| Proud to be English 20:31 - Jul 8 with 7977 views | CaptainAhab |
Honestly not something I've ever written before, but in the aftermath of last night I've been feeling quite emotional... I shed a tear or two after the game, this morning after someone posted the Mason Mount video and just now after seeing the video of the Muslim scholars.
Then I saw this post by a random commenter, which summed it up so perfectly, which helped me to understand quite why I'm feeling this way. This is beautiful:
This team of young men: young men who campaign to feed poor children, who kneel against racism, who stand up for lgbtq+ rights, some whose parents or grandparents came to this country as immigrants, some who came from broken homes, some who fought against unfair criticism for their place in the team... this team of young men, who support each other and strive for the success of THEIR TEAM rather than for individual glory... this team of young men, and their strong, supportive, intelligent, compassionate manager, have inspired and impressed and earned the respect of every one of us, and they have unified us at a time of great division.
I am so overwhelmed by their attitude, professionalism and love for the game. This team of young men will go down in history as the pride of England, regardless of Sunday's outcome. ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿â¤ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ |  | | |  |
| Proud to be English on 17:14 - Jul 9 with 1219 views | hype313 |
| Proud to be English on 17:11 - Jul 9 by Moriarty |
You can do that yourself.
Has it not dawned on you that I might have good reason to think that and that I have no wish or motivation to otherwise do do? |
Again, I ask, Can you point out what I have said in this thread where I have issues with the Irish?
Thought not. |  |
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| Proud to be English on 17:16 - Jul 9 with 1216 views | giant_stow |
| Proud to be English on 16:56 - Jul 9 by Moriarty |
And yet I'm not surprised you've jumped in the way you have.
The "small elements" are not always as small as you might think but that was not the focus of my post.
You an Ulla seem to have some serious issues when it comes to things Irish. |
The OP was an exceedingly rare “England’s not actually that bad” post. The sort of post that is normally drowned out by often reasonable critiques.
But you couldn’t let one little pat on the back pass without negativity. To then cry foul and claim prejudice is bordering on pathetic.
I have absolutely no problem with the Irish people (and I will try not to be offended by your accusation). My problem is with your post (not even you!). |  |
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| Proud to be English on 17:22 - Jul 9 with 1207 views | hype313 |
| Proud to be English on 17:16 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
The OP was an exceedingly rare “England’s not actually that bad” post. The sort of post that is normally drowned out by often reasonable critiques.
But you couldn’t let one little pat on the back pass without negativity. To then cry foul and claim prejudice is bordering on pathetic.
I have absolutely no problem with the Irish people (and I will try not to be offended by your accusation). My problem is with your post (not even you!). |
It's quite outrageous how he has thrown anti Irish sentiments by us on this thread without foundation.
FWIW I am offended by his tone, he knows nothing of my circumstances and my close friendships I have within the Irish nation, yet still raises unfounded accusations. [Post edited 9 Jul 2021 17:22]
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| Proud to be English on 17:29 - Jul 9 with 1195 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:16 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
The OP was an exceedingly rare “England’s not actually that bad” post. The sort of post that is normally drowned out by often reasonable critiques.
But you couldn’t let one little pat on the back pass without negativity. To then cry foul and claim prejudice is bordering on pathetic.
I have absolutely no problem with the Irish people (and I will try not to be offended by your accusation). My problem is with your post (not even you!). |
I think you’ve misinterpreted the OP to be honest. It’s that this current side and the feeling they’ve generated are a breath of fresh air. I don’t think that’s in doubt as it’s much more positive and inclusive overall. That’s civic nationalism.
But keep on doing whatever it is you’re doing in your little bubble. |  |
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| Proud to be English on 17:31 - Jul 9 with 1182 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:22 - Jul 9 by hype313 |
It's quite outrageous how he has thrown anti Irish sentiments by us on this thread without foundation.
FWIW I am offended by his tone, he knows nothing of my circumstances and my close friendships I have within the Irish nation, yet still raises unfounded accusations. [Post edited 9 Jul 2021 17:22]
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Think you’re overreacting somewhat.
If you both agree with the OP I don’t even think you’re disagreeing. | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:32 - Jul 9 with 1188 views | chicoazul |
| Proud to be English on 17:16 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
The OP was an exceedingly rare “England’s not actually that bad” post. The sort of post that is normally drowned out by often reasonable critiques.
But you couldn’t let one little pat on the back pass without negativity. To then cry foul and claim prejudice is bordering on pathetic.
