| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** 12:46 - Jan 21 with 5892 views | monytowbray |
Why? Just why? What value does Farage offer to fact? |  |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 with 2119 views | J2BLUE |
What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote. |  |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:53 - Jan 21 with 2091 views | BlueBadger |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE |
What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote. |
Whilst women, non-white people, LGBTQ people, foreigners, nationalised public services, poor people and good fashioned 'be excellent to one another' still exist, Nigel Farage will still find reason to exist, like the soulless decency vacuum that he is.
And vile venus honeypots will lap it up it because he 'tells it like it is'.
And then whine when you tell it like it is and call them venus honeypots. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:47]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:56 - Jan 21 with 2067 views | monytowbray |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:49 - Jan 21 by J2BLUE |
What does he have left to say? Brexit is done, Trump has gone. Is he just whining about Trump or is he part of the 'reclaim party'? If so, leave him to it so they can split the Tory vote. |
I saw lastnight him posting videos on Trump and how he has no regrets supporting him.
He’s our attempt to FOX NEWS us into becoming spoon fed authoritarian propaganda like they have in the USA. I’d hope the UK is less susceptible to it as they can’t use God as a tool to brainwash like the US does.
The guy is a lying c*ck, whether you are for Brexit or not. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:01 - Jan 21 with 2037 views | Churchman |
You watch the demand for Trump by the media when he emerges from his hidey hole and the courts have done with him. He isn’t going away either! |  | | |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:02 - Jan 21 with 2019 views | monytowbray |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:01 - Jan 21 by Churchman |
You watch the demand for Trump by the media when he emerges from his hidey hole and the courts have done with him. He isn’t going away either! |
Dunno, he’s got a lot more to hide now and is probably realising perhaps all the attention seeking after becoming the most powerful person in the world wasn’t the move for a mobster. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:28 - Jan 21 with 1947 views | MattinLondon |
He goes on the BBC to get maximum exposure - he thrives on attention. Then he goes back onto Twitter to complain about the lefty liberal BBC and his supporters lap it up. The BBC offer Farage airtime because they are scared of being accused of being too left leaning.
Farage has done an excellent job in reinventing himself as not part of the elite despite being part of it. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 13:45]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:29 - Jan 21 with 1941 views | BlueBadger |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:28 - Jan 21 by MattinLondon |
He goes on the BBC to get maximum exposure - he thrives on attention. Then he goes back onto Twitter to complain about the lefty liberal BBC and his supporters lap it up. The BBC offer Farage airtime because they are scared of being accused of being too left leaning.
Farage has done an excellent job in reinventing himself as not part of the elite despite being part of it. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 13:45]
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Yeah, but look at the people he's fooling. They're not exactly the difficult to fool types, by and large. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:31 - Jan 21 with 1931 views | StokieBlue |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:02 - Jan 21 by monytowbray |
Dunno, he’s got a lot more to hide now and is probably realising perhaps all the attention seeking after becoming the most powerful person in the world wasn’t the move for a mobster. |
He's apparently thinking about starting a "Patriot Party" which would be awful but also slightly amusing to see the Republicans scrambling to try and stop their vote from splitting.
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:39 - Jan 21 with 1908 views | giant_stow |
no platforming: shudder
Thats not the answer - not sure what is, but you'll just feed their narative like that. |  |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:44 - Jan 21 with 1892 views | DanTheMan |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:39 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
no platforming: shudder
Thats not the answer - not sure what is, but you'll just feed their narative like that. |
It's the only tool that works. I do understand that it's nowhere near ideal but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If not, should we be giving every extremist some air time too? Could get Abu Hamza on for a a debate on women's rights. |  |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 with 1833 views | giant_stow |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:44 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan |
It's the only tool that works. I do understand that it's nowhere near ideal but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
If not, should we be giving every extremist some air time too? Could get Abu Hamza on for a a debate on women's rights. |
Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).
Edit: no outrage! [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:03]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:11 - Jan 21 with 1796 views | BlueBadger |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).
Edit: no outrage! [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:03]
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Lest we forget, Farage has ties to a whole load of far right groups and one of his supporters murdered an MP in 2016.
https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-attended-dinner-with-right-wing-con [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:14]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 with 1774 views | giant_stow |
Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.
Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:21 - Jan 21 with 1766 views | BlueBadger |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.
Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think. |
Thing is, these people are actively fuelling and encouraging far-terror. And they're actively egged on with their incitements by cheerleaders in the mainstream media.
If they spend they careers fostering and fuelling hate, they really shouldn't be offended when people suggest that they might be helping radicalise people into violent acts.
But hey, good people on both sides. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:23]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 with 1744 views | giant_stow |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:21 - Jan 21 by BlueBadger |
Thing is, these people are actively fuelling and encouraging far-terror. And they're actively egged on with their incitements by cheerleaders in the mainstream media.
If they spend they careers fostering and fuelling hate, they really shouldn't be offended when people suggest that they might be helping radicalise people into violent acts.
But hey, good people on both sides. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:23]
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Where people are engaged in far-right terrorism, they should be dealt with swiftly.
I just think it's dangerous to conflate far-right terrorists with right wing politics - just as dangerous as conflating Muslims with Muslim fundamentalist terrorists.
Edit: and there really are good people on both sides - not a fan of this creeping twtd-ism [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:29]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 with 1744 views | DanTheMan |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:03 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
Comparing Farage with Abu Hamza is a problem right away - I'm sure a few righties reading that will be outraged and offended. (I openned your post to reply then paused, so maybe they already are?).
