| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:08 - Jun 15 with 737 views | jeera |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 14:57 - Jun 15 by m14_blue |
Presumably the people applying for these jobs are out of work, so where are they supposed to be getting furlough payments from? |
Quite.
He quite clearly says there has been no shortage of applicants.
It just seems once the applicants learn the finer details of what's expected for the return they change their minds sharpish.
He's exploiting people and for some reason cannot see it, despite saying it out loud. |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:13 - Jun 15 with 722 views | itfcjoe |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 14:31 - Jun 15 by HARRY10 |
The problem with the minimum wage is it rarely improves the lot of the employee, it just means far less of the cost falls on the state.
If sh itbags like him could get away with paying a fiver an hour, it would just mean the state would have to make up the difference.
Given the way the hours.days are structured, it is most likely that the same minimum wage is paid for weekend work, which it would mean your social life is greatly impacted as you are not able to have the same time each week.
No ST at PR, no playing in a regular sports team or regular social events. What for ? Out of the door the day work drops off.
So I hope the c**t goes bankrupt - no more than he deserves. |
Very OTT based on this article, wishing bankruptcy on someone, calling them a c**t.
You're really a lovely bloke aren't you |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:17 - Jun 15 with 706 views | Funge |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:13 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe |
Very OTT based on this article, wishing bankruptcy on someone, calling them a c**t.
You're really a lovely bloke aren't you |
Harry is repeatedly and continually loud and rude about everything; akin to Rik from the Young Ones, but nowhere near as funny. |  | | |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:19 - Jun 15 with 700 views | hoppy |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 13:44 - Jun 15 by JammyDodgerrr |
What a ridiculous article and shocking journalism.
He had more than 100 applicants but here he is saying he can't even hire ten people but not pressed on why? And he is struggling to understand why people would choose a job that pays £11 an hour for 35 Hour weeks, over his 46 hour weeks.
Sounds like an absolute delight to work for. |
"Minimum wage these days is nearly £9 an hour so really doing a minimum of 46 hours is somewhere around about £440 gross.
"A lot of jobs out there might be paying £11 or £12 per hour, but only offer 35 hours a week – so it's all relative."
To use his examples...
£9 per hour x 46 hrs = £414
£12 per hr x 35 hrs = £420 (more money and 11 hrs more free time)
Has anyone's epitaph said "I wish I'd worked longer hours for less money?" |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:22 - Jun 15 with 688 views | HARRY10 |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 14:46 - Jun 15 by XYZ |
Crap management leads to poor productivity and lower profit.
Crap managers pay minimum wage to cover up their own shortcomings and inability to create value. The only value created is through exploitation of under-rewarded workers. |
A bit if experience having ran a grounds maintenance company for a number if years. Levels of work would fluctuate from the basic contracts (blocks if flats etc) to all manner of repair, decorating etc.
Which meant having to find staff at short notice, usually cash in hand. I was told by another doing the same that as these blokes were 'desperate' they should be grateful for the work. I'd been in that position (desperate) many years before.
As far as I was concerned they were paid a fair price Soon as we had finished they were paid and off site. It was my business (literally) to sort out their welfare, food, tea, protective clothing etc
Sometimes we were up, a days pay but we were finished by 3pm others it went in a bit longer in the day but it was accepted, as there was never any intention of a con on my part.
I took the view that without the extra labour I would not have been able to take on the extra work, so what I earned was a bonus. Over the years however I noticed the almost opposite attitude in other contractors. Rather like a taxi driver begrudging paying for fuel, insurance repairs etc
Yep, the ones I still know off are more successful than me - if accumulating money equates to success. For my part it was great fun. We got the work done and each day was enjoyable and invariably a 'great crack'. Those years taught me a lot, business wise, and helped me step up a notch or two - which allowed me to get out earlier than I thought.
My motto (advice) would be.....don't be a c**t, as it's a hard habit to get out of and a harder view of you (by others) to shrug off |  | | |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:28 - Jun 15 with 671 views | jeera |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:19 - Jun 15 by hoppy |
"Minimum wage these days is nearly £9 an hour so really doing a minimum of 46 hours is somewhere around about £440 gross.
"A lot of jobs out there might be paying £11 or £12 per hour, but only offer 35 hours a week – so it's all relative."
To use his examples...
£9 per hour x 46 hrs = £414
£12 per hr x 35 hrs = £420 (more money and 11 hrs more free time)
Has anyone's epitaph said "I wish I'd worked longer hours for less money?" |
You're missing the point.
They're only 6 quid worse off than their counterparts so if they put in some overtime they can catch up.
And not being off work for those extra hours means they won't be out spending it.
Win win. | |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:34 - Jun 15 with 652 views | hoppy |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:28 - Jun 15 by jeera |
You're missing the point.
They're only 6 quid worse off than their counterparts so if they put in some overtime they can catch up.
And not being off work for those extra hours means they won't be out spending it.
Win win. |
Oh, of course.
My mistake.
However, if he makes 9 x 46 = somewhere around £440... you'd have to question some of the calculations, wouldn't you? | |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:36 - Jun 15 with 642 views | itfcjoe |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:28 - Jun 15 by jeera |
You're missing the point.
They're only 6 quid worse off than their counterparts so if they put in some overtime they can catch up.
And not being off work for those extra hours means they won't be out spending it.
