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Schools are safe - part 276547 20:08 - Sep 12 with 1362 viewsElderGrizzly

On Monday this week, 30 schools reported Covid19 cases.

By Friday it was 620


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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:10 - Sep 12 with 1324 viewsFixed_It

Nobody saw that coming, did they?!

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 with 1281 viewsleftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:28 - Sep 12 with 1256 viewsjeera

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 by leftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed


It's been a few bloody days.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:38 - Sep 12 with 1242 viewsMullet

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 by leftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed


Your last statement isn't true.

I know of one with confirmed cases which is open with no one but individuals isolating, another with two whole year groups isolating and the rest of the school (and staff in).

Another prominent case was reported up here despite all of the steps they took https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/school-covi

They did not close but made students affected isolate.

Anecdotally I've seen teachers on various groups report all sorts of stories (how verifiable they are is questionable, but you'd assume most people on a teaching group would be teachers given they are generally private). Some Headteachers, some local authorities and some parents/members of the public are playing dangerous games already.

Whether that's ignorance, selfishness or fear is questionable.

Schools should be as safe as possible and many will be, the government simply stating "schools are safe" is false and dangerous. It's impossible to ascertain that and given there have been cases clearly another example of them saying what they want to convey and insisting people believe it.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:14 - Sep 12 with 1159 viewsgordon

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 by leftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed


Do you remember when we learned about exponential growth in February, March and April? Go over your notes.
[Post edited 12 Sep 2020 21:22]
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:14 - Sep 12 with 1156 viewsjaseitfc2015

& the alternative is....
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:21 - Sep 12 with 1119 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:14 - Sep 12 by jaseitfc2015

& the alternative is....


Corbyn....free internet for all and remote learning....but the money tree!!!!

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:22 - Sep 12 with 1107 viewsjaseitfc2015

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:21 - Sep 12 by BanksterDebtSlave

Corbyn....free internet for all and remote learning....but the money tree!!!!


Works great for 3 year olds that
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:22 - Sep 12 with 1109 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:14 - Sep 12 by gordon

Do you remember when we learned about exponential growth in February, March and April? Go over your notes.
[Post edited 12 Sep 2020 21:22]


Indeed. How long does it take for symptoms to show.

Most (if not all) of the cases showing up in schools will be students who already had it before mixing with their bubble (as many as 250 students or more in some schools). Bearing in mind that the teachers cross those bubble, the bubbles mix on public transport and in homes where students from multiple schools are in the same home, there really is no effective bubble at all. Add to that the socialising that is happening too.

Most schools only intend to send a bubble home (not close entirely) if there is a confirmed case. The continued spread from asymptomatic cases, before symptoms develop and before tests show that the individual is positive means it is inevitable there is going to be a rapid increase in cases spread via the younger age groups and staff in schools. If the Nightingales are not in use with the second wave we will have been fortunate.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:24 - Sep 12 with 1090 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:22 - Sep 12 by jaseitfc2015

Works great for 3 year olds that


Oh well in that case decent wages and one parent, preferably you, at home.....next!

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:25 - Sep 12 with 1084 viewsjaseitfc2015

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:24 - Sep 12 by BanksterDebtSlave

Oh well in that case decent wages and one parent, preferably you, at home.....next!


single parents, what do they do?
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:25 - Sep 12 with 1076 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:22 - Sep 12 by Nthsuffolkblue

Indeed. How long does it take for symptoms to show.

Most (if not all) of the cases showing up in schools will be students who already had it before mixing with their bubble (as many as 250 students or more in some schools). Bearing in mind that the teachers cross those bubble, the bubbles mix on public transport and in homes where students from multiple schools are in the same home, there really is no effective bubble at all. Add to that the socialising that is happening too.

Most schools only intend to send a bubble home (not close entirely) if there is a confirmed case. The continued spread from asymptomatic cases, before symptoms develop and before tests show that the individual is positive means it is inevitable there is going to be a rapid increase in cases spread via the younger age groups and staff in schools. If the Nightingales are not in use with the second wave we will have been fortunate.


Shhh!!

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:27 - Sep 12 with 1068 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 by leftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed


Aside from the fact your last statement is wrong, so is your first.

