| GB News 22:02 - Jun 13 with 7520 views | tractordownsouth |
Anyone tune in to their big launch? I watched bits and bobs flicking between the Netherlands game and it looked like a total car crash. Andrew Neil's opening monologue seemed OK and he's clearly a decent broadcaster but the rest of the stuff was dire. Dan Wootton spent his slot spouting covid conspiracies. There were some appearances from Alison Pearson (who claimed in March 2020 that young people would be too selfish to follow lockdown, yet has spent the last year moaning about restrictions) and Carol Malone. By all accounts, much of the programme was spent shouting "woke" and "cancel culture" at anything and everything. Shambles.
And despite all that, Darren Grimes still can't get a job there!
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| GB News on 14:58 - Jun 16 with 1351 views | positivity |
| GB News on 14:22 - Jun 16 by wkj |
Election results of the last decade seem to suggest that it is. Tory party getting stronger despite what would have been seen as a series of scandals years ago, The Brexit referendum was built on a pack of lies (on both sides - admittedly), tossers like Trump giving rise to domestic terrorism in place of democracy.
We're hinging on an era of hate and social segregation. |
serial winners for sure, but based on c45% and less of the vote, so clinging to the hope that there might be a progressive majority still out there
it's a worry for sure, was hoping the decline of newspaper readership might level the playing field a bit, but the rise of populism and fake news has put paid to that... |  |
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| GB News on 14:58 - Jun 16 with 1351 views | Oldsmoker |
| GB News on 14:22 - Jun 16 by wkj |
Election results of the last decade seem to suggest that it is. Tory party getting stronger despite what would have been seen as a series of scandals years ago, The Brexit referendum was built on a pack of lies (on both sides - admittedly), tossers like Trump giving rise to domestic terrorism in place of democracy.
We're hinging on an era of hate and social segregation. |
"We're hinging on an era of hate and social segregation."
I agree, but hopefully I'll be dead when it all kicks off.
Already checking funeral plans and the cheapest seems to be a firm called Bojo & Gove Glue Factory. |  |
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| GB News on 15:50 - Jun 16 with 1287 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 14:22 - Jun 16 by wkj |
Election results of the last decade seem to suggest that it is. Tory party getting stronger despite what would have been seen as a series of scandals years ago, The Brexit referendum was built on a pack of lies (on both sides - admittedly), tossers like Trump giving rise to domestic terrorism in place of democracy.
We're hinging on an era of hate and social segregation. |
Lies on both sides - utter nonsense !
The lies and misleading claims came from one side, and one side only
Whereas the warnings from the other side are now being proved correct regularly | | | |
| GB News on 15:56 - Jun 16 with 1278 views | wkj |
| GB News on 15:50 - Jun 16 by HARRY10 |
Lies on both sides - utter nonsense !
The lies and misleading claims came from one side, and one side only
Whereas the warnings from the other side are now being proved correct regularly |
I won't go down the tribal route here - to say both sides of the official Leave/Remain groups were squeaky clean is ridiculous. Both campaigns centred heavily around proving the other option as bad, rather than the option they represented as good. |  |
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| GB News on 15:57 - Jun 16 with 1273 views | tractordownsouth |
| GB News on 09:19 - Jun 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Slightly more sinister turn from GB News
Oh and they went full anti-vaxxer this morning too |
I saw that clip - it was in response to being asked whether Meghan or Andrew has tarnished the royal brand more.
To be fair, GB News did promise to be a change from the Status Quo and "Is it worse to be black or an alleged paedophile?" certainly is a unique line of questioning. | |
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| GB News on 16:43 - Jun 16 with 1217 views | bluelagos |
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| GB News on 16:52 - Jun 16 with 1181 views | jaykay |
| GB News on 11:07 - Jun 14 by HARRY10 |
If, as it suggests, it will not be any rolling news coverage and just assorted nutters spouting biased and doubtlessly factually inaccurate opinion then who but the most crazed will want to sit and watch the likes of Roger Daltrey ranting about his pet grievance, along with a host of similarly minded fruitcakes doing likewise.
Churning out the same biased guff hour after hour on the basis that
‘we won’t hold back’ from reporting when things go wrong in the country, they will not ‘come at every story with a conviction that Britain is always at fault, usually to blame when things go wrong, generally useless’
will soon bore even the most dedicated bigot.
