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Voter ID 08:48 - May 11 with 9141 viewsGuthrum

Not seen this discussed on here. The Government will be bringing in legislation requiring photo ID in order to vote in person. That's all well and good for those with a driving licence and/or a passport.

But there needs to be a cheap and easily accessible scheme for those who do not have either. Many of such people will be the poor or the elderly (who may have not renewed the ones they had). Those groups are also the least internet accessible. Otherwise you are effectively dienfranchising those people or, at the very least, putting a price upon the ability to vote.

Such a scheme of voting photo ID would have to be very affordable, even for those on benefits (subsidised, even), easy to access (both on- and offline) and secure (something these things have not always been).

All this in the name of eradicating something which is an infinitesimally small problem (one conviction for impersonatin at a polling station in the 2017 election: https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdf_file/Fraud-allega ). Presumably because they think introducing a national ID card system would create too much of a row (again).

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Voter ID on 22:20 - May 13 with 752 viewsLord_Lucan

Voter ID on 20:15 - May 13 by Ewan_Oozami

If they copy what they did in NI, which lost 10% of registered voters after the id card came into force, if the same % applies, the UK would lose approx 4.5 MILLION potential voters off the electoral roll.....


Is that 10% of voters or 100% of fraudulent or double voters?

I don't know, I suspect no one really does.

I was never a fan of an ID card when it was suggested a few years back but probably because I was worried in case I wanted to get up to an act of no good.

Now I'm old I don't really care, although the libertarian in me is still against it.

Mind you, after 5 pages of sh1te this isn't what is being suggested is it? A blooming bus or library card would suffice but everyone is screaming about £70 passports and poor old Dolly down the road who probably doesn't give a feck or votes by post anyway.

And in any case, isn't it being tabled that you can get a free photo voters card?

Talk about arguing for the sake of it!

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Voter ID on 22:31 - May 13 with 733 viewsHARRY10

'arguing for the sake of it'

thankfully that is not something you could be accused of on here
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Voter ID on 22:35 - May 13 with 730 viewsHotShotHamish

Voter ID on 20:08 - May 13 by HARRY10

I appreciate that being a righty you will regularly get things wrong,but even you should have been able to grasp that the pi ss take was in the context of Johnsons numerous other dodgy dealings...which are currently under investigation

but well done, not every rightie is so fixated on trying to defend his 'betters'


"reasonable grounds” to suspect multiple offences may have been committed" refurbishment bungs

lobbying for the Saudis to buy NUFC

"The UK's sleaze watchdog is investigating whether Boris Johnson broke parliamentary rules amid conflicting accounts over who paid for a £15,000 holiday he took

failing to declare part ownership of a house in Somerset

failing to declare outside earnings

160,000 donation he trousered for a supposed game of tennis with Mrs Chernukhin, whose husband Vladimir was deputy finance minister under Mr Putin

" “Our investigation will consider whether Boris Johnson conducted himself in a way that’s expected from anyone in that position,” Floozygate


the above is the context, one that suggests fatboy has not been scrupulously honest, and that various monies seem to find themselves 'merely resting' in his back pocket


You sound as desperate as a tabloid journalist, merely peddling other people's allegations. Time will tell who is correct but already some of your lurid slurs have been proven to be lies.

Let's face it, you're just a tory basher who acts as though they are a minority party supported by a few bigots, rather than a party with an 80 seat majority, voted for by millions.

So many with your political leanings believe they operate on a higher moral plain, when in reality there are far more instances of illegality from labour politicians.

Most of your posts are similar in that they are full of opinion masquerading as facts but that is par for the course with most socialists.