There are 32150 schools without any students known to have tested positive for Covid. That is not the same as without a student infected either symptomatically or asymptomatically. Where I teach there are plenty being tested and we are one of the 32150 you suggest are unaffected.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:29 - Sep 12 with 1054 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:25 - Sep 12 by jaseitfc2015

single parents, what do they do?


Consult their local resident anarcho syndicalist community action group for mutual support from a trusted and tested neighbour....don't pretend you haven't formed yours yet......next.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:37 - Sep 12 with 1021 viewsdickie

My step brother has 3 kids who all go to the same primary school. The eldest child has been sent home along with the rest of his year group to "isolate". He is living with his brothers who are in two different year groups at the same school...
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:46 - Sep 12 with 973 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:37 - Sep 12 by dickie

My step brother has 3 kids who all go to the same primary school. The eldest child has been sent home along with the rest of his year group to "isolate". He is living with his brothers who are in two different year groups at the same school...


Shhhhhh!

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:46 - Sep 12 with 971 viewsjaseitfc2015

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:29 - Sep 12 by BanksterDebtSlave

Consult their local resident anarcho syndicalist community action group for mutual support from a trusted and tested neighbour....don't pretend you haven't formed yours yet......next.


Trying to laugh mate, just not on that level with im afraid
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:59 - Sep 12 with 939 viewsSwansea_Blue

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:37 - Sep 12 by dickie

My step brother has 3 kids who all go to the same primary school. The eldest child has been sent home along with the rest of his year group to "isolate". He is living with his brothers who are in two different year groups at the same school...


Has he got a shed or an outhouse he can shove the elder son in? If not, you can pick up small festival tents really cheaply and stick it down the bottom of the garden. Lob him a box of cornflakes and box of milk every couple of days and he’ll be fine for 2 weeks.


(Doesn’t seem logical, does it).

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:09 - Sep 12 with 929 viewsElderGrizzly

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 21:14 - Sep 12 by jaseitfc2015

& the alternative is....


Don’t pretend they are safe, like this Government would have you believe and provide staff with the relevant PPE as other countries do

Schools should be open, but open with relevant precautions
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:14 - Sep 12 with 913 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:09 - Sep 12 by ElderGrizzly

Don’t pretend they are safe, like this Government would have you believe and provide staff with the relevant PPE as other countries do

Schools should be open, but open with relevant precautions


And maybe have much clearer guidelines on wearing masks rather than leaving it to individual head teachers to make the call.

Maybe having clearer central guidelines on mixed learning to reduce numbers in schools and encouraging working from home to allow parents to have children at home.

As inconvenient as having students at home is, it will be very much more inconvenient having your child looked after when the parent is on a ventilator or looking after your children when you have recovered but with lasting effects to your health.

How are teachers going to manage when their own children are sent home as part of an affected bubble if they have no other child care options?

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:16 - Sep 12 with 905 viewsElderGrizzly

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:14 - Sep 12 by Nthsuffolkblue

And maybe have much clearer guidelines on wearing masks rather than leaving it to individual head teachers to make the call.

Maybe having clearer central guidelines on mixed learning to reduce numbers in schools and encouraging working from home to allow parents to have children at home.

As inconvenient as having students at home is, it will be very much more inconvenient having your child looked after when the parent is on a ventilator or looking after your children when you have recovered but with lasting effects to your health.

How are teachers going to manage when their own children are sent home as part of an affected bubble if they have no other child care options?


Like the USA, all part of a strategy to absolve blame from the Government and pass down to local level to take the heat.
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 22:26 - Sep 12 with 876 viewsKing_ding_a_lin_g

I'm working with a very prestigious independent school in Cheshire at the moment (Rooneys included) and I've been utterley surprised at the sheer lack of precautions. No facemasks, no distancing... just nothing! It's very unsettling.
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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 00:44 - Sep 13 with 775 viewsBlueBadger

Yes, but *some nebulous concerns about foreigners here*, but I'm not racist.

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Schools are safe - part 276547 on 00:45 - Sep 13 with 769 viewsBlueBadger

Schools are safe - part 276547 on 20:24 - Sep 12 by leftback

There are 32770 schools in the UK, therefore there are 32150 schools without Covid cases.
The overwhelming majority of schools are safe.....
Also the ones with confirmed cases are closed


..that we know of.

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