| Lambert interview in the EADT on 12:44 - Sep 10 with 3575 views | catch74 |
Not sure how I missed this, apologies for the duplicate. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:09 - Sep 10 with 3537 views | Herbivore |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 11:49 - Sep 10 by BrixtonBlue |
We'll see if they're just words. He clearly has some knowledge or he wouldn't be able to talk with authority like that. It reads as more than just words to appease fans.
Let's be honest, whatever he said in that interview you'd criticise it.
Maybe I'm just more of an optimist.
If Lambert had 'just let Jackson go' what would he have used to buy a replacement? Jackson was what, just shy of £2m? If Lambert had let him go, by not renewing his contract, do you think Evans would have happily handed over another £2m for him to get a striker more suited to the central role?
You play the hand that's dealt to you, and hang onto anything half decent in a better the devil you know way. It doesn't mean it's the ideal hand you want.
None of this absolves Lambert from blame for last season. That's a different point. |
I'm not criticising what he's said, I'm simply saying it doesn't really matter what he says. What matters is that he massively ups his game from 2 years of dross and gets us playing well and competing for promotion. If he can do that then great, but I'm not going to give him credit for simply saying he's going to do a better job. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:23 - Sep 10 with 3517 views | El_Fenix |
In a worst-case scenario, this could be an example of "The beatings will continue until morale improves ..."
However - if lessons have been learned, improvements will result. My residual concerns are that Lambert is not good at making mid-season adjustments and is worse at making mid-game adjustments. But perhaps that will change too ...
Lets travel hopefully.
COYB! [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 13:24]
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:27 - Sep 10 with 3503 views | gordon |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:23 - Sep 10 by El_Fenix |
In a worst-case scenario, this could be an example of "The beatings will continue until morale improves ..."
However - if lessons have been learned, improvements will result. My residual concerns are that Lambert is not good at making mid-season adjustments and is worse at making mid-game adjustments. But perhaps that will change too ...
Lets travel hopefully.
COYB! [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 13:24]
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Yes, my biggest concern about Lambert is that when things go right he doesn't know why they go right, and when things go wrong, he doesn't know why they go wrong. |  | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:43 - Sep 10 with 3481 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 11:56 - Sep 10 by BrixtonBlue |
Well he hasn't been sacked and isn't ignoring the mistakes, so I guess that puts Lambert heading towards 'average' at the moment? |
If you want to choose that rating that's entirely your choice..
So you're supportive of an, at very best, average manager who had one of the highest budgets in the division & failed not only to get auto spots but actually miss out, by some margin, the play-offs, but it's ok because brought some fans a pint and gave a nice interview saying he's learned from the mistakes that most people who watch football noted and commented on after a few games.
So what do you think a realistic finishing positioning is for an average manager in League 1 this season? |  | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:58 - Sep 10 with 3457 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 11:08 - Sep 10 by PassionNotAnger |
All managers make mistakes
A terrible manager doesn't acknowledge he made them until they're sacked
A bad manager will blame others for them and ignore it
An average manager might reflect at the end of a season and put it right next season
A good manager might realise his mistakes during a season and take appropriate action to try and recover the season
A great manager looks for mistakes after every game and learns/corrects for the next match
Interesting to see how many different views there are of where Lambert might sit on that scale |
It's not down to the manager here though - he should have been sacked by Evans which would have made him a terrible manager as wasn't acknowledgin them
At best he becomes an average manager, that's what we all hope for and then kicks on from there |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:22 - Sep 10 with 3411 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:43 - Sep 10 by PassionNotAnger |
If you want to choose that rating that's entirely your choice..
So you're supportive of an, at very best, average manager who had one of the highest budgets in the division & failed not only to get auto spots but actually miss out, by some margin, the play-offs, but it's ok because brought some fans a pint and gave a nice interview saying he's learned from the mistakes that most people who watch football noted and commented on after a few games.
So what do you think a realistic finishing positioning is for an average manager in League 1 this season? |
Just a downvote then, take it that means for once you haven’t got an argument?? | | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:27 - Sep 10 with 3405 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:22 - Sep 10 by PassionNotAnger |
Just a downvote then, take it that means for once you haven’t got an argument?? |
No, I'm just not interested in engaging with you. You're the one looking for an argument. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:32 - Sep 10 with 3400 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:27 - Sep 10 by BrixtonBlue |
No, I'm just not interested in engaging with you. You're the one looking for an argument. |
Oh ok, just find it odd that you rate the manager as average but don’t like anyone else criticising him. | | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:36 - Sep 10 with 3390 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 14:32 - Sep 10 by PassionNotAnger |
Oh ok, just find it odd that you rate the manager as average but don’t like anyone else criticising him. |
I haven't got a problem with anyone criticising the manager. | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:10 - Sep 10 with 3364 views | longtimefan |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:43 - Sep 10 by PassionNotAnger |
If you want to choose that rating that's entirely your choice..
