| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check 22:33 - Jun 15 with 4853 views | ElderGrizzly |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:22 - Jun 15 with 1590 views | jeera |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:07 - Jun 15 by ElderGrizzly |
Yep, a graze is being generous
Not having much luck with medical care either…
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It's bad enough that he's posted these pictures referring to them as 'injuries'.
But there are some people actually sympathising for heaven's sake.
At least one bloke has said he's seen worse on a child who has fallen from a slide.
He's claiming to have been beaten. Beaten!
What a douche. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:23 - Jun 15 with 1579 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:14 - Jun 15 by StokieBlue |
A few is more than the usual none (like the video posted the other day). I didn't scroll too far into the comments though.
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As I've said before, it all depends who you follow. It can be v. binary I agree, some sensible threads saying the complete opposite will also attract huge support with v. little opposition, and they tend to be the majority. I think ppl tend to avoid wasting their time/energy when they know they're outnumbered on any given thread. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:31 - Jun 15 with 1558 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:18 - Jun 15 by StokieBlue |
The companies are a disgrace and allow all kinds of content which they shouldn't. They should be censured heavily for every single piece that makes it on there otherwise they will never change.
Doesn't mean there isn't good stuff on there of course, there clearly is but they need to do far more to stop the bad stuff.
SB [Post edited 15 Jun 2021 23:21]
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Believe it or not they have actually improved hugely from 5 yrs ago! Most of the platform's users (inc me) would agree with you & there's obviously still way to go, but someone on here (Dan?) pointed out how difficult that is when they have such a huge volume of material posted every day on it. | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:35 - Jun 15 with 1546 views | Giant_Midget |
What a snowflake. |  | | |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:37 - Jun 15 with 1542 views | StokieBlue |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:31 - Jun 15 by Ryorry |
Believe it or not they have actually improved hugely from 5 yrs ago! Most of the platform's users (inc me) would agree with you & there's obviously still way to go, but someone on here (Dan?) pointed out how difficult that is when they have such a huge volume of material posted every day on it. |
It's difficult yes but it's certainly possible to automate a lot of what needs to be done. They just need to be incentivised to do it and Biden was supposed to be doing that by making the platforms responsible for the content posted on there.
That seems to have gone quiet though.
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:51 - Jun 15 with 1526 views | homer_123 |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 22:42 - Jun 15 by BlueBadger |
Oh boy, he'll SH1T when he finds out that we do 'covid tests' four hourly(sometimes more) routinely on all our wards and have been dining so for decades, nay centuries. [Post edited 15 Jun 2021 22:46]
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Who's ever heard of a hospital taking temperature or blood pressure. Nae normal. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:56 - Jun 15 with 1522 views | BlueBadger |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:35 - Jun 15 by Giant_Midget |
What a snowflake. |
He just has Very Real Concerns. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 00:16 - Jun 16 with 1498 views | XYZ |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:37 - Jun 15 by StokieBlue |
It's difficult yes but it's certainly possible to automate a lot of what needs to be done. They just need to be incentivised to do it and Biden was supposed to be doing that by making the platforms responsible for the content posted on there.
That seems to have gone quiet though.
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I saw mention today that Biden was discussing a joint US/ EU position on "big tech" in an effort to counter chinese activity.
My guess is he'll get a listening ear.
Post-brexit UK will be left with no choice but to comply whilst claiming it wouldn't have been possible if we'd remained sensible. |  | | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 07:00 - Jun 16 with 1403 views | IPS_wich |
A genuine question from someone living outside the UK.
I read some of the comments to his tweet and they are incredible. To what extent is there COVID denial in the UK - is it just the lunatic fringe and right wing 'libertarians' or has it become more widespread? | | | |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 07:15 - Jun 16 with 1387 views | m14_blue |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 07:00 - Jun 16 by IPS_wich |
A genuine question from someone living outside the UK.
I read some of the comments to his tweet and they are incredible. To what extent is there COVID denial in the UK - is it just the lunatic fringe and right wing 'libertarians' or has it become more widespread? |
Mostly just the lunatics but, as ever, their Twitter echo chambers make them think they’re some kind of repressed majority.
Vaccine uptake here is very high (amongst the highest in the world I think) and the overwhelming majority of people have just been quietly getting on with things and following the rules as best they can.
Empty vessels make the most noise. | | | |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:08 - Jun 16 with 1349 views | Butterbing |
The use of “Mr. Karen” is incorrect. I believe the appropriate term is “a Simon”. |  | | |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:16 - Jun 16 with 1341 views | Bobbychase |
Your reply on Twitter has made my day |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:30 - Jun 16 with 1324 views | WeWereZombies |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:23 - Jun 15 by Ryorry |
As I've said before, it all depends who you follow. It can be v. binary I agree, some sensible threads saying the complete opposite will also attract huge support with v. little opposition, and they tend to be the majority. I think ppl tend to avoid wasting their time/energy when they know they're outnumbered on any given thread. |
Is giving up because you are outnumbered preferable to changing you mind because you have been convinced by reasoning to do so? |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:36 - Jun 16 with 1323 views | Guthrum |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 22:54 - Jun 15 by factual_blue |
BEECORZE DER VIRRIZ ISERNT REEL. |
Not to mention temperature sensor guns affecting your pineal gland and thus, presumably, disturbing (or improving) your sleep patterns. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:46 - Jun 16 with 1304 views | Keno |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 23:51 - Jun 15 by homer_123 |
Who's ever heard of a hospital taking temperature or blood pressure. Nae normal. |
just think how he would have reacted if they had suggested taking his temperature in the way the vet checks the dog!! [Post edited 16 Jun 2021 10:19]
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:55 - Jun 16 with 1309 views | DanTheMan |
Anything I don't like is communism. |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 09:51 - Jun 16 with 1256 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:30 - Jun 16 by WeWereZombies |
Is giving up because you are outnumbered preferable to changing you mind because you have been convinced by reasoning to do so? |
I've "pushed back" (I dislike fashionable trendy phrases, prefer old fashioned "objected to" etc) 100s of times, but when you're up against 100 trolls attention-seeking by promoting yet another conspiracy theory - because that's all they are, and we've had such on TWTD too, but Twttr obvs has a vastly greater no.of users so the problem is multiplied - you run outa time, there are more essential things to do in life! | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 09:55 - Jun 16 with 1249 views | footers |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 08:55 - Jun 16 by DanTheMan |
Anything I don't like is communism. |
Ah, is this the return of [GENERIC_ENGLISH_NAME][EIGHT_DIGITS] handles?
