| Almost Complete clear out 21:30 - Jan 27 with 4037 views | cressi |
I think when the new man takes over when summer comes and lots of contacts expire we should have a new beginning as this lot have not got the winning mentality
required to win anything . New players new attitude. |  | | |  |
| Almost Complete clear out on 09:50 - Jan 28 with 704 views | jayessess |
| Almost Complete clear out on 02:22 - Jan 28 by HARRY10 |
I think you are getting yourself a bit confused.
One of the reasons Lambert has been given a 5 year contract is to be able to rebuild once there has been the clear out this summer.
With the wage cap kicks in many of those departing PR will find they won't find it so easy once out into the real world, of far lower wages.
If Lambert was being judged on this seasons results alone, he would have been long gone by now. He is not.
This is part if turning round the club, so get used to it. |
If Lambert wanted to clear out, he wouldn't have extended contracts of half the squad over the course of his tenure. |  |
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| Almost Complete clear out on 09:52 - Jan 28 with 699 views | jayessess |
| Almost Complete clear out on 08:31 - Jan 28 by itfcjoe |
Be interesting what the new manager wants to do, I don't think there will be as big a clear out as some expect |
I think if we were an ambitious club then we'd be looking at Lincoln City (for e.g.) and wondering why we're currently getting so little bang for our buck with this group of players. But I suspect you're right and this Summer we'll be looking at (cheaply) renewing a lot of the guys who are currently here. [Post edited 28 Jan 2021 10:50]
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| Almost Complete clear out on 10:21 - Jan 28 with 659 views | You_Bloo_Right |
The "new beginning" in terms of a thorough assessment of the squad with some familiar names departing should have been what happened when we first dropped into this division IMO. Plus the reinforcement/instigation of a style of play to suit the players we have and that they are confident playing.
Fair enough it is needed more than ever now but boy what a wasted 2 years this has been. |  |
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| Almost Complete clear out on 12:50 - Jan 28 with 624 views | Harlestonblue |
| Almost Complete clear out on 01:43 - Jan 28 by SuperCoops |
I would think if we got rid of the likes of Chambers, Ward, Nsiala, Skuse, Nolan, Judge, Huws, Jackson, Sears and maybe Wright and Pryzbek and one of either Bishop or Downes.
I would think this would make a significant cut in the wage bill, then force a fresh and younger start.
The club has had a losing mentality for far too long (I can't think of comments that ex-players like Supple and Garvan said about the attitude within the club go deeper than that). I was hoping relegation would have kick started a revolution in the right direction, but it hasn't. |
I think every one of our so called "Strike force" can go.
It must be the weakest attack in ITFC history. No potency whatsoever. So injury prone and simply unable to score. Why on earth hasn't this been sorted? Waghorn/Garner/Murphy never replaced.
Everyone can see it apart from Lambert/Evans/O'Neill. | | | |
| Almost Complete clear out on 13:18 - Jan 28 with 600 views | J2BLUE |
| Almost Complete clear out on 02:22 - Jan 28 by HARRY10 |
I think you are getting yourself a bit confused.
One of the reasons Lambert has been given a 5 year contract is to be able to rebuild once there has been the clear out this summer.
With the wage cap kicks in many of those departing PR will find they won't find it so easy once out into the real world, of far lower wages.
If Lambert was being judged on this seasons results alone, he would have been long gone by now. He is not.
This is part if turning round the club, so get used to it. |
One of the reasons Lambert has been given a 5 year contract is to be able to rebuild once there has been the clear out this summer.
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| Almost Complete clear out on 14:24 - Jan 28 with 565 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Almost Complete clear out on 13:18 - Jan 28 by J2BLUE |
One of the reasons Lambert has been given a 5 year contract is to be able to rebuild once there has been the clear out this summer.
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It does feel like the summer could be a defining moment for the club. If a new man came in and said that he was going to build the team around the likes of Dozzell, Dobra, El Miz, Baggott etc but that the trade off would be that we might have to forget about promotion for a couple of years whilst the kids matured, would fans accept that?