So you're supportive of an, at very best, average manager who had one of the highest budgets in the division & failed not only to get auto spots but actually miss out, by some margin, the play-offs, but it's ok because brought some fans a pint and gave a nice interview saying he's learned from the mistakes that most people who watch football noted and commented on after a few games.
So what do you think a realistic finishing positioning is for an average manager in League 1 this season? |
“ but it's ok because brought some fans a pint and gave a nice interview saying he's learned from the mistakes that most people who watch football noted and commented on after a few games”
Is your username reversed? That’s sounding a lot more like anger than passion  | | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:15 - Sep 10 with 3360 views | Sparky85 |
He clearly knows this is the year. Succeed or out!
I personally don't mind his approach here. Too many have had it too easy for too long.
But, he HAS to follow through with his statements, especially when it comes to certain players.
Massive year! | | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:16 - Sep 10 with 3360 views | BlueBadger |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 09:39 - Sep 10 by Fixed_It |
So basically the 'player unrest' that has been mentioned is mainly them being taken out of their comfort zone. When you look at our performances and finishing position last season, and the promising signs from some of our pre-season performances, that can't be such a bad thing, can it? And if certain players can't hack it, or don't fancy the challenge, I'm not sure they are what we need right now. |
Ah yes. The approach that worked so well for Hurst and Keane. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:33 - Sep 10 with 3335 views | Fixed_It |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 13:27 - Sep 10 by gordon |
Yes, my biggest concern about Lambert is that when things go right he doesn't know why they go right, and when things go wrong, he doesn't know why they go wrong. |
It's just a hunch, but I reckon Paul Lambert probably knows a lot more about the game than most people who post on here.
That isn't to say that he doesn't make mistakes, because he clearly does, but... |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:38 - Sep 10 with 3324 views | Herbivore |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:33 - Sep 10 by Fixed_It |
It's just a hunch, but I reckon Paul Lambert probably knows a lot more about the game than most people who post on here.
That isn't to say that he doesn't make mistakes, because he clearly does, but... |
He played for Dortmund you know. | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:40 - Sep 10 with 3325 views | JammyDodgerrr |
The comments about the 4-3-3 plan going out of the window are so interesting, it's rare to see a manager talk about it like that. Purely based on Norwood and Jackson's form and then if he has decided that he wants to play that way it's no wonder Jackson wants to leave. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:23 - Sep 10 with 3260 views | Hullblue |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:33 - Sep 10 by Fixed_It |
It's just a hunch, but I reckon Paul Lambert probably knows a lot more about the game than most people who post on here.
That isn't to say that he doesn't make mistakes, because he clearly does, but... |
Of course he does but that doesn’t make him wise.
He said he abandoned our 433 and patient passing football last season because Norwood and Jackson had a good pre-season. That’s abandoning an entire club’s supposed footballing philosophy for two players who weren’t ultimately good or lucky enough to get us anywhere near promotion.
If we’d have stuck with the philosophy but finished 11th at least he’d have a bit more credit in the bank, we’d have learned some lessons about patterns of play or whatever, and Dozzell would presumably have had a lot more game time and be worth a lot more.
As it is, last season was a complete waste. All because although he knows a lot more about football than we do, he lacks the wisdom to stick to his convictions. Now it sounds like Evans has forced him to revert, let’s see how it goes. |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:33 - Sep 10 with 3238 views | Herbivore |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:23 - Sep 10 by Hullblue |
Of course he does but that doesn’t make him wise.
He said he abandoned our 433 and patient passing football last season because Norwood and Jackson had a good pre-season. That’s abandoning an entire club’s supposed footballing philosophy for two players who weren’t ultimately good or lucky enough to get us anywhere near promotion.
If we’d have stuck with the philosophy but finished 11th at least he’d have a bit more credit in the bank, we’d have learned some lessons about patterns of play or whatever, and Dozzell would presumably have had a lot more game time and be worth a lot more.
As it is, last season was a complete waste. All because although he knows a lot more about football than we do, he lacks the wisdom to stick to his convictions. Now it sounds like Evans has forced him to revert, let’s see how it goes. |
Norwood also missed a big chunk of games through injury and we still didn't play his preferred 4-3-3. You have to wonder exactly what he was doing for the entirety of last season. He turned his back on his preferred system, tinkered constantly, and failed to develop or build anything. A complete waste of a season. He's incredibly lucky he's still in a job. | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:47 - Sep 10 with 3223 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:23 - Sep 10 by Hullblue |
Of course he does but that doesn’t make him wise.
He said he abandoned our 433 and patient passing football last season because Norwood and Jackson had a good pre-season. That’s abandoning an entire club’s supposed footballing philosophy for two players who weren’t ultimately good or lucky enough to get us anywhere near promotion.
