| This briefing 11:08 - Sep 21 with 8715 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Why is he talking about what would happen if the cases were to double for the next few weeks every day? Telling us on what could perhaps happen maybe. Scaremongering. |  |
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| This briefing on 16:53 - Sep 21 with 1639 views | clive_baker |
| This briefing on 13:37 - Sep 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
Honestly, and this is way too deep for the internet so I’ll probably get rid of it in a bit, but who knows with this virus and the lack of ITFC of any of us will ever see each other again anyway.. so f**knit. this world is horrible. Let’s be realistic, it’s an awful awful place. The virus has added to it.
There’s millions and millions of people in a worse position than me so I really haven’t the right to complain. I like it on here sometimes to be able to scream into the wind of anonymity. Everyone has their issues in life and I’m often fine but right now it’s just really really draining. Every time I keep thinking something good has happened to me, something else comes along and kicks me straight back to the curb. My best friend I think saved me a couple of months ago when I was on the brink of making a big mistake. To then have her be racially abused had me flip out which has caused other problems to deal with. Was hoping to start some form of therapy in the next few weeks but who knows what’s happening with that. Same with the final year of uni. My relationship broke down too in lockdown just to add salt into the wounds. Briefly went back at my eyelashes for the first time in years too which is obviously not great (think I actually spoke about that on here once back when I was first bad in 2016). So all in all, it’s been a bit of a drain recently. This morning hearing from my university that my final year of my course is now in jeapardy (it requires face to face teaching which is problematic). Seeing my mates at the pub was one of the few things that had been helpful in the last year so I think seeing that on the news today about them closing, may have caused some anger.!
I shouldn’t have gone on a rant on here about the government and everything. I don’t have a clue what I’m talking about so I really don’t know why I was so angry or pretended that was where my anger was at. At the end of the day, me not being able to go to the pub really is minuscule in the grand scheme of the world. And I’m sure there’s people on here that have had relatives die from COVID so I do feel an apology is owed. Hopefully this little rant about the world right now may explain my selfishness earlier today. Also worth noting, my return to TWTD I thought may have helped and, without knowing it, it has actually in recent weeks been nice with the Ipswich threads and other such things. Little things like Warkys reports have been very much needed. Again, I have no idea why I’m writing this but the feeling of being able to scream into the wind and none of you seeing me any time soon is quite nice I think. Stay safe, Rommy. |
I don't know you chap and you haven't half chatted some guff on this thread but it makes a lot more sense having read this post which is clearly heart felt. You're obviously going through a challenging time and I'm sure everyone on here is sympathetic to your situation.
I just wanted to post that however bad you think things are, keep talking about it and confiding in those around you. From my experience, relationships are a funny one. I would wager at some point in the future you'll look back and be glad that this one didn't work out.
Whatever you do, just talk to those around you. |  |
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| This briefing on 17:13 - Sep 21 with 1609 views | Sarge |
| This briefing on 13:37 - Sep 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
Honestly, and this is way too deep for the internet so I’ll probably get rid of it in a bit, but who knows with this virus and the lack of ITFC of any of us will ever see each other again anyway.. so f**knit. this world is horrible. Let’s be realistic, it’s an awful awful place. The virus has added to it.
There’s millions and millions of people in a worse position than me so I really haven’t the right to complain. I like it on here sometimes to be able to scream into the wind of anonymity. Everyone has their issues in life and I’m often fine but right now it’s just really really draining. Every time I keep thinking something good has happened to me, something else comes along and kicks me straight back to the curb. My best friend I think saved me a couple of months ago when I was on the brink of making a big mistake. To then have her be racially abused had me flip out which has caused other problems to deal with. Was hoping to start some form of therapy in the next few weeks but who knows what’s happening with that. Same with the final year of uni. My relationship broke down too in lockdown just to add salt into the wounds. Briefly went back at my eyelashes for the first time in years too which is obviously not great (think I actually spoke about that on here once back when I was first bad in 2016). So all in all, it’s been a bit of a drain recently. This morning hearing from my university that my final year of my course is now in jeapardy (it requires face to face teaching which is problematic). Seeing my mates at the pub was one of the few things that had been helpful in the last year so I think seeing that on the news today about them closing, may have caused some anger.!
