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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** 12:46 - Jan 21 with 4317 viewsmonytowbray



Why? Just why? What value does Farage offer to fact?

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 with 1693 viewsJ2BLUE

What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:53 - Jan 21 with 1665 viewsBlueBadger

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE

What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote.


Whilst women, non-white people, LGBTQ people, foreigners, nationalised public services, poor people and good fashioned 'be excellent to one another' still exist, Nigel Farage will still find reason to exist, like the soulless decency vacuum that he is.

And vile venus honeypots will lap it up it because he 'tells it like it is'.

And then whine when you tell it like it is and call them venus honeypots.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:56 - Jan 21 with 1641 viewsmonytowbray

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE

What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote.


I saw lastnight him posting videos on Trump and how he has no regrets supporting him.

He’s our attempt to FOX NEWS us into becoming spoon fed authoritarian propaganda like they have in the USA. I’d hope the UK is less susceptible to it as they can’t use God as a tool to brainwash like the US does.

The guy is a lying c*ck, whether you are for Brexit or not.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:01 - Jan 21 with 1611 viewsChurchman

You watch the demand for Trump by the media when he emerges from his hidey hole and the courts have done with him. He isn’t going away either!
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:02 - Jan 21 with 1593 viewsmonytowbray

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:01 - Jan 21 by Churchman

You watch the demand for Trump by the media when he emerges from his hidey hole and the courts have done with him. He isn’t going away either!


Dunno, he’s got a lot more to hide now and is probably realising perhaps all the attention seeking after becoming the most powerful person in the world wasn’t the move for a mobster.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:28 - Jan 21 with 1521 viewsMattinLondon

He goes on the BBC to get maximum exposure - he thrives on attention. Then he goes back onto Twitter to complain about the lefty liberal BBC and his supporters lap it up. The BBC offer Farage airtime because they are scared of being accused of being too left leaning.

Farage has done an excellent job in reinventing himself as not part of the elite despite being part of it.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:29 - Jan 21 with 1515 viewsBlueBadger

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:28 - Jan 21 by MattinLondon

He goes on the BBC to get maximum exposure - he thrives on attention. Then he goes back onto Twitter to complain about the lefty liberal BBC and his supporters lap it up. The BBC offer Farage airtime because they are scared of being accused of being too left leaning.

Farage has done an excellent job in reinventing himself as not part of the elite despite being part of it.
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Yeah, but look at the people he's fooling. They're not exactly the difficult to fool types, by and large.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:31 - Jan 21 with 1505 viewsStokieBlue

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:02 - Jan 21 by monytowbray

Dunno, he’s got a lot more to hide now and is probably realising perhaps all the attention seeking after becoming the most powerful person in the world wasn’t the move for a mobster.


He's apparently thinking about starting a "Patriot Party" which would be awful but also slightly amusing to see the Republicans scrambling to try and stop their vote from splitting.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:39 - Jan 21 with 1482 viewsgiant_ullaa

no platforming: shudder

Thats not the answer - not sure what is, but you'll just feed their narative like that.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:44 - Jan 21 with 1466 viewsDanTheMan

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:39 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

no platforming: shudder

Thats not the answer - not sure what is, but you'll just feed their narative like that.


It's the only tool that works. I do understand that it's nowhere near ideal but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

If not, should we be giving every extremist some air time too? Could get Abu Hamza on for a a debate on women's rights.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 with 1407 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:44 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

It's the only tool that works. I do understand that it's nowhere near ideal but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

If not, should we be giving every extremist some air time too? Could get Abu Hamza on for a a debate on women's rights.


Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).

Edit: no outrage!
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:11 - Jan 21 with 1370 viewsBlueBadger

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).

Edit: no outrage!
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Lest we forget, Farage has ties to a whole load of far right groups and one of his supporters murdered an MP in 2016.

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-attended-dinner-with-right-wing-con
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 with 1348 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:11 - Jan 21 by BlueBadger

Lest we forget, Farage has ties to a whole load of far right groups and one of his supporters murdered an MP in 2016.

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-attended-dinner-with-right-wing-con
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Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.

Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:21 - Jan 21 with 1340 viewsBlueBadger

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.

Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think.


Thing is, these people are actively fuelling and encouraging far-terror. And they're actively egged on with their incitements by cheerleaders in the mainstream media.

If they spend they careers fostering and fuelling hate, they really shouldn't be offended when people suggest that they might be helping radicalise people into violent acts.

But hey, good people on both sides.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 with 1318 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:21 - Jan 21 by BlueBadger

Thing is, these people are actively fuelling and encouraging far-terror. And they're actively egged on with their incitements by cheerleaders in the mainstream media.

If they spend they careers fostering and fuelling hate, they really shouldn't be offended when people suggest that they might be helping radicalise people into violent acts.

But hey, good people on both sides.
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Where people are engaged in far-right terrorism, they should be dealt with swiftly.

I just think it's dangerous to conflate far-right terrorists with right wing politics - just as dangerous as conflating Muslims with Muslim fundamentalist terrorists.

