| No subject 14:24 - Mar 23 with 12858 views | textbackup |
wont say the name, as if you are on twitter you've probably seen it.
but we'll call him T..... really not a fan of people taking the piss out of him, but even less of a fan that it appears when at a colu game someone, went way too far.... (colu fan, not Ipswich i'll add)
or have I completely mis-read that tweet/video?
im sure others will have seen it. [Post edited 23 Mar 2021 14:33]
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| No subject on 23:10 - Mar 23 with 1864 views | wkj |
| No subject on 22:59 - Mar 23 by CBBlue |
Please read up about autism, it is highly likely he isn't 'perfectly capable' of making those decisions.
I know it's frustrating seeing advice and offers of help being 'ignored' but it's not as simple as that. There's a reason why individuals with ASD are so vunerable to cuckooing. |
I am aware, and I am in no way trying to convey that he deserves what happened to him. However, ' we should view this objectively ' was more toward my point.
If anyone wants to help him, the best way is to befriend him and guide him on twitter, rather than tutting about it on here. I have tried to offer him help on here and on twitter - it is my hope that if others view this objectively, maybe they can succeed where I failed. [Post edited 23 Mar 2021 23:16]
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| No subject on 23:15 - Mar 23 with 1854 views | J2BLUE |
| No subject on 22:59 - Mar 23 by chrismakin |
I wouldn't say I have a blinkered view on it, I base it on the readings of his tweets, threads etc, that it's clear he doesn't have the social capability like most others, so it's ok to say people offered advice etc, but clearly he isn't capable to taking on that advice and is in a very vunerable position to be taken advantage of
My wife supports children and Adults with Autism, some severe, some have it mildly, but she'd never consider those with extreme Autism to be able to socially mix as any other adult would.
( I will say though, well done on the forum fund thing, really nice idea that ) [Post edited 23 Mar 2021 23:00]
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I agree but just want to say wkj was brilliant to him when he needed help. We really tried to get him away from the problem people in his life. We encouraged him to post on here and talk to us instead of be on Twitter. We went all out to help him and sadly he did make the choice to remain on Twitter and in that environment. I don't know how much you know but he used to (maybe still does?) post things like 'i'm worthless, I deserve everything I get' etc.
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| No subject on 23:23 - Mar 23 with 1827 views | wkj |
| No subject on 23:15 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
I agree but just want to say wkj was brilliant to him when he needed help. We really tried to get him away from the problem people in his life. We encouraged him to post on here and talk to us instead of be on Twitter. We went all out to help him and sadly he did make the choice to remain on Twitter and in that environment. I don't know how much you know but he used to (maybe still does?) post things like 'i'm worthless, I deserve everything I get' etc.
Heartbreaking to watch. |
I appreciate the kind words on this. Real me and forum me are somewhat Chalk and Cheese - and I am certainly trying to do more to reign forum me in and be more 'real' about things.
It is heart breaking to see it all happen the way that it does, and I wish there was a magic wand we could wave for him to be safe and happy, as well as to be treated with respect - sadly the human element is an unwieldly beast and has a habit of prompting the most unfortunate of outcomes for people. | |
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| No subject on 23:28 - Mar 23 with 1811 views | Trequartista |
I've seen the video and read the comments here. I would agree the caption is probably not accurately describe what is going on and it is a 'wedgie'.
Where i think i differ from others is that I don't think a 'wedgie' is acceptable either unless all parties are accepting of the joke, and that doesn't look the case here. Can you imagine if this was a female victim ? It would be sexual assault. Without all parties being fully accepting of it being horseplay, i don't see the difference. |  |
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| No subject on 23:32 - Mar 23 with 1785 views | chrismakin |
| No subject on 23:15 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
I agree but just want to say wkj was brilliant to him when he needed help. We really tried to get him away from the problem people in his life. We encouraged him to post on here and talk to us instead of be on Twitter. We went all out to help him and sadly he did make the choice to remain on Twitter and in that environment. I don't know how much you know but he used to (maybe still does?) post things like 'i'm worthless, I deserve everything I get' etc.
Heartbreaking to watch. |
I've just had a run through on here and twitter etc, you are spot on it's heartbreaking. Well done WKJ and yourself J2 and all others who have tried. Wish there was something else that could be done, but without a 24 hour personal carer it's near impossible to guide him it seems. |  |
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| No subject on 00:04 - Mar 24 with 1775 views | matt92 |
Long time TWTD lurker, just made a new account as my old one seems to have been disabled due to inactivity.
I went to the same school as T during the final 2 years of secondary school - at a Pupil Referral Unit - a school for kids who don't get on well in mainstream schools
Yes, he is autistic and very vulnerable. He is very easily led and seeks validation and friendship from others to a point where he will do absolutely anything for "friendship".
For a few years following high school I used to repeatedly receive messages from him on facebook where he was basically desperate to stay in touch and be friends. We didn't always get along at school but for the most part I looked out for him.
I've read through this thread and seen the stuff on twitter - absolutely none of it surprises me, unfortunately - including the people taking advantage of him, his apparent refusal to take on advice and his switching between loving and hating ITFC/TWTD/COLU/fans of both.
I just wanted to let everyone here know that I will reach out to him, I don't expect him to take on any advice from me any better than he has from anybody else, but I'm fairly sure I can also get in touch with his parents to see if anything further can be done, as has been mentioned here - social services, police, etc.
If I get anywhere with it I will keep you all posted. |  | | |
| No subject on 00:12 - Mar 24 with 1751 views | J2BLUE |
| No subject on 00:04 - Mar 24 by matt92 |
Long time TWTD lurker, just made a new account as my old one seems to have been disabled due to inactivity.
