| "Illegal immigrants" 09:10 - Jul 21 with 18602 views | noggin |
It really pisses me off that so many news sources label these human beings as criminals. The criminals are the people smugglers and the politicians. Is it any wonder the public have such a xenophobic attitude to these poor people. [Post edited 21 Jul 2021 9:14]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:12 - Jul 24 with 1013 views | Swansea_Blue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 21:55 - Jul 22 by Lord_Lucan |
You are suggesting that I don't want any immigration, which is untrue.
I put it that there should be safe routes of immigration through proper channels and also that we should increase our quota.
If you are a genuine refugee from a war torn country or someone who is at risk of their life then of course you should flee your country and do whatever you can to get to a safe place. Once in a safe place I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that you should go through some sort of processing and be allocated a place to live in harmony.
The fact that you have entered a safe place and then go through other countries to get to the English channel, pay loads of money to criminal gangs and then risk your life getting over here is something no one has actually answered. It seems to be the go to thing to shout a bit and then bring up the so called the right wing media.
To me, the influx of mostly young men coming here over the channel are preventing a proper adult debate as to how many people we can and should accept from registered camps.
You think that's ok, I don't. We disagree.
No one is suggesting that we shouldn't accept boats from war torn countries, we are talking France here.
And anyway, what are they thinking, England is sh1t isn't it? [Post edited 22 Jul 2021 21:59]
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I don’t think I’ve accused you of not wanting any immigration; it was your comment assuming that we support refugees coming on small boats that rankled. Quite the opposite - they shouldn’t be having to risk their lives, so we’ve got common ground on that. But they will keep trying so we need those safer routes. That’s something the government don’t want to do, which is immoral imo. And then we need a humane and efficient system to process their applications; again Pritel is going in the opposite direction. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:33 - Jul 24 with 986 views | eireblue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 08:31 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Ok I will say it again! These ‘asylum’ seekers have come all the way across Europe to try and enter the UK “illegally”. If they are truly after asylum they have had lots of chances to apply in all those countries they have traveled through. Instead they see the UK as the land of milk and honey and risk the crossing to apply for the benefits that they will be granted as soon as they sign up with a ‘human rights’ lawyer! Ask the people of Dover,Folkestone and all along the Kent coast what impact this is having on their council’s and local services and I reckon not many will share your views.
Ask the lorry drivers who can’t stop within 100kms of Calais without the risk of stowaways and a £2000 fine per person if they are found on their lorry due to no fault of their own. I doubt they will share your views either.
Are you and your mates willing to put up some of these people at your expense and not mine or the other taxpayers who would rather see our money spent looking after own.I will hazard a guess and say probably not! [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 8:33]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 with 960 views | bluejacko |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:03 - Jul 24 by StokieBlue |
"Are you and your mates willing to put up some of these people at your expense and not mine or the other taxpayers who would rather see our money spent looking after own"
It was only a matter of time until you went xenophobic.
Aren't we all humans? Some, such as yourself, are just luckier than others with regards to where they are born. You didn't do anything to earn your position as "one of our own" yet you're happy to lord it over those less fortunate.
In the end, helping these people is a minute amount of money for the 5th largest economy in the world.
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Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 10:17 - Jul 24 with 934 views | Mullet |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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"The vast majority are young men who when questioned will say they are fleeing from something or other but are quite content to leave their families behind to face whatever they claim they are running from!"
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 10:21 - Jul 24 with 918 views | DanTheMan |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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" will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK"
Lots already apply in many other parts of the EU. As pointed out by others, we're not at the top of the list when it comes to asylum seekers. Also, some of the countries they go through might be outwardly hostile towards asylum seekers, such as Hungary.
However to fully answer the question, it might be due to a family member being here already, a community already existing here (a lot of our asylum seekers I believe come from Iran, Albania, Iraq, and Eritrea) or, quite simply, they know English so it would make sense. If you had the choice between living in a country where there is no community and you don't know the language vs. one where there may already be a community and you do speak the predominant language, which would you go for?
Right now, I believe due to Covid, there is no legal way they can apply for asylum as the legal route was suspended. What programme do you think you can join as say a Citizen in Iran if you wish to come to the UK? |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 10:38 - Jul 24 with 894 views | eireblue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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Let’s explore some facts.