I shouldn’t have gone on a rant on here about the government and everything. I don’t have a clue what I’m talking about so I really don’t know why I was so angry or pretended that was where my anger was at. At the end of the day, me not being able to go to the pub really is minuscule in the grand scheme of the world. And I’m sure there’s people on here that have had relatives die from COVID so I do feel an apology is owed. Hopefully this little rant about the world right now may explain my selfishness earlier today. Also worth noting, my return to TWTD I thought may have helped and, without knowing it, it has actually in recent weeks been nice with the Ipswich threads and other such things. Little things like Warkys reports have been very much needed. Again, I have no idea why I’m writing this but the feeling of being able to scream into the wind and none of you seeing me any time soon is quite nice I think. Stay safe, Rommy. |
Romford mate you’re entitled to do what you like. Rant on here if you want, nobody can tell you otherwise. I know what it’s like to have people tell you to look at the bigger picture, consider yourself lucky that you haven’t caught it etc etc. That you’re being selfish for thinking about how you feel instead of someone far away that you’ve never met. You’re not.
People will say that you not being able to the pub, to go to football, to go abroad is trivial and that you should be grateful that you’re being protected. They’ll say just wear a mask, it’s not a big deal. They’ll say just see people on Zoom instead, it’s not a big deal. Well it doesn’t work like that. For those of us who are at little or no risk, which is many/most of us, this can feel incredibly draining and depressing to have your life put on hold seeming indefinitely. Ostensibly it’s to protect you, but in reality it’s not, it’s to protect the vulnerable and unfortunately your wellbeing falls by the wayside as a result of that. I know full well how that feels, my mental health has taken a pounding, I’ve developed anxiety of face masks and people telling me what to do. I’ve wished I could end it all on 23 separate occasions since the beginning of March, I keep a log on my phone.
You don’t need to apologise, people can sneer and say ‘but what about those people that died you’re not thinking about them’ but let them. Obviously don’t go out and be stupid and spread this thing around, it is still dangerous even if it personally doesn’t feel like it. But at the same time, as admirable as the ‘for the greater good’ mindset is, in the darkest and loneliest moments, it doesn’t feel like any of that matters at all. |  | | |
| This briefing on 17:49 - Sep 21 with 1557 views | Ryorry |
| This briefing on 17:13 - Sep 21 by Sarge |
Romford mate you’re entitled to do what you like. Rant on here if you want, nobody can tell you otherwise. I know what it’s like to have people tell you to look at the bigger picture, consider yourself lucky that you haven’t caught it etc etc. That you’re being selfish for thinking about how you feel instead of someone far away that you’ve never met. You’re not.
People will say that you not being able to the pub, to go to football, to go abroad is trivial and that you should be grateful that you’re being protected. They’ll say just wear a mask, it’s not a big deal. They’ll say just see people on Zoom instead, it’s not a big deal. Well it doesn’t work like that. For those of us who are at little or no risk, which is many/most of us, this can feel incredibly draining and depressing to have your life put on hold seeming indefinitely. Ostensibly it’s to protect you, but in reality it’s not, it’s to protect the vulnerable and unfortunately your wellbeing falls by the wayside as a result of that. I know full well how that feels, my mental health has taken a pounding, I’ve developed anxiety of face masks and people telling me what to do. I’ve wished I could end it all on 23 separate occasions since the beginning of March, I keep a log on my phone.
You don’t need to apologise, people can sneer and say ‘but what about those people that died you’re not thinking about them’ but let them. Obviously don’t go out and be stupid and spread this thing around, it is still dangerous even if it personally doesn’t feel like it. But at the same time, as admirable as the ‘for the greater good’ mindset is, in the darkest and loneliest moments, it doesn’t feel like any of that matters at all. |
Hey Sarge - sorry this is just a quick reply as about to go out, but have you got someone (or more) you can talk with re last bit of your 2nd para?
There's quite a few people with doors open on here too, including myself often at stupid o'clock (night owl). Pl don't hesitate to PM at any time if you feel like a chat. |  |
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| This briefing on 18:03 - Sep 21 with 1533 views | BrixtonBlue |
| This briefing on 17:49 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Hey Sarge - sorry this is just a quick reply as about to go out, but have you got someone (or more) you can talk with re last bit of your 2nd para?
There's quite a few people with doors open on here too, including myself often at stupid o'clock (night owl). Pl don't hesitate to PM at any time if you feel like a chat. |
Yeah I second that. I have plenty of experience of anxiety/depression so anyone can PM me for a chat if they want. Or you can buy my book, available soon from all good bookshops! |  |
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| This briefing on 18:05 - Sep 21 with 1531 views | Sarge |
| This briefing on 17:49 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Hey Sarge - sorry this is just a quick reply as about to go out, but have you got someone (or more) you can talk with re last bit of your 2nd para?
There's quite a few people with doors open on here too, including myself often at stupid o'clock (night owl). Pl don't hesitate to PM at any time if you feel like a chat. |
Hey Ryorry, yep I’m very well supported and consider myself very lucky to have the girlfriend I have. Thoughts are fleeting and never stray any further so no need to worry but thanks for your support.