Edit: no outrage! [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:03]
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That's kind of my point.
We're already onto "OK well person X we don't want to have a platform, but person Y is OK". So we've already drawn the line, we're just left talking about where it's drawn. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:28 - Jan 21 with 1733 views | giant_stow |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan |
That's kind of my point.
We're already onto "OK well person X we don't want to have a platform, but person Y is OK". So we've already drawn the line, we're just left talking about where it's drawn. |
The line is drawn at criminality surely and that's clearly defined, hence my objection to comparing Farage and Abu Hamza. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:29 - Jan 21 with 1729 views | DanTheMan |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:28 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
The line is drawn at criminality surely and that's clearly defined, hence my objection to comparing Farage and Abu Hamza. |
What about neo-Nazis who have not committed a criminal offence? Should they be allowed on?
The thing is you do support deplatforming, you're just saying that you don't think Farage should be deplatformed. Those are two very different things. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:30]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:31 - Jan 21 with 1713 views | giant_stow |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:29 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan |
What about neo-Nazis who have not committed a criminal offence? Should they be allowed on?
The thing is you do support deplatforming, you're just saying that you don't think Farage should be deplatformed. Those are two very different things. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:30]
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If they're promoting hate wouldn't that fall foul of the hate crime laws? I'm not a lawyer obvs.
Edit to your edit (!): i'm not supporting deplatforming of people who are speaking within the confines of free-speach law as Frarage has apparently managed to, to date at least. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:33]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:32 - Jan 21 with 1703 views | SpruceMoose |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 12:53 - Jan 21 by BlueBadger |
Whilst women, non-white people, LGBTQ people, foreigners, nationalised public services, poor people and good fashioned 'be excellent to one another' still exist, Nigel Farage will still find reason to exist, like the soulless decency vacuum that he is.
And vile venus honeypots will lap it up it because he 'tells it like it is'.
And then whine when you tell it like it is and call them venus honeypots. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:47]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:33 - Jan 21 with 1702 views | DanTheMan |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:31 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
If they're promoting hate wouldn't that fall foul of the hate crime laws? I'm not a lawyer obvs.
Edit to your edit (!): i'm not supporting deplatforming of people who are speaking within the confines of free-speach law as Frarage has apparently managed to, to date at least. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:33]
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But that's not the point, should they be allowed a platform period?
Even if on the program they aren't espousing hate.
Btw, I think it's fine if you think that Farage should have a platform. I used Hamza because he was obviously an extreme example because I think saying "we shouldn't deplatform" is actually an extreme position which I don't think you seriously hold.
For me, anyone who brings up Cultural Marxism is very obviously flirting with antisemitism. Just because he's not been arrested or charged makes very little difference to me. Getting around the laws by using dog whistles I don't think makes it morally correct. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:36]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:34 - Jan 21 with 1686 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:18 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
Even so, one's a convicted terrorist and the other isn't.
Telling right wingers that their views are akin to those of a terrorist can't be helpful, unless the aim is for all out culture war, possibly followed by the real thing. And if that is the aim, perhaps, it's not just the righties who need to stop and think. |
But it's ok to do the same with the left, or even us poor, beleaguered Extreme Centrists? |  |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:35 - Jan 21 with 1680 views | BlueBadger |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:27 - Jan 21 by giant_stow |
Where people are engaged in far-right terrorism, they should be dealt with swiftly.
I just think it's dangerous to conflate far-right terrorists with right wing politics - just as dangerous as conflating Muslims with Muslim fundamentalist terrorists.
Edit: and there really are good people on both sides - not a fan of this creeping twtd-ism [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:29]
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Trouble is, Farage(and increasingly the mainstream right) has spent most of his career actively stirring hate to win attention, votes and profit.
We saw how that ends on January 6.
I for one, am sick of the 'good people' on the right, sitting back, letting these c*nts get on with it and then wringing their hands when it all ends in violence.
I genuinely fear it's coming, in some shape, to this country in the next few years. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:45]
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:35 - Jan 21 with 1675 views | giant_stow |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:33 - Jan 21 by DanTheMan |
But that's not the point, should they be allowed a platform period?
Even if on the program they aren't espousing hate.
Btw, I think it's fine if you think that Farage should have a platform. I used Hamza because he was obviously an extreme example because I think saying "we shouldn't deplatform" is actually an extreme position which I don't think you seriously hold.
For me, anyone who brings up Cultural Marxism is very obviously flirting with antisemitism. Just because he's not been arrested or charged makes very little difference to me. Getting around the laws by using dog whistles I don't think makes it morally correct. [Post edited 21 Jan 2021 14:36]
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You're going to fast for me mr! See my edit re free speach laws.
Obviously a privately provided platform can do what it likes, but no Farage shouldn't be denied *all* platforms as long as he stays within the law. | |
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| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 14:38 - Jan 21 with 1660 views | monytowbray |
| When will the media learn to stop platforming these lying ***** on 13:31 - Jan 21 by StokieBlue |
He's apparently thinking about starting a "Patriot Party" which would be awful but also slightly amusing to see the Republicans scrambling to try and stop their vote from splitting.
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To see American democracy split off like that would be interesting for them and the wider democratic world though.
It would mean some very rich and powerful (alas also complete f*ckwit) people with lobbying power will want things like the electoral college gone for fair representation.
That would open the door to all sorts of things, both good and bad, but overall I would welcome heading that way. Would be nice to know my Green membership is more than just moral support on principle if the USA led to democracy reforms. | |
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