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There were some frankly disgusting, vile and xenophobic tweets/whatsapp messages during and after the game on Tuesday night.
In light of this, I propose we get a thread going showing some appreciation for our German neighbours.
I'll start-
The beer: They sell them in litre tankards in the Aldstadt of Dusseldorf. The general cost of beer is reasonably low too.
The people: In my experience of my trips to Germany, I have found Germans to be exceedingly warm and friendly.
The football: Obscenely cheap tickets by English football standards and smoking, drinking and standing during the games itself is a brilliantly unique and fantastic experience (especially to those aged 30 and under like my good self). The fan ownership of clubs and the commitment and culture of not selling its soul also makes German football pretty special. There have been some absolutely cracking German national teams in the past too.
Fortuna Dusseldorf: a special and crazy bunch of lads/lasses that have instigated off their own back a special relationship between us and them.
Kraftwerk: Might not be to everyone's tastes but I like them. Would love to see them live. Special mention to Rammstein too.
Oktoberfest: Looks fun, but never been. I hope that changes after the pandemic.
Overall, its a cracking place and gets a 10/10 from me.
On an unrelated side note, I am trying to learn German through an app, and after a strong start of learning basic words, I am faltering. This is made especially harder by the German language having both masculine and feminine words for the same thing.
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Germany appreciation thread on 21:51 - Jul 2 with 1720 views
And then there was that fantastic German women’s tennis player who was so powerful and built like a battleship. What was her name again? Steffi Graf Spee ?
Suffolk-based QPR fan here. I come in peace. And I have a German wife.
Agree that the German footy experience is something else. £8 to get in, Standing on terraces if you want. Drinking beer from proper sturdy plastic glasses (one Euro deposit, that you get back at the end). And a bloke with a beer tanker on his back walking around topping you up during the game.
Regarding the der, die & das thing - masculine, feminine & neuter - after 20 years, I finally asked Frau GloryHunter how all the Turkish shopkeepers in Berlin seemed to cope with this so much better than I could. That's easy, she said, they just say d' before every noun. So that's what I do now. She says I sound like a Turk speaking German, and I say that's good enough for me!
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Germany appreciation thread on 23:41 - Jul 2 with 1651 views
Used to have some great holidays in the Canaries and Balearics, made all the better when spending some time with German holiday makers. The language barrier was no problem, we just had a bloody good time.
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Germany appreciation thread on 00:33 - Jul 3 with 1624 views
I've never been to Germany but will do one day. I've met people from all over the world and strongly believe that German people are the most similar to us English.
Germany appreciation thread on 00:54 - Jul 3 by BiGDonnie
I've never been to Germany but will do one day. I've met people from all over the world and strongly believe that German people are the most similar to us English.
When I was 16 I had a couple of nights rumbling with a German foreign exchange student. She was nothing like me.
My second year of learning to ski was in Austria. I was bunged in a group with 6 or 7 Germans, most of whom knew each other. The instructor was Austrian without a word of English to his name. Ahhh thought I. With polite hand gestures it was indicated I should just follow what was going on. This could be difficult thought I - until the German guy next to me said ‘don’t worry, we have no idea what he’s talking about either. Accent. We will translate as best we can’.
True to their word, they did. Germans being Germans, they strove for being the best they could be. Sod this thought I, I’ll do the same. So the striving commenced. We wound up having a great time and learned so much.
On the last day, they asked me to go to this mountain restaurant/bar when we’d finished. They ordered up endless rounds of schnapps and I was not allowed to pay. By the end I and they were slaughtered, but we all got down the mountain safely and decided a bar was required to celebrate our bravery, the world, the mountains and fun. What a night, what lovely people.
They didn’t have to include me, but they did and in doing so, made my trip.
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Germany appreciation thread on 07:50 - Jul 3 with 1557 views
Henning Wein - top comedian - top bloke, and shows us all how we can be different, in a funny way, but get on and that stuff that happened years ago shouldn't be brought upon the people of today.
My great great great Grandmother, Maria Catharina Schumacher who moved 5 miles over the border and married my Dutch Great Great Great Grandad.
I also have a "cousin" (2nd or 3rd) who moved to Germany from the Netherlands to work, joined their airforce, and married a German lady. He's a good bloke.