Edit: and there really are good people on both sides - not a fan of this creeping twtd-ism
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 with 1318 viewsDanTheMan

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).

Edit: no outrage!
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That's kind of my point.

We're already onto "OK well person X we don't want to have a platform, but person Y is OK". So we've already drawn the line, we're just left talking about where it's drawn.

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:28 - Jan 21 with 1307 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

That's kind of my point.

We're already onto "OK well person X we don't want to have a platform, but person Y is OK". So we've already drawn the line, we're just left talking about where it's drawn.


The line is drawn at criminality surely and that's clearly defined, hence my objection to comparing Farage and Abu Hamza.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:29 - Jan 21 with 1303 viewsDanTheMan

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:28 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

The line is drawn at criminality surely and that's clearly defined, hence my objection to comparing Farage and Abu Hamza.


What about neo-Nazis who have not committed a criminal offence? Should they be allowed on?

The thing is you do support deplatforming, you're just saying that you don't think Farage should be deplatformed. Those are two very different things.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:31 - Jan 21 with 1287 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:29 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

What about neo-Nazis who have not committed a criminal offence? Should they be allowed on?

The thing is you do support deplatforming, you're just saying that you don't think Farage should be deplatformed. Those are two very different things.
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If they're promoting hate wouldn't that fall foul of the hate crime laws? I'm not a lawyer obvs.

Edit to your edit (!): i'm not supporting deplatforming of people who are speaking within the confines of free-speach law as Frarage has apparently managed to, to date at least.
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Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:32 - Jan 21 with 1277 viewsSpruceMoose

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:53 - Jan 21 by BlueBadger

Whilst women, non-white people, LGBTQ people, foreigners, nationalised public services, poor people and good fashioned 'be excellent to one another' still exist, Nigel Farage will still find reason to exist, like the soulless decency vacuum that he is.

And vile venus honeypots will lap it up it because he 'tells it like it is'.

And then whine when you tell it like it is and call them venus honeypots.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:33 - Jan 21 with 1276 viewsDanTheMan

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:31 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

If they're promoting hate wouldn't that fall foul of the hate crime laws? I'm not a lawyer obvs.

Edit to your edit (!): i'm not supporting deplatforming of people who are speaking within the confines of free-speach law as Frarage has apparently managed to, to date at least.
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But that's not the point, should they be allowed a platform period?

Even if on the program they aren't espousing hate.

Btw, I think it's fine if you think that Farage should have a platform. I used Hamza because he was obviously an extreme example because I think saying "we shouldn't deplatform" is actually an extreme position which I don't think you seriously hold.

For me, anyone who brings up Cultural Marxism is very obviously flirting with antisemitism. Just because he's not been arrested or charged makes very little difference to me. Getting around the laws by using dog whistles I don't think makes it morally correct.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:34 - Jan 21 with 1260 viewsEwan_Oozami

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.

Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think.


But it's ok to do the same with the left, or even us poor, beleaguered Extreme Centrists?

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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:35 - Jan 21 with 1254 viewsBlueBadger

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 by giant_ullaa

Where people are engaged in far-right terrorism, they should be dealt with swiftly.

I just think it's dangerous to conflate far-right terrorists with right wing politics - just as dangerous as conflating Muslims with Muslim fundamentalist terrorists.

Edit: and there really are good people on both sides - not a fan of this creeping twtd-ism
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Trouble is, Farage(and increasingly the mainstream right) has spent most of his career actively stirring hate to win attention, votes and profit.

We saw how that ends on January 6.

I for one, am sick of the 'good people' on the right, sitting back, letting these c*nts get on with it and then wringing their hands when it all ends in violence.

I genuinely fear it's coming, in some shape, to this country in the next few years.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:35 - Jan 21 with 1249 viewsgiant_ullaa

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:33 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan

But that's not the point, should they be allowed a platform period?

Even if on the program they aren't espousing hate.

Btw, I think it's fine if you think that Farage should have a platform. I used Hamza because he was obviously an extreme example because I think saying "we shouldn't deplatform" is actually an extreme position which I don't think you seriously hold.

For me, anyone who brings up Cultural Marxism is very obviously flirting with antisemitism. Just because he's not been arrested or charged makes very little difference to me. Getting around the laws by using dog whistles I don't think makes it morally correct.
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You're going to fast for me mr! See my edit re free speach laws.

Obviously a privately provided platform can do what it likes, but no Farage shouldn't be denied *all* platforms as long as he stays within the law.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:38 - Jan 21 with 1234 viewsmonytowbray

When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:31 - Jan 21 by StokieBlue

He's apparently thinking about starting a "Patriot Party" which would be awful but also slightly amusing to see the Republicans scrambling to try and stop their vote from splitting.

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To see American democracy split off like that would be interesting for them and the wider democratic world though.

It would mean some very rich and powerful (alas also complete f*ckwit) people with lobbying power will want things like the electoral college gone for fair representation.

That would open the door to all sorts of things, both good and bad, but overall I would welcome heading that way. Would be nice to know my Green membership is more than just moral support on principle if the USA led to democracy reforms.

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