| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,†10:41 - Oct 2 with 6665 views | SitfcB |
“I mean come on, he’s a kid and he hasn’t been about it, he’s nowhere near ready.”
He did well in his cameo appearances towards the end of the season the other year, when Mick left, hasn’t had a sniff since. Klug chucked him in, for nothing games I know.
No one said we’ve got to ‘rely’ on him but would be an option on the bench for a couple of games and see how he does if he were to come on. [Post edited 2 Oct 2020 10:42]
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:39 - Oct 2 with 1085 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:33 - Oct 2 by TheTrueBlue1878 |
I don’t really see an issue here? He’s just giving an opinion on someone who probably isn’t ready yet.
He needs a loan move desperately at 21, I also think he’s better as a wide forward or in a front 2. I’m not sure he could lead a line in League 1 yet.
Is there an issue with what he said? He just gave his opinion that he isn’t ready yet.
If ain’t all sunshine and rainbows said about a younger player these days it’s a crime, madness. |
Exactly.
If he was any good, he'd have been in by now.
He may never be ready, maybe a loan move will help?
But saying "Folami is amazing, he's definitely capable of leading the line" when he is not, is pointless. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:46 - Oct 2 with 1074 views | BiGDonnie |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 10:45 - Oct 2 by ElderGrizzly |
Appalling man management again, especially as we don’t have many other options.
It should be “take your chance”, not you have no f*cking chance |
If he's not ready he's not ready.
Or should he lie to him and build up his confidence ready for a big fall? |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:46 - Oct 2 with 1078 views | SitfcB |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:18 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Well Phil's interpreted it the same way as me (referring to the role "but the Town manager says that’s too much responsibility") and then Lambert himself says, "...I know he can do centre forward, but you can't go on kids..."
I think you're seeing what you want to see... so you can have a pop at Lambo. |
Phil is just referring to it as in a striker has been injured and Folami would be seen as next in line, not about certain positioning. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:55 - Oct 2 with 1055 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:09 - Oct 2 by LankHenners |
He’s saying he’s ‘nowhere near ready’ to play there in league 1. If it was just down to position then why’s he not even been on the bench?
Have you been hired by the club to do PR for them? On any and every issue you work yourself into a stew defending Lambert/the club. |
I'm not working myself into anything, I'm just stating the facts. He is 100% talking about Folami's suitability for that role. It's there in black and white. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:57 - Oct 2 with 1055 views | TheTrueBlue1878 |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:39 - Oct 2 by Wallingford_Boy |
Exactly.
If he was any good, he'd have been in by now.
He may never be ready, maybe a loan move will help?
But saying "Folami is amazing, he's definitely capable of leading the line" when he is not, is pointless. |
That’s the problem. What is the point in giving a player sense of where they are at in there development. They need to know when they aren’t ready and when and how they need to develop.
Does seem to be the way the game has gone a bit though. Sensitive is the word I’d probably use. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:58 - Oct 2 with 1052 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:14 - Oct 2 by SitfcB |
“It doesn’t matter what personnel I put in. I just think if they do the job I ask them to do then there’s not a problem.“
He’s basically saying there anyone can play anywhere, within reason. |
a) He's not basically saying that at all and
b) This is an article from last year.
You're getting desperate mate. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:01 - Oct 2 with 1044 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:46 - Oct 2 by SitfcB |
Phil is just referring to it as in a striker has been injured and Folami would be seen as next in line, not about certain positioning. |
"I know he can do centre forward, but you can't go on kids. There’s no way." | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:06 - Oct 2 with 1039 views | SitfcB |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:01 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
"I know he can do centre forward, but you can't go on kids. There’s no way." |
Exactly.
So he knows he can play there.
But you can’t expect him to step up and play League 1 football. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:08 - Oct 2 with 1035 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:06 - Oct 2 by SitfcB |
Exactly.
So he knows he can play there.
But you can’t expect him to step up and play League 1 football. |
FFS sitters, the 'he can do centre forward' bit is referring to Sears.