If we’d have stuck with the philosophy but finished 11th at least he’d have a bit more credit in the bank, we’d have learned some lessons about patterns of play or whatever, and Dozzell would presumably have had a lot more game time and be worth a lot more.
As it is, last season was a complete waste. All because although he knows a lot more about football than we do, he lacks the wisdom to stick to his convictions. Now it sounds like Evans has forced him to revert, let’s see how it goes. |
It reminds me of Jewell's 'long term plan' where he signed Sonko, Ingimarsson, Bowyer, Ellington and Bullard, and then short term loan deals for Collins, Andrews etc.
And he subsequently admitted that he just got it totally wrong and thought he could do it on the short term and was given another chance to sort it out.
Hopefully Lambert proves more successful second time round, but Evans allowing a manager who totally failed in their remit a second chance to do so is crazy - hopefully it goes better this time round.
Like then, a big chunk of the fan base were saying what he was doing wrong and were subsequently proved to be correct | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 17:35 - Sep 10 with 3176 views | BlueBadger |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:33 - Sep 10 by Fixed_It |
It's just a hunch, but I reckon Paul Lambert probably knows a lot more about the game than most people who post on here.
That isn't to say that he doesn't make mistakes, because he clearly does, but... |
All of which makes it doubly concerning that he had to be told by his senior players and clueless owner to stop mucking about with Lambingo. | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 17:47 - Sep 10 with 3152 views | J2BLUE |
Very strange not to give Jackson a chance in a non central front three role. I wouldn't mind selling him if we can use the money to bring in a CB and replacement striker. Probably have to be loans but that isn't a massive issue.
I'm pleased it looks like Sears will be a starter every week though. I think he's our key man and the player I would be most gutted to lose (yes, including Downes). |  |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 18:12 - Sep 10 with 3118 views | gordon |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 15:15 - Sep 10 by Sparky85 |
He clearly knows this is the year. Succeed or out!
I personally don't mind his approach here. Too many have had it too easy for too long.
But, he HAS to follow through with his statements, especially when it comes to certain players.
Massive year! |
Yes, El Mizouni and McGavin have been coasting for years, about time someone stood up to them. | | | |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 18:18 - Sep 10 with 3113 views | Hullblue |
| Lambert interview in the EADT on 16:47 - Sep 10 by itfcjoe |
It reminds me of Jewell's 'long term plan' where he signed Sonko, Ingimarsson, Bowyer, Ellington and Bullard, and then short term loan deals for Collins, Andrews etc.
And he subsequently admitted that he just got it totally wrong and thought he could do it on the short term and was given another chance to sort it out.
Hopefully Lambert proves more successful second time round, but Evans allowing a manager who totally failed in their remit a second chance to do so is crazy - hopefully it goes better this time round.
Like then, a big chunk of the fan base were saying what he was doing wrong and were subsequently proved to be correct |
Well that’s the thing - most fans would say attractive passing football and trust in the young players is the way to develop a club. And hopefully most of us know that we couldn’t actually walk into ITFC and implement it ourselves.
But after 13 years of ME, we’ve finally got a manager who sounds like he’s going to commit to it. Not because he wants to, but because the owner is forcing him to.
In the meantime clubs like Southampton and Swansea devised a plan, achieved everything Evans wanted to achieve, THEN got bored of it and messed it up to varying degrees. That’s how long it’s been.
So when fans question what’s happening and people say ‘Oh you don’t know as much as the manager’, it kind of misses the point. Of course PL knows more than me - I never even got close to playing or managing professionally - but I’ve been sat here thinking about this philosophy for over a decade now and watched other clubs succeed with it too. Can we give that a go? | |
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 18:21 - Sep 10 with 3101 views | Trequartista |
"Some react positively to criticism and pressure, some don’t like it."
2019/20
Q "A lot of people have looked at this squad and said it was one of the best in the division"
A "Have you been drinking?"
Yes, some don't like it that's for sure. [Post edited 10 Sep 2020 18:21]
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| Lambert interview in the EADT on 19:24 - Sep 10 with 3034 views | Jermynblue |
Playing a system in which Jackson is not going to feature is a risk when you consider the number of goals and assists he got last season. You need the rest of the team to compensate for that, which they might well do.If Sears plays most games you would expect him to get a fair number of goals and assists. I suspect the reason that Lambert does not see Jackson as one of the wider front players is that Lambert has been working on movement and set patterns in training and perhaps this is where Jackson struggles with his control. However, despite his weaknesses and not always playing in his preferred system last season, Jackson was effective with his goals and assists. It's a tricky balance, but just feel uneasy at this stage that Jackson is likely to get little game time. It is brave of any club that says to a player than contributed the most goals and assists last season that they really have very little chance of playing next season when no one has been signed that is better. It might be an inspired decision, but it's a risk. | | | |
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