Enjoy your anti-tory rants, I find it entertaining that us Conservatives wind you up so much.
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(No subject) (n/t) on 01:51 - May 14 with 699 viewsHotShotHamish

Voter ID on 20:08 - May 13 by HARRY10

I appreciate that being a righty you will regularly get things wrong,but even you should have been able to grasp that the pi ss take was in the context of Johnsons numerous other dodgy dealings...which are currently under investigation

but well done, not every rightie is so fixated on trying to defend his 'betters'


"reasonable grounds” to suspect multiple offences may have been committed" refurbishment bungs

lobbying for the Saudis to buy NUFC

"The UK's sleaze watchdog is investigating whether Boris Johnson broke parliamentary rules amid conflicting accounts over who paid for a £15,000 holiday he took

failing to declare part ownership of a house in Somerset

failing to declare outside earnings

160,000 donation he trousered for a supposed game of tennis with Mrs Chernukhin, whose husband Vladimir was deputy finance minister under Mr Putin

" “Our investigation will consider whether Boris Johnson conducted himself in a way that’s expected from anyone in that position,” Floozygate


the above is the context, one that suggests fatboy has not been scrupulously honest, and that various monies seem to find themselves 'merely resting' in his back pocket


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(No subject) (n/t) on 02:31 - May 14 with 696 viewsSpruceMoose

(No subject) (n/t) on 01:51 - May 14 by HotShotHamish



Blub!

Crying so hard you accidently mashed the post button too many times

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Voter ID on 05:26 - May 14 with 690 viewsm14_blue

Voter ID on 22:20 - May 13 by Lord_Lucan

Is that 10% of voters or 100% of fraudulent or double voters?

I don't know, I suspect no one really does.

I was never a fan of an ID card when it was suggested a few years back but probably because I was worried in case I wanted to get up to an act of no good.

Now I'm old I don't really care, although the libertarian in me is still against it.

Mind you, after 5 pages of sh1te this isn't what is being suggested is it? A blooming bus or library card would suffice but everyone is screaming about £70 passports and poor old Dolly down the road who probably doesn't give a feck or votes by post anyway.

And in any case, isn't it being tabled that you can get a free photo voters card?

Talk about arguing for the sake of it!


If it’s a free card then I don’t have a problem with it at all.

It would be a strange way to spend public money but, let’s face it, there are far more egregious examples of that recently.
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Voter ID on 08:19 - May 14 with 663 viewsHARRY10

Voter ID on 22:35 - May 13 by HotShotHamish

You sound as desperate as a tabloid journalist, merely peddling other people's allegations. Time will tell who is correct but already some of your lurid slurs have been proven to be lies.

Let's face it, you're just a tory basher who acts as though they are a minority party supported by a few bigots, rather than a party with an 80 seat majority, voted for by millions.

So many with your political leanings believe they operate on a higher moral plain, when in reality there are far more instances of illegality from labour politicians.

Most of your posts are similar in that they are full of opinion masquerading as facts but that is par for the course with most socialists.

Enjoy your anti-tory rants, I find it entertaining that us Conservatives wind you up so much.


Or in the real world the enquiries are still ongoing, in the case of the supposed tennis match fat boy did trouser the money,

did try to hide up earnings and a share in a house - leading to "The Commons standards committee said the former foreign secretary had breached rules by failing to declare a financial interest "

did intervene to help the Saudis "Johnson asked Edward Lister, his special envoy for the Gulf, to take up the issue, and Lord Lister reportedly told the prime minister: “I’m on the case. I will investigate.”

not too good at this are you Tory boy - still I am sure you will be rewarded for your grovelling, maybe not a big contract, or even a bauble, but I am sure a few more crumbs from masters table might fall your way
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Voter ID on 08:24 - May 14 with 661 viewsHerbivore

Voter ID on 22:35 - May 13 by HotShotHamish

You sound as desperate as a tabloid journalist, merely peddling other people's allegations. Time will tell who is correct but already some of your lurid slurs have been proven to be lies.

Let's face it, you're just a tory basher who acts as though they are a minority party supported by a few bigots, rather than a party with an 80 seat majority, voted for by millions.

So many with your political leanings believe they operate on a higher moral plain, when in reality there are far more instances of illegality from labour politicians.