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| Almost Complete clear out on 14:28 - Jan 28 with 564 views | lambchoppywaters |
A colleague suggested the squad each write down their own reasons for wanting to remain a Town player. Let a panel of fans review the applications ahead of them being considered by any new manager in the summer. | | | |
| Almost Complete clear out on 14:36 - Jan 28 with 546 views | J2BLUE |
| Almost Complete clear out on 14:28 - Jan 28 by lambchoppywaters |
A colleague suggested the squad each write down their own reasons for wanting to remain a Town player. Let a panel of fans review the applications ahead of them being considered by any new manager in the summer. |
Would you expect honesty? It's like going for an interview and being asked why you want to work for the company. 90% of the time it's the salary but you have to make something up which makes it pointless. Perhaps there can be a legit reason for wanting to do jobs which make a difference but jobs like customer service for a bank for example,, it's the salary isn't it? No one wants to spend their time working in a call centre taking tedious calls. Same logic with footballers. Why do you want to be an Ipswich player? The salary. Maybe 1-2 have a genuinely good reason. Maybe Dozzell wants to follow his father. Maybe Woolf wants to play for his hometown club. Most are here for the money. Nothing wrong with that, just making a point., | |
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| Almost Complete clear out on 14:39 - Jan 28 with 538 views | PhilTWTD |
| Almost Complete clear out on 08:31 - Jan 28 by itfcjoe |
Be interesting what the new manager wants to do, I don't think there will be as big a clear out as some expect |
Think there'll have to be a clear-out to some degree as we'll have far too many players, particularly with the senior player limit reduced to 20, but I agree that all the senior players aren't going to be jettisoned en masse to clear the decks. |  | | |
| Almost Complete clear out on 14:42 - Jan 28 with 531 views | Vic |
Keep Woolf, KYV, Bishop, Dozell, Downes, Edwards and Jackson plus A few of the experienced players who under a new manager could still do a job in this division (Norwood, Judge, Nolan). We’ll need a few old heads with fresh management those guys could still be decent players. Sublime NT with El Mis, Dobra, Morris, etc. |  |
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| Almost Complete clear out on 21:00 - Jan 28 with 470 views | Garv |
| Almost Complete clear out on 09:27 - Jan 28 by Ace_High1 |
Joe do you not think we need a bit of a refresh though?
The core of this squad have been together for the last 3-4 years which has been one of the worst periods in the clubs history.
I think it is fair to say (regardless of the very poor management in that period) that overall these players are used to losing games, conceding goals and not scoring many. We have a losing mentality in the club.
A complete refresh this summer with a new manager and maybe a clear out is just what we need to reset.
Keep Bish, Dozzell and Downes if we can, get rid of the rest and start again. |
The majority haven't been here or in the first team that long.
An example of our 'best' XI (excluding loans) and when they joined us/came through:
Holy - 2019-20
Chambers 2012-13
Woolfenden - considered a first team player since 2019/20
Wilson -2019-20
Ward - 2020-21
Bishop - 2014-15
Downes - 2018-19
Dozzell - 2017-18 (later if accounting for injury)
Lankester - 2018-19
Norwood - 2019-20
Edwards - 2018-19
I think we need a huge shake up of our experienced heads, but if we're to continue using our young players they'll need time, because they're not as good as some make out. |  |
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| Almost Complete clear out on 21:09 - Jan 28 with 465 views | itfcjoe |
| Almost Complete clear out on 21:00 - Jan 28 by Garv |
The majority haven't been here or in the first team that long.
An example of our 'best' XI (excluding loans) and when they joined us/came through:
Holy - 2019-20
Chambers 2012-13
Woolfenden - considered a first team player since 2019/20
Wilson -2019-20
Ward - 2020-21
Bishop - 2014-15
Downes - 2018-19
Dozzell - 2017-18 (later if accounting for injury)
Lankester - 2018-19
Norwood - 2019-20
Edwards - 2018-19
I think we need a huge shake up of our experienced heads, but if we're to continue using our young players they'll need time, because they're not as good as some make out. |
The problem we have is that Hurst's signings were generally in the range of 24-25, so are all now 26, 27 and 28 and whilst they should be in their prime just haven't done enough.
So we have probably the right amount of senior players in and around the 18 in Chambers, Ward and Judge
But the players who are at an age that should be in their prime - Gwion Edwards aside - just don't contribute enough - Nsiala, Nolan, Norwood, Holy, Jackson, etc....which means we then have to rely on young players who are by their nature inconsistent or still developing - Woolfie, McGuinness, Downes, Dozzell, etc
And replacing the players who should be in their prime is expensive work |  |
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