I think you know this and are trolling me now. I'm done. I have work to do. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:16 - Oct 2 with 1021 views | SitfcB |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:08 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
FFS sitters, the 'he can do centre forward' bit is referring to Sears.
I think you know this and are trolling me now. I'm done. I have work to do. |
Why are you going on about Sears ffs, I thought you’d found another quote about Folami.
Was replying whilst ordering my sausage and chips.
I still feel you have mis interpreted it. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:18 - Oct 2 with 1015 views | SitfcB |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:58 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
a) He's not basically saying that at all and
b) This is an article from last year.
You're getting desperate mate. |
I’m aware it’s an article from last year, I searched for it. Used in reference.
Lambert is saying Folami isn’t up to playing League 1 football, men’s football if you want, and you can’t expect him to rise to it. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:23 - Oct 2 with 1007 views | pointofblue |
I suppose it’s the phrasing which is the issue but you would hope Lambert knows enough about each individual player and how they would respond to the comments. For some these comments would result in acceptance of their position and preparation to go out on loan, for some it would give them a kick up the backside leading to them ‘proving’ to Lambert they were ready and for some it’d end up with them going back into the shell with their confidence severely dented.
We can only hope Ben’s character will result in him responding in either of the first two ways rather than the third. That or Lambert’s trying to con Russell Martin and Folami starts tomorrow! |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:31 - Oct 2 with 992 views | GeoffSentence |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 10:52 - Oct 2 by FoghornGleghorn |
This "just a kid" rubbish seems to be wheeled out time and time again, he was saying the same thing about Drinan the other week too and he's older still. I'm not sure at what age it stops applying, but surely it's about ability and potential and choosing to have faith in it in as many cases as it's about them being thrown in. We chose to have Darren Bent and Darren Ambrose leading our line before they were 20, and I don't remember either of them wetting themselves or wanting their mums at any point of the season. |
I do recall Kieron Dyer's mum being called to the dressing room at half time in a match against Watford. KD had scored a decent goal, but it turned out that he did so with a broken leg. Not sure how his mum helped. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:51 - Oct 2 with 967 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:16 - Oct 2 by SitfcB |
Why are you going on about Sears ffs, I thought you’d found another quote about Folami.
Was replying whilst ordering my sausage and chips.
I still feel you have mis interpreted it. |
It's from the same passage I posted earlier. He (Lambert and the reporter) are discussing who can play that role. He says Sears can do it but you can't go on (rely on) kids (to do that role). | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:54 - Oct 2 with 968 views | itfcjoe |
Not a great quote on the surface of things, especially when realistically he needs to come into contention - he's 21 now, not 17. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:55 - Oct 2 with 962 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:23 - Oct 2 by pointofblue |
I suppose it’s the phrasing which is the issue but you would hope Lambert knows enough about each individual player and how they would respond to the comments. For some these comments would result in acceptance of their position and preparation to go out on loan, for some it would give them a kick up the backside leading to them ‘proving’ to Lambert they were ready and for some it’d end up with them going back into the shell with their confidence severely dented.
We can only hope Ben’s character will result in him responding in either of the first two ways rather than the third. That or Lambert’s trying to con Russell Martin and Folami starts tomorrow! |
If a young player being told he's not ready yet causes him go into his shell with his confidence severely dented then I'm afraid he hasn't got the required mental toughness and has probably proved the point. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:57 - Oct 2 with 949 views | soclopath |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 11:11 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Nope. You are definitely wrong.
"Youngster Ben Folami would appear to be the next in line to come into the reckoning in Norwood’s absence but the Town manager says that’s too much responsibility to put on the young Australian’s shoulders at this point in his development.
“You can’t really on Ben Folami,” he said. “I mean come on, he’s a kid and he hasn’t been about it, he’s nowhere near ready.
“Ben hopefully will go out on loan. Aaron has obviously done really well since he’s been in, Freddie [Sears]’s best position for me is wide, I know he can do centre forward, but you can't go on kids. There’s no way. They haven’t even been round about it yet.”