Win win. |
On the flip side of this, we've got a Romanian guy that works for us, has done for about 7 years now, and he has recently wanted more money which we have paid....(He's well above National Living Wage as a Labourer).....but part of issue is a few of his fellow countrymen are earning more than him....but he works 8 hours a day and they are doing 12 hours in a factory.
To him, whether he does 8 or 12 is neither here nor there in the week. he works, his wife looks after the kids and he gets the weekend to himself as do his mates.
I think there is a bit of an attitude around that in certain parts of the job market - especially if the work is conveniently located, and able to be done by those without any qualifications or tickets. | |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:37 - Jun 15 with 634 views | m14_blue |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:05 - Jun 15 by usm |
But if theyre put of work, they'd jump at the chance to work wouldnt they?
We are all making assumptions and the guy appears a right plonker, but it seems ridiculous that he cannot fill these vacancies, even worse people not bothering to turn up or clearing off at lunchtime. |
Exactly, and they still don't want to work there.
It's a tough market for employers at the moment, and it's not hard to see why people are opting against working long hours in a factory for minimum wage.
I can't see how it has anything to do with furlough at all. | | | |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:06 - Jun 15 with 557 views | jeera |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:36 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe |
On the flip side of this, we've got a Romanian guy that works for us, has done for about 7 years now, and he has recently wanted more money which we have paid....(He's well above National Living Wage as a Labourer).....but part of issue is a few of his fellow countrymen are earning more than him....but he works 8 hours a day and they are doing 12 hours in a factory.
To him, whether he does 8 or 12 is neither here nor there in the week. he works, his wife looks after the kids and he gets the weekend to himself as do his mates.
I think there is a bit of an attitude around that in certain parts of the job market - especially if the work is conveniently located, and able to be done by those without any qualifications or tickets. |
With your example things are the right way up. | |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:10 - Jun 15 with 548 views | jeera |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:34 - Jun 15 by hoppy |
Oh, of course.
My mistake.
However, if he makes 9 x 46 = somewhere around £440... you'd have to question some of the calculations, wouldn't you? |
I certainly would.
How can he seriously reach those conclusions that people are better off working more and earning less?
Like I said before, this has to have been copied from a joke article surely.
I reckon they've done a Facters' bin and printed something without checking it's real. | |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:12 - Jun 15 with 543 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:17 - Jun 15 by Funge |
Harry is repeatedly and continually loud and rude about everything; akin to Rik from the Young Ones, but nowhere near as funny. |
"It's not true. It was a joke I made up and you fell for it like the fascist you are" |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:20 - Jun 15 with 532 views | chicoazul |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 15:22 - Jun 15 by HARRY10 |
A bit if experience having ran a grounds maintenance company for a number if years. Levels of work would fluctuate from the basic contracts (blocks if flats etc) to all manner of repair, decorating etc.
Which meant having to find staff at short notice, usually cash in hand. I was told by another doing the same that as these blokes were 'desperate' they should be grateful for the work. I'd been in that position (desperate) many years before.
As far as I was concerned they were paid a fair price Soon as we had finished they were paid and off site. It was my business (literally) to sort out their welfare, food, tea, protective clothing etc
Sometimes we were up, a days pay but we were finished by 3pm others it went in a bit longer in the day but it was accepted, as there was never any intention of a con on my part.
I took the view that without the extra labour I would not have been able to take on the extra work, so what I earned was a bonus. Over the years however I noticed the almost opposite attitude in other contractors. Rather like a taxi driver begrudging paying for fuel, insurance repairs etc
Yep, the ones I still know off are more successful than me - if accumulating money equates to success. For my part it was great fun. We got the work done and each day was enjoyable and invariably a 'great crack'. Those years taught me a lot, business wise, and helped me step up a notch or two - which allowed me to get out earlier than I thought.
My motto (advice) would be.....don't be a c**t, as it's a hard habit to get out of and a harder view of you (by others) to shrug off |
Cash in hand? Not very socialist of you, Hazza. |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:30 - Jun 15 with 499 views | Timefliesbyintheblue |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:20 - Jun 15 by chicoazul |
Cash in hand? Not very socialist of you, Hazza. |
How else would he have been able to afford to decorate his house - show some slack please. | | | |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 17:38 - Jun 15 with 486 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 13:30 - Jun 15 by Cotty |
Hahaha that is hilarious.
"Yeah, the pay's sh*t, but you get to work 45 hours which makes up for it"
What a plank. |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 19:07 - Jun 15 with 440 views | Guthrum |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 13:46 - Jun 15 by itfcjoe |
We are finding similar on things, because self employed tradesmen have done pretty well out of the furlough scheme, there isn't as much desire to work full time even as they were able to work good hours during the lockdown, but not full hours, so they were eligible to claim the grants (and no option but to claim it in full).
So much money been handed out, I don't blame anyone for taking it as lonmg as it wasn't fraudulent, but it has ballsed things up a bit |
Really? Most of the S/E tradesmen I know can't find enough hours in the day or days in the week to fit in all the work that's coming along. |  |
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| I just can't get the staff!! on 20:19 - Jun 15 with 388 views | itfcjoe |
| I just can't get the staff!! on 19:07 - Jun 15 by Guthrum |
Really? Most of the S/E tradesmen I know can't find enough hours in the day or days in the week to fit in all the work that's coming along. |
It is around here for us, any excuse to buggar off to the pub when the sun is shining etc....and because there is so much work they know they can get away with letting people down as there is no one else to turn to.
We haven't been effected too badly by it, but some guys I know and work with in industry are pulling hair out | |
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