These cranks read the Mail and Express to get themselves wound up, seething in a vat of their own bile. In the dead certainty that the world around them is a conspiracy to 'do them down' and political correctness* is its tool whereby unwarranted favour is shown to those who are not 'normal' ie them
It will fail, or have to dramatically change very quickly
* don't you mean 'woke' - do keep up on what the current slogan is painted on the barn wall |
if g.b. news had been on about back in the day i expect oswald mosley, john tyndall and nick griffin would have been on ,spouting on about jews and muslims |  |
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| GB News on 19:25 - Jun 16 with 1113 views | Swansea_Blue |
It's all pretty puerile stuff, but it is rather amusing. Their format opens itself up to giving airtime to the opinions of jokers (that's their business model after all). |  |
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| GB News on 19:30 - Jun 16 with 1100 views | Darth_Koont |
| GB News on 19:25 - Jun 16 by Swansea_Blue |
It's all pretty puerile stuff, but it is rather amusing. Their format opens itself up to giving airtime to the opinions of jokers (that's their business model after all). |
There’s an opinion that being amateur hour and (with much fanfare and bluster) dragging debate to this level suits their backers down to the ground.
It’s the sort of chaotic disruption that prevents people looking more closely at where the country is heading and into whose pockets. |  |
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| GB News on 08:33 - Jun 17 with 994 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 19:30 - Jun 16 by Darth_Koont |
There’s an opinion that being amateur hour and (with much fanfare and bluster) dragging debate to this level suits their backers down to the ground.
It’s the sort of chaotic disruption that prevents people looking more closely at where the country is heading and into whose pockets. |
I appreciate where you are coming from on that, however this blundering shambles that is Lord Haw Haw re-incarnated is likely to stop many from looking at it - bar the cranks, bur jobs and fundamentalists who need their regular fix.
I'm sure those investing would have been looking at a financial return rather than something which was only ever going to be preaching to the converted.
Whatever amount they had calculated, they will have had to re-do their calculations very quickly this week when it was shown how quickly sponsors and advertisers have reacted to the reality of this BBC (Bigots Broadcasting Company).
Expect more companies to distance themselves further as this ragbag of racists and homophobes are given airtime. | | | |
| GB News on 09:29 - Jun 17 with 945 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 15:50 - Jun 16 by HARRY10 |
Lies on both sides - utter nonsense !
The lies and misleading claims came from one side, and one side only
Whereas the warnings from the other side are now being proved correct regularly |
Yes, just look at the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen for instance. |  |
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| GB News on 09:46 - Jun 17 with 918 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 09:29 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
Yes, just look at the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen for instance. |
Please quote where the four named spoke of "the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit"
In the meantime I will point out how on 4th August 2016 the Bank of England had to introduce
"A cut in official interest rates to 0.25%, the first such move since March 2009;
Plans to pump an additional £60bn in electronic cash into the economy to buy government bonds, extending the existing quantitative easing (QE) programme to £435bn in total;
Another £10bn in electronic cash to buy corporate bonds from firms “making a material contribution to the UK economy”;
As much as £100bn of new funding to banks to help them pass on the base rate cut. Under this new “term funding scheme” (TFS) the Bank will create new money to provide loans to banks at interest rates close to the base rate of 0.25%. The scheme will charge a penalty rate if banks do not lend;
The growth forecast for the UK for next year was slashed by an unprecedented amount. Growth would come to a near-standstill over coming months and be much weaker in 2017 and 2018 than predicted before the Brexit vote."
In addition perhaps you might care to explain what would have happened to the UK economy had that pretty drastic intervention not been put in force ? [Post edited 17 Jun 2021 10:10]
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| GB News on 10:57 - Jun 17 with 876 views | Tractor_Buck |
And yeah, it's puerile, but props to Wrestling expert and all round good egg Adam Pacitti for managing to get away with this:
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| GB News on 11:05 - Jun 17 with 856 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 09:46 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
Please quote where the four named spoke of "the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit"
In the meantime I will point out how on 4th August 2016 the Bank of England had to introduce
"A cut in official interest rates to 0.25%, the first such move since March 2009;
Plans to pump an additional £60bn in electronic cash into the economy to buy government bonds, extending the existing quantitative easing (QE) programme to £435bn in total;
Another £10bn in electronic cash to buy corporate bonds from firms “making a material contribution to the UK economy”;
As much as £100bn of new funding to banks to help them pass on the base rate cut. Under this new “term funding scheme” (TFS) the Bank will create new money to provide loans to banks at interest rates close to the base rate of 0.25%. The scheme will charge a penalty rate if banks do not lend;
The growth forecast for the UK for next year was slashed by an unprecedented amount. Growth would come to a near-standstill over coming months and be much weaker in 2017 and 2018 than predicted before the Brexit vote."
In addition perhaps you might care to explain what would have happened to the UK economy had that pretty drastic intervention not been put in force ? [Post edited 17 Jun 2021 10:10]
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Who knows Hazza? Neither you nor me that’s for sure. But if you think the august body of men mentioned didn’t make those predictions then you can’t have been paying attention. | |
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| GB News on 11:13 - Jun 17 with 826 views | jeera |
| GB News on 09:29 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
Yes, just look at the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen for instance. |
You would have thought that if the PM himself along with his own Chancellor thought it was a bad idea, that they may have come together to discuss all the possible outcomes before proposing the referendum.