He was specifically talking about that position. [Post edited 2 Oct 2020 11:12]
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Just wait for Folami to put in for a transfer and becomes a successful permanent striker with another club. | | | |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:00 - Oct 2 with 949 views | BrixtonBlue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 13:54 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
Not a great quote on the surface of things, especially when realistically he needs to come into contention - he's 21 now, not 17. |
Do you think Lambert's saying he doesn't think Folami's ready to play that role on his own, or do you think he means he's not ready to play in League 1 full stop?
And do you agree?
I appreciate he's 21, not 17, but even so, he's had very little first team experience (you could argue that's partly Lambert's fault) and it does seem a big ask for him to come in from nowhere and take on such an important and specialist role if something were to happen to Hawkins. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:10 - Oct 2 with 937 views | itfcjoe |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:00 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Do you think Lambert's saying he doesn't think Folami's ready to play that role on his own, or do you think he means he's not ready to play in League 1 full stop?
And do you agree?
I appreciate he's 21, not 17, but even so, he's had very little first team experience (you could argue that's partly Lambert's fault) and it does seem a big ask for him to come in from nowhere and take on such an important and specialist role if something were to happen to Hawkins. |
It reads to me that Lambert has been very flippant with, and that he's not ready to play for us - full stop. He needs a loan, when we are already in 3rd tier and he has nowhere to really go!
Hopefully he starts against Gillingham on Tuesday, and can maybe give Lambert a few things to think about - because realisitcally we may need him as at least a bench option, personally I'd say he's capable of it from what I've seen and the situation we find ourselves in with the salary cap limiting what we can do. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:10 - Oct 2 with 930 views | pointofblue |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:00 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Do you think Lambert's saying he doesn't think Folami's ready to play that role on his own, or do you think he means he's not ready to play in League 1 full stop?
And do you agree?
I appreciate he's 21, not 17, but even so, he's had very little first team experience (you could argue that's partly Lambert's fault) and it does seem a big ask for him to come in from nowhere and take on such an important and specialist role if something were to happen to Hawkins. |
Then again, look at Drinan - from nowhere to being an important player until he picked up an injury. | |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:13 - Oct 2 with 928 views | BlueBadger |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 11:17 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Apart from the ones he actually plays. |
...when he's got no other options available. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:18 - Oct 2 with 922 views | PhilTWTD |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 12:18 - Oct 2 by BrixtonBlue |
Well Phil's interpreted it the same way as me (referring to the role "but the Town manager says that’s too much responsibility") and then Lambert himself says, "...I know he can do centre forward, but you can't go on kids..."
I think you're seeing what you want to see... so you can have a pop at Lambo. |
I'm not sure which way he meant it, to be honest, although I think in general he feels he's simply not ready at this stage.
It wouldn't surprise me if he were to be more willing to give BF a run from the bench as a wide striker at some stage, if we were two or three goals up, but probably less likely in the central role. |  | | |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:38 - Oct 2 with 897 views | Darth_Koont |
I hate that attitude. He’s had his debut and performed well in the Championship FFS.
He may not deserve his chance when all are fit and available but if he’s not an answer even in an emergency in League One then why’s he here and wasting everyone’s time, least of all his own? |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:39 - Oct 2 with 900 views | J2BLUE |
If MM had said this no one would be bothered. The vast majority on here agree we need another decent senior option. Lambert has gone in two footed to make it crystal clear to Evans that this is essential.
A non story. |  |
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| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:41 - Oct 2 with 892 views | SitfcB |
| “You can’t really rely on Ben Folami,” on 14:10 - Oct 2 by itfcjoe |
It reads to me that Lambert has been very flippant with, and that he's not ready to play for us - full stop. He needs a loan, when we are already in 3rd tier and he has nowhere to really go!
Hopefully he starts against Gillingham on Tuesday, and can maybe give Lambert a few things to think about - because realisitcally we may need him as at least a bench option, personally I'd say he's capable of it from what I've seen and the situation we find ourselves in with the salary cap limiting what we can do. |
Dear oh, dear. That’s you and Phil who agree with me now.
Do you want me to order you some tissues for your wasted tears, Brixton Blue. | |
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