All good in the hood right now. | | | |
| This briefing on 18:49 - Sep 21 with 1495 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Some very kind responses. Thankyou all.
I’m fortunate that there’s people I can talk to in real life. Only actually ever told one person (the aforementioned best friend) and she’s always helping me. In fact she’s already said about coming to therapy with me when I go. I’m up visiting her in Manchester in the week for a few days which will help. All just got a lot these recent months. I have been better the last couple of months actually but this morning I (quite obviously) just wasn’t doing great and took my anger out onto here I guess.
Your kindness though has lifted me a bit so Thankyou everyone. | |
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| This briefing on 18:53 - Sep 21 with 1485 views | Herbivore |
| This briefing on 18:49 - Sep 21 by The_Romford_Blue |
Some very kind responses. Thankyou all.
I’m fortunate that there’s people I can talk to in real life. Only actually ever told one person (the aforementioned best friend) and she’s always helping me. In fact she’s already said about coming to therapy with me when I go. I’m up visiting her in Manchester in the week for a few days which will help. All just got a lot these recent months. I have been better the last couple of months actually but this morning I (quite obviously) just wasn’t doing great and took my anger out onto here I guess.
Your kindness though has lifted me a bit so Thankyou everyone. |
You're a good egg, Rommers. |  |
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| This briefing on 21:04 - Sep 21 with 1434 views | jaykay |
| This briefing on 12:28 - Sep 21 by SpruceMoose |
I'm famous for giving Romford a hard time (when he deserves it) but I think you're being a little harsh here.
I'm sure he understands that everything you say is right, but that won't make his feelings of annoyance and frustration just evaporate. It's been a shîtty year and sooner or later everyone snaps.
If I was Romford I'd grab my flatmates, go do a Tesco booze run, fire up some biftas and have a Supermarkets Sweep marathon. Take advantage of the downtime for a little bit. |
if this had happened when i was a teenager in the 60s, i don't think i would have coped.
not so much mentally but as a teenager you think you are invincible. also you haven't learnt what your actions can impact on others. that comes with lives lessons. when i was a teenager if i couldn't get out with my mates ,the world would have seem to come to a end.
but then again i was tw@ as a teenager ,youth is wasted on the young.
at 71 i can see all what most posters are saying to rommers is correct , but the 17 year old me would have said bu££er you lot  |  |
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| This briefing on 21:09 - Sep 21 with 1424 views | 26_Paz |
Any restrictions this week will be completely unmerited and a huge over reaction. It’s not possible to get rid of the virus in its entirety, we have to learn to live as close to normal as possible with it. Hospital admissions and deaths remain extremely low, there is no risk of the NHS being overwhelmed presently, therefore no justification for further curbs on freedoms. |  |
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| This briefing on 21:11 - Sep 21 with 1425 views | J2BLUE |
| This briefing on 21:09 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
Any restrictions this week will be completely unmerited and a huge over reaction. It’s not possible to get rid of the virus in its entirety, we have to learn to live as close to normal as possible with it. Hospital admissions and deaths remain extremely low, there is no risk of the NHS being overwhelmed presently, therefore no justification for further curbs on freedoms. |
'Presently'. The figures put forward are a projection of where we COULD go. You buy insurance for your home just in case the worst happens. You don't phone up when it's on fire and ask to be insured. |  |
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| This briefing on 21:17 - Sep 21 with 1409 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 21:11 - Sep 21 by J2BLUE |
'Presently'. The figures put forward are a projection of where we COULD go. You buy insurance for your home just in case the worst happens. You don't phone up when it's on fire and ask to be insured. |
You don’t burn your house down because it COULD have a fire in a few weeks either ... | |
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| This briefing on 21:20 - Sep 21 with 1399 views | J2BLUE |
| This briefing on 21:17 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
You don’t burn your house down because it COULD have a fire in a few weeks either ... |
I have no words. | |
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| This briefing on 21:26 - Sep 21 with 1384 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 21:20 - Sep 21 by J2BLUE |
I have no words. |
Perhaps I’m explaining myself badly. Something is different to when it all kicked off before in mid March. Back then we went from hardly anyone in hospital and practically no deaths to absolute shed loads of both, literally hundreds of deaths a day, within a couple of weeks. That’s not happening here or in France or Spain, who I understand are generally accepted to be a couple of weeks ahead of us. I’m not going to pretend to know what’s different this time, but something is. Rates of deaths and hospital admissions are not rising as fast. Even in the worst case presented today they weren’t. This means different measures are required to minimise the damage. Minimising the damage is all you can do. You can’t stop it spreading without full, economy wreaking lock down. | |
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| This briefing on 22:01 - Sep 21 with 1350 views | m14_blue |
| This briefing on 21:26 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
Perhaps I’m explaining myself badly. Something is different to when it all kicked off before in mid March. Back then we went from hardly anyone in hospital and practically no deaths to absolute shed loads of both, literally hundreds of deaths a day, within a couple of weeks. That’s not happening here or in France or Spain, who I understand are generally accepted to be a couple of weeks ahead of us. I’m not going to pretend to know what’s different this time, but something is. Rates of deaths and hospital admissions are not rising as fast. Even in the worst case presented today they weren’t. This means different measures are required to minimise the damage. Minimising the damage is all you can do. You can’t stop it spreading without full, economy wreaking lock down. |
But surely what is to be announced tomorrow will be exactly as you say?