I have absolutely no problem with the Irish people (and I will try not to be offended by your accusation). My problem is with your post (not even you!). |
Ullers you have to realise that as soon as a post like this is out there, then all the names you’d expect will dogpile on it. Just drink their delicious tears. Imagine how upset they are going to be if England win! |  |
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| Proud to be English on 17:35 - Jul 9 with 1175 views | giant_stow |
| Proud to be English on 17:29 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
I think you’ve misinterpreted the OP to be honest. It’s that this current side and the feeling they’ve generated are a breath of fresh air. I don’t think that’s in doubt as it’s much more positive and inclusive overall. That’s civic nationalism.
But keep on doing whatever it is you’re doing in your little bubble. |
I think you're blinded by your insular hate tbh Darth. The england described in the OP hasn't just appeared. It's been growing and improving for a long time, although obviously still very imperfect. All that's happenned is that a football tournament has revealed it those who wanted to believe otherwise. [Post edited 9 Jul 2021 17:36]
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| Proud to be English on 17:36 - Jul 9 with 1173 views | giant_stow |
| Proud to be English on 17:32 - Jul 9 by chicoazul |
Ullers you have to realise that as soon as a post like this is out there, then all the names you’d expect will dogpile on it. Just drink their delicious tears. Imagine how upset they are going to be if England win! |
You musn't tempt fate like that!! | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:38 - Jul 9 with 1160 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:32 - Jul 9 by chicoazul |
Ullers you have to realise that as soon as a post like this is out there, then all the names you’d expect will dogpile on it. Just drink their delicious tears. Imagine how upset they are going to be if England win! |
Mate, you put the little in Little Englander.
I’m hopeful for my English mates and brother-in-law, who are all great people. But if England lose, you, Priti Patel and Tommy Robinson will be the threads in my silver lining. 😀 | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:42 - Jul 9 with 1157 views | J2BLUE |
| Proud to be English on 17:35 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
I think you're blinded by your insular hate tbh Darth. The england described in the OP hasn't just appeared. It's been growing and improving for a long time, although obviously still very imperfect. All that's happenned is that a football tournament has revealed it those who wanted to believe otherwise. [Post edited 9 Jul 2021 17:36]
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Does anyone take him seriously anymore? One rule for Scotland, one for England.
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| Proud to be English on 17:43 - Jul 9 with 1151 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:35 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
I think you're blinded by your insular hate tbh Darth. The england described in the OP hasn't just appeared. It's been growing and improving for a long time, although obviously still very imperfect. All that's happenned is that a football tournament has revealed it those who wanted to believe otherwise. [Post edited 9 Jul 2021 17:36]
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Oh please. It’s small-minded Telegraph readers like you who have been holding this stuff back.
But if you’re suddenly a believer in a fairer, nicer multicultural society then it’s all good. Who’d have thunk Rashford and Southgate would be the great reformers? | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 with 1136 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:42 - Jul 9 by J2BLUE |
Does anyone take him seriously anymore? One rule for Scotland, one for England.
zzzzzzzzzz |
We seem to return to this every couple of years, J2.
What is it that you don’t get about the huge regional (and other structural) divides in the UK? Are you saying I’ve argued against them on national grounds? Cos that would be a complete lie. | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 with 1141 views | chicoazul |
| Proud to be English on 17:38 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
Mate, you put the little in Little Englander.
I’m hopeful for my English mates and brother-in-law, who are all great people. But if England lose, you, Priti Patel and Tommy Robinson will be the threads in my silver lining. 😀 |
Delicious delicious tears. Civic nationalism! Read a book Chico! Hohoho. | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 with 1140 views | giant_stow |
| Proud to be English on 17:43 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
Oh please. It’s small-minded Telegraph readers like you who have been holding this stuff back.
But if you’re suddenly a believer in a fairer, nicer multicultural society then it’s all good. Who’d have thunk Rashford and Southgate would be the great reformers? |
genuinely funny! | |
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| Proud to be English on 17:51 - Jul 9 with 1129 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 by chicoazul |
Delicious delicious tears. Civic nationalism! Read a book Chico! Hohoho. |
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| Proud to be English on 17:52 - Jul 9 with 1123 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 by giant_stow |
genuinely funny! |
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| Proud to be English on 17:55 - Jul 9 with 1120 views | J2BLUE |
| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
We seem to return to this every couple of years, J2.
What is it that you don’t get about the huge regional (and other structural) divides in the UK? Are you saying I’ve argued against them on national grounds? Cos that would be a complete lie. |
Your general attitude is that it's England's fault. All of the time. You had your chance to go it alone and hopefully you'll get another one soon.
Your reply to Ulla was out of order as well. Never come across as anything other than decent (with the obvious exception) but because he doesn't join in the 24/7 circle jerk where you lot constantly twist everything to injustice and pat each other on the back for pointing it out you act like he's part of the problem.