To be fair most of the anti German and anti Belgium stuff in the Netherlands (and the UK with the Germans ) appears to be "harmless" these days - 99% of people get on and have a bit of fun, but there is / are always 1% of people who either still hate the enemy, or the 1% of people who have no sense of humour - my old man's nickname over the years was "Clogger" and I still occasionally still get "Little Clogger" despite being 6 foot 2 and 16 stones!!! -
Having been born in England (but with Dutch and Scottish family) - the Clogs and Jocks families... I have found over the years things have moved on and in a similar vein.
Germany appreciation thread on 16:00 - Jul 2 by Blueastheycome
Cheers- will check them out (except U2 ha ha- sorry!)
Mr Bowie did live in Berlin for a bit didn't he, and got in kahootz with Mr Iggy whilst he was there
Edited: of course he did- probably why its called the Berlin Trilogy!
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'Achtung Baby' was U2's last good album, it is worth a listen.
Also check out anything produced by Conny Plank - Our own Brian Eno suggested to U2 that Conny was the better producer for 'The Joshua Tree' but Conny turned them down and said he could not work with singer...
Germany appreciation thread on 13:17 - Jul 3 by WeWereZombies
'Achtung Baby' was U2's last good album, it is worth a listen.
Also check out anything produced by Conny Plank - Our own Brian Eno suggested to U2 that Conny was the better producer for 'The Joshua Tree' but Conny turned them down and said he could not work with singer...
There's something very English about being so ashamed of your country you feel the need to apologise and grovel over other countries for comments you didn't make.
Can you imagine if Scottish fans made an England appreciation thread after all the hateful, xenophobic comments they made against us after the 0-0. Wouldn't be received very well, would it? I suppose a currywurst is alright though.
I will only ever put Adidas trainers on, love their respect for their manufacturing industries, the scooter parts i get, real innovation, and of course, the sausage, beer, Beckenbauer and Becker.
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Germany appreciation thread on 13:31 - Jul 3 with 1444 views
Germany appreciation thread on 13:29 - Jul 3 by CokeIsKey
There's something very English about being so ashamed of your country you feel the need to apologise and grovel over other countries for comments you didn't make.
Can you imagine if Scottish fans made an England appreciation thread after all the hateful, xenophobic comments they made against us after the 0-0. Wouldn't be received very well, would it? I suppose a currywurst is alright though.
Did the German fans make hurtful xenophobic comments about the English then?
Germany appreciation thread on 13:29 - Jul 3 by CokeIsKey
There's something very English about being so ashamed of your country you feel the need to apologise and grovel over other countries for comments you didn't make.
Can you imagine if Scottish fans made an England appreciation thread after all the hateful, xenophobic comments they made against us after the 0-0. Wouldn't be received very well, would it? I suppose a currywurst is alright though.
It's just a fun thread counteracting the painful and stupid 'rivalry' that certain sections of the England fanbase have with Germany. It's in no way reciprocated and is just another sad facet of people's weird obsession with WW2.
Dear old footers KC - Private Counsel to Big Farmer - Liberator of Vichy TWTD
Germany appreciation thread on 13:29 - Jul 3 by CokeIsKey
There's something very English about being so ashamed of your country you feel the need to apologise and grovel over other countries for comments you didn't make.
Can you imagine if Scottish fans made an England appreciation thread after all the hateful, xenophobic comments they made against us after the 0-0. Wouldn't be received very well, would it? I suppose a currywurst is alright though.
Not spotting the equivalence there at all with the Scots.
Town have an affiliation with a number of German fans and it would be good to keep that going by not acting like complete dicks towards their country folk I suppose.
That aside, there is an English appreciation thread if you care to add some positives like many of us have so far.
Germany appreciation thread on 13:35 - Jul 3 by jeera
Not spotting the equivalence there at all with the Scots.
Town have an affiliation with a number of German fans and it would be good to keep that going by not acting like complete dicks towards their country folk I suppose.
That aside, there is an English appreciation thread if you care to add some positives like many of us have so far.
After 30 years of football-watching together, Frau GloryHunter has astonishingly waited for this week to reveal to me that Red Card in vernacular German is Arschkarte. Yes, it translates exactly as it sounds. Allegedly, when yellow and red cards were first introduced in the 1970s, most German homes still had black-and-white TVs. So viewers couldn't tell which colour card the ref was brandishing. So the referees adopted the practice of keeping the yellow card in their shirt pocket, and the red card in their back shorts pocket. So the ref reaching behind him for the Arschkarte was bad news for a player. "Er hat die Arschkarte gezogen" - lit. "He pulled the ass card" has become standard German slang for having a bit of bad luck, or drawing the short straw, or getting sacked. But I'm not sure that every German is aware of its origins.
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