Thought all these were known to be bots? |  |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 10:00 - Jun 16 with 1240 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 09:55 - Jun 16 by footers |
Ah, is this the return of [GENERIC_ENGLISH_NAME][EIGHT_DIGITS] handles?
Thought all these were known to be bots? |
Ah right, something did ring a bell, had similar alert re a bot from a friend on there t'other day. | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 10:01 - Jun 16 with 1239 views | DanTheMan |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 09:55 - Jun 16 by footers |
Ah, is this the return of [GENERIC_ENGLISH_NAME][EIGHT_DIGITS] handles?
Thought all these were known to be bots? |
Not all of them, it's a suggested handle Twitter gives you when you can't be bothered to think of one, which is why a lot of bots had them. | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 10:55 - Jun 16 with 1199 views | WeWereZombies |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 09:51 - Jun 16 by Ryorry |
I've "pushed back" (I dislike fashionable trendy phrases, prefer old fashioned "objected to" etc) 100s of times, but when you're up against 100 trolls attention-seeking by promoting yet another conspiracy theory - because that's all they are, and we've had such on TWTD too, but Twttr obvs has a vastly greater no.of users so the problem is multiplied - you run outa time, there are more essential things to do in life! |
So the prevailing gestalt on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tik Tok is to force people to disengage? Maybe they should be called Antisocial Media... | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:01 - Jun 16 with 1190 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 10:55 - Jun 16 by WeWereZombies |
So the prevailing gestalt on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tik Tok is to force people to disengage? Maybe they should be called Antisocial Media... |
Not like you to write such rubbish - as I said previously, such trolls & threads are vastly outnumbered by the decent ones. | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:09 - Jun 16 with 1172 views | WeWereZombies |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:01 - Jun 16 by Ryorry |
Not like you to write such rubbish - as I said previously, such trolls & threads are vastly outnumbered by the decent ones. |
I am not disputing the percentage of rational (to an acceptable degree within the bounds of normative standards) posters as outnumbering the posters (or apparent posters who are actually bots) with malevolent or misguided intentions. However, when you consider the effects beyond the medium that those ill adjusted posts have, posts discouraging people to get vaccinated against Covid-19 for example (and I have three examples from personal experience despite not using any other 'social media' than TWTD), the potential for damage is very serious indeed. A substantive correction to the this form of communication is still sorely needed. | |
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:18 - Jun 16 with 1149 views | Ryorry |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:09 - Jun 16 by WeWereZombies |
I am not disputing the percentage of rational (to an acceptable degree within the bounds of normative standards) posters as outnumbering the posters (or apparent posters who are actually bots) with malevolent or misguided intentions. However, when you consider the effects beyond the medium that those ill adjusted posts have, posts discouraging people to get vaccinated against Covid-19 for example (and I have three examples from personal experience despite not using any other 'social media' than TWTD), the potential for damage is very serious indeed. A substantive correction to the this form of communication is still sorely needed. |
Yet again you're ignoring the fact that far more 'blue tick' ppl, incl docs, GPs, immunologists etc., w. followers numbering millions in total, vastly outweigh the trolls, conspiracy theorists in their thousands - ie the "correction" is inbuilt & the good infinitely outweighs the harm. [Post edited 16 Jun 2021 11:21]
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| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:27 - Jun 16 with 1129 views | WeWereZombies |
| Mr Karen refused hospital treatment for not taking a Covid Test/temp check on 11:18 - Jun 16 by Ryorry |
Yet again you're ignoring the fact that far more 'blue tick' ppl, incl docs, GPs, immunologists etc., w. followers numbering millions in total, vastly outweigh the trolls, conspiracy theorists in their thousands - ie the "correction" is inbuilt & the good infinitely outweighs the harm. [Post edited 16 Jun 2021 11:21]
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What I am getting at is the 'one tree can make a thousand matches, one match can burn a thousand trees' effect. But perhaps it isn't just Facebook and Twitter, I've just been watching the Richard Madeley clips on another thread or for some time have pondered how national newspapers lead their readers on to think in a certain way.
If insufficient numbers are taught critical thinking then even those who are rational can get caught out by views that have become the norm, which is why Goebbels was so important to the Nazis. So, for example, we have to ask ourselves was Beaverbrook just Goebbels Lite or substantially different enough to be providing an impassioned Daily Express for the right reasons? | |
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