |
| Cancel culture on 20:59 - Jul 9 by footers |
You only seem to understand the term 'liberal' in a lazy, American sense. |
He also seems to think that being liberal extends to being tolerant and accepting of all views, no matter how bigoted. | |
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| Cancel culture on 21:32 - Jul 9 with 375 views | SpruceMoose |
| Cancel culture on 21:04 - Jul 9 by Herbivore |
He also seems to think that being liberal extends to being tolerant and accepting of all views, no matter how bigoted. |
Well, to clarify, it's not. That's what they call being a cretin. |  |
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| Cancel culture on 22:08 - Jul 9 with 334 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Cancel culture on 14:26 - Jul 9 by Herbivore |
That's why lots of places are starting to offer gender neutral toilets, which wherever I've seen them used work perfectly well. |
There are loads of places with unisex toilets out there in the big wide wolrd. We're too prudish as a nation in the main. When you go on field trips or trekking/exploring far flung places it's very rare to find single sex bogs. It is one possible solution to all of this nonsence. Give people privacy with cubicles, but make them unisex.
It's somthing I've never thought about until recently, but I saw a tweet the other day from a trans activist and she was amazed, as a woman, there was push back against her using women's loos. She was post op, but even someone pre-op isn't going to be a perv looking to get a sneaky peak in the women's. You don't go through the trauma and hassle of gender reassignment if you're a perv.
If there's an issue with men using this as an escuse to access women's spaces, that's a completely seperate problem that should be tackled without alienating men who feel female and are in the process of physically transitioning inot a woman.
The trans woman I saw the tweet from was indistinguishable from a someone born with female bits (for want of a better phrae!). Sh*t hot actually, an absolutely gorgeous woman and not at all like the Terry Jones Monty Python cross dressing stereotype (that I still think a lot of people cling to). I wish I could find the link now, as you'd never believe she started out life as a man. It's a whole different workd today, and who are we to judge or deny? |  |
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