| "Illegal immigrants" 09:10 - Jul 21 with 18607 views | noggin |
It really pisses me off that so many news sources label these human beings as criminals. The criminals are the people smugglers and the politicians. Is it any wonder the public have such a xenophobic attitude to these poor people. [Post edited 21 Jul 2021 9:14]
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| [Redacted] on 13:43 - Jul 26 with 822 views | victorywilhappen |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:10 - Jul 26 by Furrow |
As someone who lives in the area in question. Here's few answers to your questions on this topic
From a Border Force friend of mine: The reason these people coming ashore are called illegal immigrants is, that they destroy all of their documents before they alight into the country. It is a criminal offence to enter a country without a passport, this is the same for any country. Even a British person trying to enter back into the UK without a passport, is an illegal.
Why do they spend 25 to 30k to get here?
Because the family all club together in the knowledge that Britain allows you to send for your family and all that family will enter as legals if the original immigrant can gain asylum. then can claim all of their benefits.
The gang bosses also sell them the big story that. the UK is the land of free housing and free motor cars. free this free that and yes all the family will be able to join, because you will be accepted to the UK for definite
This is played out to a coach driver mate of mine who they ask constantly if they can use their phone to call home to let the family know. Not that they are safe. but to let them know that they will be sending for them. then ask where do i get my free house and free car from.
This is the part that people do not see, all they see is someone they think is an oppressed person. if they were oppressed why are they not staying in the first safe country they enter. Once you leave the first country looking for somewhere better, you become an Economic Migrant. |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:03 - Jul 26 with 765 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:35 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Eh? |
Don’t worry young man, Dan the Man sent me some links |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:13 - Jul 26 with 739 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:03 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Don’t worry young man, Dan the Man sent me some links |
That's good. Hopefully you'll follow my advice as well. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:18 - Jul 26 with 728 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:13 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
That's good. Hopefully you'll follow my advice as well. |
Still doesn’t explain my other query as to why they all choose the UK, the other countries inbetween here and there must be all terrible!!! | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:19 - Jul 26 with 728 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:03 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Don’t worry young man, Dan the Man sent me some links |
The fact that you need to given links before you would consider showing compassion for a fellow human being is pretty disgusting.
You talk about your fellow humans as if they were dogs! Tw@. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:24 - Jul 26 with 708 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:18 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Still doesn’t explain my other query as to why they all choose the UK, the other countries inbetween here and there must be all terrible!!! |
They don't. Please stop lying. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:24 - Jul 26 with 706 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:18 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Still doesn’t explain my other query as to why they all choose the UK, the other countries inbetween here and there must be all terrible!!! |
That has been explained to you, re-read the last couple of pages of the thread. It's also been explained to others earlier in the thread.
Here's the summary: they don't all come here, we process far fewer asylum applications than many other European countries. And for those who do choose to seek asylum here they come here for a myriad of reasons, for example they may speak the language already, may have family or a community here to help them settle, the issue that made it unsafe for them in their home country may make other countries less safe for them too.
If you're genuinely interested it wouldn't be hard for you to find this kind of stuff out. You could have done so just by reading this thread, for example, but you could find some other sources too if you wanted to. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:26 - Jul 26 with 693 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:19 - Jul 26 by NewcyBlue |
The fact that you need to given links before you would consider showing compassion for a fellow human being is pretty disgusting.
You talk about your fellow humans as if they were dogs! Tw@. |
Hello young Newcy boy,
I just don’t agree with giving criminals £1000s to enter a country illegally.
Also, you should allow them on to your wee boat and bring them in.
One last question young man, more out of curiosity. Would you as a boat captain get fined like the lorry drivers do? If so, how much is that fine? [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:32]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:33 - Jul 26 with 669 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:26 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Hello young Newcy boy,
I just don’t agree with giving criminals £1000s to enter a country illegally.
Also, you should allow them on to your wee boat and bring them in.
One last question young man, more out of curiosity. Would you as a boat captain get fined like the lorry drivers do? If so, how much is that fine? [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:32]
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I reckon they'd rather not give criminals money to enter a country. If only there was another way huh? | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:35 - Jul 26 with 658 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:26 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Hello young Newcy boy,
I just don’t agree with giving criminals £1000s to enter a country illegally.
Also, you should allow them on to your wee boat and bring them in.
One last question young man, more out of curiosity. Would you as a boat captain get fined like the lorry drivers do? If so, how much is that fine? [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:32]
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So do you think we should be offering safe passage to asylum seekers instead if your main issue is people illegally profiteering from it? | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:41 - Jul 26 with 630 views | Seablu |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:24 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
That has been explained to you, re-read the last couple of pages of the thread. It's also been explained to others earlier in the thread.
Here's the summary: they don't all come here, we process far fewer asylum applications than many other European countries. And for those who do choose to seek asylum here they come here for a myriad of reasons, for example they may speak the language already, may have family or a community here to help them settle, the issue that made it unsafe for them in their home country may make other countries less safe for them too.
If you're genuinely interested it wouldn't be hard for you to find this kind of stuff out. You could have done so just by reading this thread, for example, but you could find some other sources too if you wanted to. |
I don’t think young blue conscience really wants to educate itself on any of this.
It’s made its wee mind up and merely joined in when it saw wee bluejacko had nibbled off more than it could manage.
Decent right tends to side with stupid on here, as it’s all it’s got to work with.
Pitiful but wholly predictable. [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:46]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:43 - Jul 26 with 626 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:41 - Jul 26 by Seablu |
I don’t think young blue conscience really wants to educate itself on any of this.