I went to the same school as T during the final 2 years of secondary school - at a Pupil Referral Unit - a school for kids who don't get on well in mainstream schools
Yes, he is autistic and very vulnerable. He is very easily led and seeks validation and friendship from others to a point where he will do absolutely anything for "friendship".
For a few years following high school I used to repeatedly receive messages from him on facebook where he was basically desperate to stay in touch and be friends. We didn't always get along at school but for the most part I looked out for him.
I've read through this thread and seen the stuff on twitter - absolutely none of it surprises me, unfortunately - including the people taking advantage of him, his apparent refusal to take on advice and his switching between loving and hating ITFC/TWTD/COLU/fans of both.
I just wanted to let everyone here know that I will reach out to him, I don't expect him to take on any advice from me any better than he has from anybody else, but I'm fairly sure I can also get in touch with his parents to see if anything further can be done, as has been mentioned here - social services, police, etc.
If I get anywhere with it I will keep you all posted. |
Top man, thank you. | |
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| No subject on 00:13 - Mar 24 with 1752 views | wkj |
| No subject on 00:04 - Mar 24 by matt92 |
Long time TWTD lurker, just made a new account as my old one seems to have been disabled due to inactivity.
I went to the same school as T during the final 2 years of secondary school - at a Pupil Referral Unit - a school for kids who don't get on well in mainstream schools
Yes, he is autistic and very vulnerable. He is very easily led and seeks validation and friendship from others to a point where he will do absolutely anything for "friendship".
For a few years following high school I used to repeatedly receive messages from him on facebook where he was basically desperate to stay in touch and be friends. We didn't always get along at school but for the most part I looked out for him.
I've read through this thread and seen the stuff on twitter - absolutely none of it surprises me, unfortunately - including the people taking advantage of him, his apparent refusal to take on advice and his switching between loving and hating ITFC/TWTD/COLU/fans of both.
I just wanted to let everyone here know that I will reach out to him, I don't expect him to take on any advice from me any better than he has from anybody else, but I'm fairly sure I can also get in touch with his parents to see if anything further can be done, as has been mentioned here - social services, police, etc.
If I get anywhere with it I will keep you all posted. |
Cheers Matt. From the outside looking in, Twitter has been a living hell for him, yet also an addicting release. I hope he can find a safe and friendly space. | |
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| No subject on 01:34 - Mar 24 with 1701 views | dominiciawful |
Twitter can be such an utter cesspit. |  |
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| No subject on 09:05 - Mar 24 with 1542 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| No subject on 14:25 - Mar 23 by footers |
Jesus. That bloke needs to come off Twitter, but how many times have we said that and he doesn't listen. Someone needs to help him. |
Don’t get me wrong I agree that he doesn’t help himself with some things he tweets. But you’re pretty much saying what went on in that video is his own fault because he “needs to get off Twitter” which doesn’t seem too fair.
Agree that he needs help, just need to be careful not to blame the victim for abuse like this. |  | | |
| No subject on 09:48 - Mar 24 with 1508 views | RobTheMonk |
Decided to go down the Twitter rabbit hole for 5 minutes. Realised this is why I hate Twitter in 5 seconds. |  | | |
| No subject on 10:27 - Mar 24 with 1449 views | wkj |
| No subject on 09:05 - Mar 24 by Matt_Netherlands |
Don’t get me wrong I agree that he doesn’t help himself with some things he tweets. But you’re pretty much saying what went on in that video is his own fault because he “needs to get off Twitter” which doesn’t seem too fair.
Agree that he needs help, just need to be careful not to blame the victim for abuse like this. |
Not a single word of that statement suggests it is his own fault. You don't have to dig too deep to know what footers is about. Like others, Footers is sad for him because we have tried to help him realise how toxic the banter is - and we're frustrated with ourselves that we couldn't help him avoid this abuse. | |
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| No subject on 10:34 - Mar 24 with 1435 views | footers |
| No subject on 10:27 - Mar 24 by wkj |
Not a single word of that statement suggests it is his own fault. You don't have to dig too deep to know what footers is about. Like others, Footers is sad for him because we have tried to help him realise how toxic the banter is - and we're frustrated with ourselves that we couldn't help him avoid this abuse. |
Thanks, me old fruit. Indeed, I didn't mean anything like 'he deserves it' or what have you, more that it would be better for his mental wellbeing if he wasn't subjected to ridicule by a bunch of boys not old enough to shave on the old Tw@ttersphere. I'm not saying he shouldn't use it either but should certainly be careful about how he puts himself out there.
As you say, wkj, we have tried and it has been extremely frustrating watching him work himself up and being exploited by these tossers. But hopefully Matt on this thread can reach out to get him some real world help. |  |
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| No subject on 11:45 - Mar 24 with 1374 views | SuperCoops |
| No subject on 09:05 - Mar 24 by Matt_Netherlands |
Don’t get me wrong I agree that he doesn’t help himself with some things he tweets. But you’re pretty much saying what went on in that video is his own fault because he “needs to get off Twitter” which doesn’t seem too fair.
Agree that he needs help, just need to be careful not to blame the victim for abuse like this. |
I'm puzzled. How are you making that from his post? I don't read it as him saying it's T's fault. |  | | |
| No subject on 11:53 - Mar 24 with 1354 views | J2BLUE |
| No subject on 09:05 - Mar 24 by Matt_Netherlands |
Don’t get me wrong I agree that he doesn’t help himself with some things he tweets. But you’re pretty much saying what went on in that video is his own fault because he “needs to get off Twitter” which doesn’t seem too fair.
Agree that he needs help, just need to be careful not to blame the victim for abuse like this. |
What part of he needs some help is blaming him?
Twitter is a terrible idea for him. | |
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