Most of your posts are similar in that they are full of opinion masquerading as facts but that is par for the course with most socialists.

Enjoy your anti-tory rants, I find it entertaining that us Conservatives wind you up so much.


The troll farm you're employed by must be a really sh!t one. Even Paz makes very occasional posts about the football club, you don't even bother to pretend you're interested in ITFC. Are you even making Russian minimum wage? Maybe get yourself an education and see if you can improve your station in life.

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(No subject) (n/t) on 19:29 - May 14 with 586 viewsHotShotHamish

Voter ID on 20:08 - May 13 by HARRY10

I appreciate that being a righty you will regularly get things wrong,but even you should have been able to grasp that the pi ss take was in the context of Johnsons numerous other dodgy dealings...which are currently under investigation

but well done, not every rightie is so fixated on trying to defend his 'betters'


"reasonable grounds” to suspect multiple offences may have been committed" refurbishment bungs

lobbying for the Saudis to buy NUFC

"The UK's sleaze watchdog is investigating whether Boris Johnson broke parliamentary rules amid conflicting accounts over who paid for a £15,000 holiday he took

failing to declare part ownership of a house in Somerset

failing to declare outside earnings

160,000 donation he trousered for a supposed game of tennis with Mrs Chernukhin, whose husband Vladimir was deputy finance minister under Mr Putin

" “Our investigation will consider whether Boris Johnson conducted himself in a way that’s expected from anyone in that position,” Floozygate


the above is the context, one that suggests fatboy has not been scrupulously honest, and that various monies seem to find themselves 'merely resting' in his back pocket


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Voter ID on 01:04 - May 15 with 554 viewsHARRY10

"The UK's sleaze watchdog is investigating whether Boris Johnson broke parliamentary rules amid conflicting accounts over who paid for a £15,000 holiday he took"

the above is the context, one that suggests fatboy has not been scrupulously honest, and that various monies seem to find themselves 'merely resting' in his back pocket


"Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards Kathryn Stone has said the Prime Minister's break was worth more than twice the £15,000 he declared in the Commons Register.

And she said it was clear the bill had not been met by Tory donor and Carphone Warehouse co-founder David Ross, as the Prime Minister claimed."

"The name of the donor and the value of the benefit he had entered in the Commons Register of Financial Interests were incorrect, she said, meaning he was in breach of Westminster's code of conduct."

so cue the howls of outrage as the righties claim that it is all so unfair that an habitual liar and sleaze merchant is being pursued over a holiday he took

when in reality, as with flat refurbishment, fat boy is refusing to come clean and say who paid for the holiday.... lest we put two and two together and learn what was given in return, a heck of a lot more than a peerage I would venture

and as if by some powers of foresight we have tonight

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(No subject) (n/t) on 10:15 - May 15 with 512 viewsHotShotHamish

Voter ID on 20:08 - May 13 by HARRY10

I appreciate that being a righty you will regularly get things wrong,but even you should have been able to grasp that the pi ss take was in the context of Johnsons numerous other dodgy dealings...which are currently under investigation

but well done, not every rightie is so fixated on trying to defend his 'betters'


"reasonable grounds” to suspect multiple offences may have been committed" refurbishment bungs

lobbying for the Saudis to buy NUFC

"The UK's sleaze watchdog is investigating whether Boris Johnson broke parliamentary rules amid conflicting accounts over who paid for a £15,000 holiday he took

failing to declare part ownership of a house in Somerset

failing to declare outside earnings

160,000 donation he trousered for a supposed game of tennis with Mrs Chernukhin, whose husband Vladimir was deputy finance minister under Mr Putin

" “Our investigation will consider whether Boris Johnson conducted himself in a way that’s expected from anyone in that position,” Floozygate


the above is the context, one that suggests fatboy has not been scrupulously honest, and that various monies seem to find themselves 'merely resting' in his back pocket


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Voter ID on 10:24 - May 15 with 506 viewsHerbivore

Think the bot has glitched.

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