| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. 12:43 - Feb 17 with 2493 views | monytowbray |
Usually when two sides play blame and deflection the middle ground is both are sh1t.
Lambert is a 2 year constant, Evans is a 13 year constant. Anyone who's worked in a crap failing business with a poor boss who refuses to listen (been there myself) will tell you it doesn't matter who you recruit if their hands are tied. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:36 - Feb 17 with 338 views | hype313 |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:34 - Feb 17 by rickw |
I don't think Evans could sell the club in this current climate, but what he could do in his usual absence is appoint someone qualified to run the club.
Simon Jordan made a good point on the radio earlier - there's plenty of owners who you never hear from, but they have someone running the club for them - take Spurs, owned by ENIC / Joe Lewis but Daniel Levy runs it. |
Therein lies the problem, from what we have gathered Evans doesn't trust other people to run his business, Joe Lewis clearly places a lot of trust in Levy and you can see why as he is viewed as one of the hardest people to do business with. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:40 - Feb 17 with 324 views | rickw |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:36 - Feb 17 by hype313 |
Therein lies the problem, from what we have gathered Evans doesn't trust other people to run his business, Joe Lewis clearly places a lot of trust in Levy and you can see why as he is viewed as one of the hardest people to do business with. |
Evans has to think - how can someone do any worse than he has in his 13 years!! |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:44 - Feb 17 with 318 views | hype313 |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:40 - Feb 17 by rickw |
Evans has to think - how can someone do any worse than he has in his 13 years!! |
Don't think for one moment Evans planned on being here any longer than 3-5 years at max, his initial process was a quick promotion to then sell the club when we were in the PL.
If you would have said to him before his purchase, you do realise you will still be holding onto to this mothball 13 years later pumping £6m a year in losses, do you still fancy it, I think we can all agree on what the answer would have been... | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:46 - Feb 17 with 317 views | itfcjoe |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:33 - Feb 17 by homer_123 |
Though you are relying on the person responsible for not dealing with the subsidence to deal with a hole in the roof. That person has no idea has to address either issues and is incapable of appointing some who can. |
It's easy to make short term fixes on issues whilst still failing long term - it's why big stately houses run into disrepair.
Just do what needs to be done on a needs must basis |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:52 - Feb 17 with 300 views | davblue |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:13 - Feb 17 by hype313 |
Or Danny Dyer? |
his team talks could include
'wall, is it right or is it wong?' and 'Droppppp ittttttttt' |  | | |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:54 - Feb 17 with 292 views | HighgateBlue |
What is your solution to this problem?
Imagine you persuaded Evans to gift the club to the fans for free, and write off all of the club's debt. What then? I would suggest the problem would have grown bigger by £6m per annum.
So what is your much better idea? |  | | |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 14:28 - Feb 17 with 259 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:54 - Feb 17 by HighgateBlue |
What is your solution to this problem?
Imagine you persuaded Evans to gift the club to the fans for free, and write off all of the club's debt. What then? I would suggest the problem would have grown bigger by £6m per annum.
So what is your much better idea? |
Again, I am one person and not an expert on the matter.
But the first step is the collective accepting our ownership situation and proposing solutions/demands.
I haven't proposed fan ownership for what it's worth, it was just one of many possible potential outcomes.
The solution could be Evans gives up a % of ownership to a supporter's trust, that trust has a democracy and representation within and a say on the board. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 14:30]
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 14:35 - Feb 17 with 239 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 13:36 - Feb 17 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Your tone is disappointing. I'm not an Evans apologist, just pointing out that its easy to suggest removing an owner. Very hard to do.
You could start an action group. |
We* could start an action group. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:03 - Feb 17 with 228 views | Bluedandy |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 14:28 - Feb 17 by monytowbray |
Again, I am one person and not an expert on the matter.
But the first step is the collective accepting our ownership situation and proposing solutions/demands.
I haven't proposed fan ownership for what it's worth, it was just one of many possible potential outcomes.
The solution could be Evans gives up a % of ownership to a supporter's trust, that trust has a democracy and representation within and a say on the board. [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 14:30]
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Evans has to go ... after 13 years as owner he has turned Town into one of England's leading basket case football clubs.
It's truly bizarre how some fans still cling to the wreckage of this failed regime and berate those who say enough is enough.
If Evans takes us into the Vanarama forelock tugging fence sitters will be saying we should be careful what we wish for ... ignore them.
We are an absolute fiasco and it is only going to get worse. Fan ownership is not the solution, but fan protests to force a change of ownership/structure are the way forward.
Doing nothing is not an option. |  | | |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:07 - Feb 17 with 222 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:03 - Feb 17 by Bluedandy |
Evans has to go ... after 13 years as owner he has turned Town into one of England's leading basket case football clubs.
It's truly bizarre how some fans still cling to the wreckage of this failed regime and berate those who say enough is enough.
If Evans takes us into the Vanarama forelock tugging fence sitters will be saying we should be careful what we wish for ... ignore them.
We are an absolute fiasco and it is only going to get worse. Fan ownership is not the solution, but fan protests to force a change of ownership/structure are the way forward.
Doing nothing is not an option. |
He does, agreed.
I understand that Lambert is easier to get rid of, and we need a change there too desperately. That's something that can be done now. But the long game needs to be Evans finding a replacement owner, as this is just getting silly.
The bloke isn't present and on the ball enough to run us. |  |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:08 - Feb 17 with 219 views | reusersfreekicks |
Does Evans stop Lambert organising and coaching the team? No of course not |  | | |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:28 - Feb 17 with 207 views | m14_blue |
Evans is the reason we aren’t in the Premier League.
Lambert is the reason we’re 12th in League One. | | | |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:30 - Feb 17 with 206 views | monytowbray |
| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 15:08 - Feb 17 by reusersfreekicks |
Does Evans stop Lambert organising and coaching the team? No of course not |
No, but micro and macro problems, as said on P1 of this thread.
The two are not mutually exclusive. But one has been a longer constant.
My fear is Evans will pull the trigger and all will be forgiven until the next fiasco, when we repeat the cycle for short term change.
With the biggest hindsight in mind the alarm bells have been going off for years. I've been in denial. As have many others. Arguably most of us. | |
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| Lambert is a problem but Evans is THE problem. on 16:03 - Feb 17 with 192 views | reusersfreekicks |
Ignore -duplicate [Post edited 17 Feb 2021 16:04]
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