Quite remarkable to put the concept forward and then speak of possible European wars and the like afterwards.
It was they, the initial instigators, who started this 'Project Fear' nonsense that got seized upon by so many of the pro-leaves and gave them some of the ammunition they then relied on.
That's the biggest shame for me, that those who tried to make some sensible observations and discuss the possible downsides were drowned out by the mockery of their rhetoric. |  |
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| GB News on 11:28 - Jun 17 with 785 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 11:13 - Jun 17 by jeera |
You would have thought that if the PM himself along with his own Chancellor thought it was a bad idea, that they may have come together to discuss all the possible outcomes before proposing the referendum.
Quite remarkable to put the concept forward and then speak of possible European wars and the like afterwards.
It was they, the initial instigators, who started this 'Project Fear' nonsense that got seized upon by so many of the pro-leaves and gave them some of the ammunition they then relied on.
That's the biggest shame for me, that those who tried to make some sensible observations and discuss the possible downsides were drowned out by the mockery of their rhetoric. |
In your first point I think you need to remember the context the referendum was being agreed within; Cameron was I believe not confident he would win the election outright in 2015 & thought another coalition was incoming: and he was getting gimped by Farage and leaking support to UKIP across the board. I also think Cameron et al are just arrogant enough at that point to think all they needed to do was turn up and their side would win the referendum easily but that’s my opinion.
I agree with your other points entirely. Nonetheless that’s what they said, house prices would crash and the economy would crater IMMEDIATELY. So they did themselves and everyone else no favours at all. | |
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| GB News on 11:30 - Jun 17 with 781 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 11:05 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
Who knows Hazza? Neither you nor me that’s for sure. But if you think the august body of men mentioned didn’t make those predictions then you can’t have been paying attention. |
I think we can know, as the economy has slowly receded ever since, we can be certain therefore that it would have been far worse without that intervention.
And it is not about what I think, in this respect' it is about you backing what you claimed. Something others will note you are unable to do.
The reason there being they never made the statement you claim. That is just a lie you brexiteers continue to peddle, as with
Liam Fox: "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history"
Gerard Batten "A trade deal with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee"
Paul Nuttal: "It will be so easy to negotiate a trade deal, and of course, it's in the European Union's interest, just as it is in ours"
Michael Gove said that 'we'd hold all the cards' after leaving the European Union
Boris Johnson. "There will be no non-tariff barriers to trade"
Jacob Rees-Mogg: "The UK will be a better destination for investors once we have left the EU "
Rather telling that I could so easily find examples of leading brexiteers lying, where you have to rely on making things up.
Rather encapsulates the whole debate, some might say. | | | |
| GB News on 11:39 - Jun 17 with 767 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 11:30 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
I think we can know, as the economy has slowly receded ever since, we can be certain therefore that it would have been far worse without that intervention.
And it is not about what I think, in this respect' it is about you backing what you claimed. Something others will note you are unable to do.
The reason there being they never made the statement you claim. That is just a lie you brexiteers continue to peddle, as with
Liam Fox: "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history"
Gerard Batten "A trade deal with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee"
Paul Nuttal: "It will be so easy to negotiate a trade deal, and of course, it's in the European Union's interest, just as it is in ours"
Michael Gove said that 'we'd hold all the cards' after leaving the European Union
Boris Johnson. "There will be no non-tariff barriers to trade"
Jacob Rees-Mogg: "The UK will be a better destination for investors once we have left the EU "
Rather telling that I could so easily find examples of leading brexiteers lying, where you have to rely on making things up.
Rather encapsulates the whole debate, some might say. |
Hazza sorry I don’t know how to do italics;
“This paper focuses on the immediate economic impact of a vote to leave and the two years that follow.
A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000, GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower”
Guess who put their names to that?
I’m not a Brexiter Hazza and I voted Remain. | |
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| GB News on 11:39 - Jun 17 with 763 views | Swansea_Blue |
| GB News on 09:46 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
Please quote where the four named spoke of "the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit"
In the meantime I will point out how on 4th August 2016 the Bank of England had to introduce
"A cut in official interest rates to 0.25%, the first such move since March 2009;
Plans to pump an additional £60bn in electronic cash into the economy to buy government bonds, extending the existing quantitative easing (QE) programme to £435bn in total;
Another £10bn in electronic cash to buy corporate bonds from firms “making a material contribution to the UK economy”;
As much as £100bn of new funding to banks to help them pass on the base rate cut. Under this new “term funding scheme” (TFS) the Bank will create new money to provide loans to banks at interest rates close to the base rate of 0.25%. The scheme will charge a penalty rate if banks do not lend;
The growth forecast for the UK for next year was slashed by an unprecedented amount. Growth would come to a near-standstill over coming months and be much weaker in 2017 and 2018 than predicted before the Brexit vote."