It won’t be a full lockdown, it will be different measures to minimise the impact as best they can whilst avoiding the need for a full lockdown.
If you’re dead set against another lockdown (and I totally agree that would be disastrous) then surely you should be welcoming these relatively minor restrictions designed to avoid it? | | | |
| This briefing on 22:04 - Sep 21 with 1346 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 22:01 - Sep 21 by m14_blue |
But surely what is to be announced tomorrow will be exactly as you say?
It won’t be a full lockdown, it will be different measures to minimise the impact as best they can whilst avoiding the need for a full lockdown.
If you’re dead set against another lockdown (and I totally agree that would be disastrous) then surely you should be welcoming these relatively minor restrictions designed to avoid it? |
As long as they are minor then, yes. I’ve got a bad feeling today was the warm up act to scare people into accepting some bad news tomorrow ... | |
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| This briefing on 22:08 - Sep 21 with 1338 views | m14_blue |
| This briefing on 22:04 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
As long as they are minor then, yes. I’ve got a bad feeling today was the warm up act to scare people into accepting some bad news tomorrow ... |
‘Relatively’ minor I reckon.
They’ll still be things which would have been unthinkable 9 months ago but I don’t think it’ll be anything close to what we saw in April. | | | |
| This briefing on 22:08 - Sep 21 with 1338 views | SpruceMoose |
| This briefing on 21:17 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
You don’t burn your house down because it COULD have a fire in a few weeks either ... |
With brains like this it's no wonder you look up to racists. |  |
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| This briefing on 22:09 - Sep 21 with 1331 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 22:08 - Sep 21 by m14_blue |
‘Relatively’ minor I reckon.
They’ll still be things which would have been unthinkable 9 months ago but I don’t think it’ll be anything close to what we saw in April. |
Hope so! | |
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| This briefing on 22:10 - Sep 21 with 1331 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 22:08 - Sep 21 by SpruceMoose |
With brains like this it's no wonder you look up to racists. |
I thought you said on the other thread you weren’t coming back with this nonsense again until tomorrow? You lasted like 10 minutes. | |
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| This briefing on 22:17 - Sep 21 with 1321 views | SpruceMoose |
| This briefing on 22:10 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
I thought you said on the other thread you weren’t coming back with this nonsense again until tomorrow? You lasted like 10 minutes. |
Racism and homophobia aren't nonsense Paz, even if you think they are. | |
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| This briefing on 22:19 - Sep 21 with 1316 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 22:17 - Sep 21 by SpruceMoose |
Racism and homophobia aren't nonsense Paz, even if you think they are. |
I never said they were. As you know, because you can read, I said that you implying that I look up to racists and homophones on a thread about coronavirus is nonsense. | |
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| This briefing on 22:28 - Sep 21 with 1296 views | SpruceMoose |
| This briefing on 22:19 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
I never said they were. As you know, because you can read, I said that you implying that I look up to racists and homophones on a thread about coronavirus is nonsense. |
It would be easy to prove me wrong. All you'd have to do is say that Johnson was wrong to use those terms. But you won't!
Oh well. I think we all know why! | |
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| This briefing on 22:32 - Sep 21 with 1288 views | 26_Paz |
| This briefing on 22:28 - Sep 21 by SpruceMoose |
It would be easy to prove me wrong. All you'd have to do is say that Johnson was wrong to use those terms. But you won't!
Oh well. I think we all know why! |
This is a completely different thread about a completely different topic. Am I allowed to do anything on here without you responding to it with this same old rubbish? We’ve done this to death elsewhere. Time to move on. You really are coming across as quite childish. | |
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| This briefing on 23:14 - Sep 21 with 1252 views | SpruceMoose |
| This briefing on 22:32 - Sep 21 by 26_Paz |
This is a completely different thread about a completely different topic. Am I allowed to do anything on here without you responding to it with this same old rubbish? We’ve done this to death elsewhere. Time to move on. You really are coming across as quite childish. |
So you still won't say it?
I'm sure you'd love me to drop it. Racists don't tend to like being called racists. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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