Some people just live their lives treating everyone with respect and decency rather than constantly look to show everyone online how amazingly tolerant they are. This site is now the same small group of posters posting the same sh1te day in, day out and patting each other on the back. | |
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| Proud to be English on 18:03 - Jul 9 with 1094 views | chicoazul |
| Proud to be English on 17:50 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
We seem to return to this every couple of years, J2.
What is it that you don’t get about the huge regional (and other structural) divides in the UK? Are you saying I’ve argued against them on national grounds? Cos that would be a complete lie. |
I agree with this. Look at how much Scotland gets floated by England for instance. Unfair! Regional divides! | |
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| Proud to be English on 18:14 - Jul 9 with 1069 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 18:03 - Jul 9 by chicoazul |
I agree with this. Look at how much Scotland gets floated by England for instance. Unfair! Regional divides! |
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| Proud to be English on 18:15 - Jul 9 with 1073 views | Moriarty |
| Proud to be English on 17:10 - Jul 9 by noggin |
I would. |
Careful now.
A stereotyper might come along and jingoise you into oblivion with a marvel like ability to dismiss their stereotyping.
And Churchman will give you advice re £75. |  |
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| Proud to be English on 18:40 - Jul 9 with 1033 views | Moriarty |
| Proud to be English on 17:55 - Jul 9 by J2BLUE |
Your general attitude is that it's England's fault. All of the time. You had your chance to go it alone and hopefully you'll get another one soon.
Your reply to Ulla was out of order as well. Never come across as anything other than decent (with the obvious exception) but because he doesn't join in the 24/7 circle jerk where you lot constantly twist everything to injustice and pat each other on the back for pointing it out you act like he's part of the problem.
Some people just live their lives treating everyone with respect and decency rather than constantly look to show everyone online how amazingly tolerant they are. This site is now the same small group of posters posting the same sh1te day in, day out and patting each other on the back. |
J2, if I can invite you to look at this from another perspective.
At the outset, I would hope it is clear I’m not anti English and that my post (which has misconstrued by Churchman and piled on by others) is in fact a balanced post.
There’s good and bad with every nation.
From my perspective, Churchman’s attack is grossly unfair. It stereotypes me as anti English because the balance involves negative experiences of the English like that night in Dublin in 1995. Big Jack, whom I revere, was even more scathing.
Yet Churchman starts a pile on and others enter the fray, copperfastening the stereotype, all the while convinced they couldn’t be racist. | |
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| Proud to be English on 18:43 - Jul 9 with 1021 views | noggin |
| Proud to be English on 18:40 - Jul 9 by Moriarty |
J2, if I can invite you to look at this from another perspective.
At the outset, I would hope it is clear I’m not anti English and that my post (which has misconstrued by Churchman and piled on by others) is in fact a balanced post.
There’s good and bad with every nation.
From my perspective, Churchman’s attack is grossly unfair. It stereotypes me as anti English because the balance involves negative experiences of the English like that night in Dublin in 1995. Big Jack, whom I revere, was even more scathing.
Yet Churchman starts a pile on and others enter the fray, copperfastening the stereotype, all the while convinced they couldn’t be racist. |
Yeah but they're the right kind of 'always looking for offence'. |  |
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| Proud to be English on 18:44 - Jul 9 with 1243 views | J2BLUE |
| Proud to be English on 18:40 - Jul 9 by Moriarty |
J2, if I can invite you to look at this from another perspective.
At the outset, I would hope it is clear I’m not anti English and that my post (which has misconstrued by Churchman and piled on by others) is in fact a balanced post.
There’s good and bad with every nation.
From my perspective, Churchman’s attack is grossly unfair. It stereotypes me as anti English because the balance involves negative experiences of the English like that night in Dublin in 1995. Big Jack, whom I revere, was even more scathing.
Yet Churchman starts a pile on and others enter the fray, copperfastening the stereotype, all the while convinced they couldn’t be racist. |
My reply was to Darth mate. I haven't even read Churchman's post to you.
I'll go and have a look. | |
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| Proud to be English on 18:56 - Jul 9 with 1221 views | Darth_Koont |
| Proud to be English on 18:44 - Jul 9 by J2BLUE |
My reply was to Darth mate. I haven't even read Churchman's post to you.
I'll go and have a look. |
I just spent 15 minutes writing a heartfelt, honest and generally very appreciative PM to you.
But you put me on ignore, it was blocked and now it’s gone. So f**** you 😀
(But seriously, get in touch) | |
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| Proud to be English on 18:59 - Jul 9 with 1216 views | Ryorry |
| Proud to be English on 18:56 - Jul 9 by Darth_Koont |
I just spent 15 minutes writing a heartfelt, honest and generally very appreciative PM to you.
But you put me on ignore, it was blocked and now it’s gone. So f**** you 😀
(But seriously, get in touch) |
Probably too late for you now, but you can sometimes recover posts on here by back-buttoning 2 -4 times. |  |
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