In addition perhaps you might care to explain what would have happened to the UK economy had that pretty drastic intervention not been put in force ? [Post edited 17 Jun 2021 10:10]
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Plus Government's own figures forecasted multi-percent drop in GDP once the details of the separation were known.
'Project fear' got some things wrong, for sure. Employment levels remained higher than some people were forecasting, for example. But the general direction of travel (downwards) was quite correct. | |
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| GB News on 12:04 - Jun 17 with 724 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 11:39 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
Hazza sorry I don’t know how to do italics;
“This paper focuses on the immediate economic impact of a vote to leave and the two years that follow.
A vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000, GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower”
Guess who put their names to that?
I’m not a Brexiter Hazza and I voted Remain. |
Their names ?
It is listed as being words from Geirge Osborne ...... and I can put things into italics and add
He was assuming Article 50, the process by which the UK leaves, would be triggered immediately after the vote; in the event, it was nine months later.
So we now have that the four you listed, did not state what you claimed.
The huge intervention by the B of England was needed to keep the economy afloat. And rather negated Osborne's words
Or perhaps you have some other explanation as to why interest rates were cut to their lowest level ever, and billions had to be pumped into the economy. Myself, I prefer the BoEs governor Mark Carney's view
"Early economic indicators suggest confidence among businesses and households slumped after the June referendum and that a slowdown in spending threatens to tip the UK into recession." | | | |
| GB News on 12:18 - Jun 17 with 698 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 12:04 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
Their names ?
It is listed as being words from Geirge Osborne ...... and I can put things into italics and add
He was assuming Article 50, the process by which the UK leaves, would be triggered immediately after the vote; in the event, it was nine months later.
So we now have that the four you listed, did not state what you claimed.
The huge intervention by the B of England was needed to keep the economy afloat. And rather negated Osborne's words
Or perhaps you have some other explanation as to why interest rates were cut to their lowest level ever, and billions had to be pumped into the economy. Myself, I prefer the BoEs governor Mark Carney's view
"Early economic indicators suggest confidence among businesses and households slumped after the June referendum and that a slowdown in spending threatens to tip the UK into recession." |
You seem to be trying to shift the argument now. You said the lies and misleading claims only came from one side and I have demonstrated you’re wrong. | |
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| GB News on 12:47 - Jun 17 with 660 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 12:18 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
You seem to be trying to shift the argument now. You said the lies and misleading claims only came from one side and I have demonstrated you’re wrong. |
You making up quotes is not demonstrating anything, other than the obvious.
Now why not provide some evidence of your claim " the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen",or
"Guess who put their names to that?" tell us who these names were who put their names to that comment made by George Osborne.
Or could it be that none of those four ever said what you claim, and it was only Osborne who spoke those words ? | | | |
| GB News on 13:00 - Jun 17 with 640 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 12:47 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
You making up quotes is not demonstrating anything, other than the obvious.
Now why not provide some evidence of your claim " the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen",or
"Guess who put their names to that?" tell us who these names were who put their names to that comment made by George Osborne.
Or could it be that none of those four ever said what you claim, and it was only Osborne who spoke those words ? |
Hazza you do know the PM is also First Lord of the Treasury right? And what quotes have I “made up”? And your last sentence is a contradiction in terms. Apart from all that your usual lunacy is going very well. | |
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| GB News on 13:14 - Jun 17 with 612 views | HARRY10 |
| GB News on 13:00 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
Hazza you do know the PM is also First Lord of the Treasury right? And what quotes have I “made up”? And your last sentence is a contradiction in terms. Apart from all that your usual lunacy is going very well. |
Made up quote
" the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen"
No contradiction as they are the words as put up by you, being a direct quote from Osborne - to which you added "Guess who put their names to that? "
I have no idea why you stated "the PM is also First Lord of the Treasury " - and I suspect you don't either. Nor have we been told who those names are we are to guess at. | | | |
| GB News on 13:19 - Jun 17 with 600 views | chicoazul |
| GB News on 13:14 - Jun 17 by HARRY10 |
Made up quote
" the immediate collapse of the economy after Brexit that Cameron Osborne Major and Blair told us would definitely happen"
No contradiction as they are the words as put up by you, being a direct quote from Osborne - to which you added "Guess who put their names to that? "
I have no idea why you stated "the PM is also First Lord of the Treasury " - and I suspect you don't either. Nor have we been told who those names are we are to guess at. |
Hazza that means that Cameron put his name to it too. | |
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