It’s made its wee mind up and merely joined in when it saw wee bluejacko had nibbled off more than it could manage.
Decent right tends to side with stupid on here, as it’s all it’s got to work with.
Pitiful but wholly predictable. [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:46]
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I am just surprised how you all accept a criminal activity as the norm. I have read the links wee Dan sent me. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:44 - Jul 26 with 618 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:43 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
I am just surprised how you all accept a criminal activity as the norm. I have read the links wee Dan sent me. |
Yeah, you're just trolling now. I wasted a few minutes of my valuable time actually bothering with you as well. I regret that. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:47 - Jul 26 with 606 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:44 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Yeah, you're just trolling now. I wasted a few minutes of my valuable time actually bothering with you as well. I regret that. |
I am just disagreeing with a crime, that is the problem with this forum. You are not allowed a differing opinion on something, was hoping all the argumentative people on here had left in that exodus last week. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:48 - Jul 26 with 606 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:26 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Hello young Newcy boy,
I just don’t agree with giving criminals £1000s to enter a country illegally.
Also, you should allow them on to your wee boat and bring them in.
One last question young man, more out of curiosity. Would you as a boat captain get fined like the lorry drivers do? If so, how much is that fine? [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:32]
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Hello NoConscience
I have personally escorted over 120 migrants to safety whilst at sea. I prepared my vessel for taking them on board should that have been required. I did that knowing that it would delay me getting home to my family.
A captain can only get fined under certain conditions. None of which are having stowaways on board. The fines relate to declaring the stowaways etc.
Having them on board isn’t an issue. It’s difficult to subsequently land them ashore. Some countries make it more difficult than others. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:50 - Jul 26 with 586 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:43 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
I am just surprised how you all accept a criminal activity as the norm. I have read the links wee Dan sent me. |
Who is accepting a criminal activity? We all agree there should be a legal route for people seeking asylum in the UK. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:52 - Jul 26 with 577 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:48 - Jul 26 by NewcyBlue |
Hello NoConscience
I have personally escorted over 120 migrants to safety whilst at sea. I prepared my vessel for taking them on board should that have been required. I did that knowing that it would delay me getting home to my family.
A captain can only get fined under certain conditions. None of which are having stowaways on board. The fines relate to declaring the stowaways etc.
Having them on board isn’t an issue. It’s difficult to subsequently land them ashore. Some countries make it more difficult than others. |
Thanks Newcy, you're a role model for all of us. | |
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| [Redacted] on 14:57 - Jul 26 with 550 views | victorywilhappen |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:47 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
I am just disagreeing with a crime, that is the problem with this forum. You are not allowed a differing opinion on something, was hoping all the argumentative people on here had left in that exodus last week. |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:58 - Jul 26 with 545 views | noggin |
yEAh bUT im eNGliSh. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:59 - Jul 26 with 543 views | blueconscience |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:50 - Jul 26 by noggin |
Who is accepting a criminal activity? We all agree there should be a legal route for people seeking asylum in the UK. |
Yes, I agree with having a legal path for Asylum Seekers into the UK. Just don’t agree with the illegal path.
Anyway, We are never going to agree, so will leave you’s to it. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:01 - Jul 26 with 528 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:59 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Yes, I agree with having a legal path for Asylum Seekers into the UK. Just don’t agree with the illegal path.
Anyway, We are never going to agree, so will leave you’s to it. |
Have you written to your MP to demand a safe and legal route? | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:02 - Jul 26 with 521 views | bluejacko |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:41 - Jul 26 by Seablu |
I don’t think young blue conscience really wants to educate itself on any of this.
It’s made its wee mind up and merely joined in when it saw wee bluejacko had nibbled off more than it could manage.
Decent right tends to side with stupid on here, as it’s all it’s got to work with.
Pitiful but wholly predictable. [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 14:46]
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Nibbled off more than I can manage!
While this going on more people are risking an illegal crossing off the channel
Despite being told by a local what it is actually like in the area you all still seem to believe it is ok for the law to be broken by this migration! And yet you still call other posters tw@ts and such.
You will have noticed that I have not resorted to your level as believe it or not I believe you have an opinion although different to mine.
What’s more you also have been shown links albeit by the mail of abuse of the system and use of the NHS which of course they have not contributed a penny too while being put up in a hotel.
This is obviously ok with you but I think on the whole the general public are not happy with it! Now I am to catch a plane back to a country that is supposed to be riven with community strife.
Cheerio [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 15:05]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:03 - Jul 26 with 516 views | DanTheMan |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:59 - Jul 26 by blueconscience |
Yes, I agree with having a legal path for Asylum Seekers into the UK. Just don’t agree with the illegal path.
Anyway, We are never going to agree, so will leave you’s to it. |
I'd rather they didn't have to do what they do, but I accept the reasons why they have chosen to do so, and do not blame them for it.
I imagine that's the same for most people. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:05 - Jul 26 with 503 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:52 - Jul 26 by noggin |
Thanks Newcy, you're a role model for all of us. |
Nah. It’s the NHS works and healthcare workers around the world that are an inspiration mate. I just drive boxes. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:07 - Jul 26 with 490 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 15:05 - Jul 26 by NewcyBlue |
Nah. It’s the NHS works and healthcare workers around the world that are an inspiration mate. I just drive boxes. |
Drive boxes and, off your own back, help save people in desperate need. [Post edited 26 Jul 2021 15:08]
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