From the U.K. Gov web site on claiming asylum
https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum
“ You should apply when you arrive in the UK……. You’ll usually get a decision on your application within 6 months.”
Hmmm, this is problematic for you isn’t it.
Clearly you can turn up in the U.K. then apply for asylum.
The U.K. government takes quite a while to work out if someone does have a reason to claim asylum.
From the website:
“ You can get help with:
getting legal representation for your asylum claim”
Hmmmm, it seems getting help from “human rights” lawyers is encouraged by the U.K. Government.
“ I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?”
Hmmm, you seemed to have already formed an opinion without being aware of the answer to this question.
Maybe a better thing to do would be to find information about say how asylum seekers are treated in France, maybe look up a few interviews of asylum seekers on their motivations, or look into some of the research that others have done.
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 10:59 - Jul 24 with 875 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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This has already been explained to you but doesn't seem to have sunk in as yet. Illegal immigrants are those who have no legal basis to be here, they've either had an asylum claim rejected, their leave to remain has expired, or they haven't made a claim in the first place and are essentially off the grid. In all of those circumstances they would not be entitled to any form of housing or benefits so would not be costing the tax payer a penny.
Those who come here and seek asylum are entitled to help with housing and a small allowance (very small) towards living costs whilst their claim is assessed. Plenty of them would rather be working and earning money but they aren't allowed to whilst their claim is being assessed.
If you are going to hold and express a strong opinion on something it is usually a good idea to educate yourself on the topic first, otherwise it comes over that you are motivated by prejudice rather than forming a reasoned view. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:31 - Jul 24 with 827 views | Radlett_blue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 10:59 - Jul 24 by Herbivore |
This has already been explained to you but doesn't seem to have sunk in as yet. Illegal immigrants are those who have no legal basis to be here, they've either had an asylum claim rejected, their leave to remain has expired, or they haven't made a claim in the first place and are essentially off the grid. In all of those circumstances they would not be entitled to any form of housing or benefits so would not be costing the tax payer a penny.
Those who come here and seek asylum are entitled to help with housing and a small allowance (very small) towards living costs whilst their claim is assessed. Plenty of them would rather be working and earning money but they aren't allowed to whilst their claim is being assessed.
If you are going to hold and express a strong opinion on something it is usually a good idea to educate yourself on the topic first, otherwise it comes over that you are motivated by prejudice rather than forming a reasoned view. |
The big problem is that the asylum system has been overwhelmed to the extent that it is completely broken. Now, a large number of immigrants claim asylum (some legitimately, some not) in the knowledge that assessing & processing their claim takes so long that they can probably enter the country & disappear. I don't particularly blame them for doping this; they are keen to come to the UK & most of them want to work & better their lives. However this is an absurd way of running an immigration system. The asylum system also obviously isn't working given that claimants are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country which they enter, which patently isn't the case. However, it has been shown that it's impractical to return claimants to the country from which they arrived. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:46 - Jul 24 with 803 views | Herbivore |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:31 - Jul 24 by Radlett_blue |
The big problem is that the asylum system has been overwhelmed to the extent that it is completely broken. Now, a large number of immigrants claim asylum (some legitimately, some not) in the knowledge that assessing & processing their claim takes so long that they can probably enter the country & disappear. I don't particularly blame them for doping this; they are keen to come to the UK & most of them want to work & better their lives. However this is an absurd way of running an immigration system. The asylum system also obviously isn't working given that claimants are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country which they enter, which patently isn't the case. However, it has been shown that it's impractical to return claimants to the country from which they arrived. |
It's not true that refugees have to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach: https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/
It's also not really a viable or fair way to do things either. Neighbouring countries of places like Syria are already overwhelmed and can't be expected to take on all people fleeing there. Most of the wealthiest European countries don't neighbour countries refugees are fleeing from.
If our asylum system really is overwhelmed then that's down to a lack of funding. We process far fewer asylum applications than most other major European countries. Reform the system, fund it properly, don't demonise vulnerable people which is all this government seems capable of. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:53 - Jul 24 with 781 views | eireblue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:31 - Jul 24 by Radlett_blue |
The big problem is that the asylum system has been overwhelmed to the extent that it is completely broken. Now, a large number of immigrants claim asylum (some legitimately, some not) in the knowledge that assessing & processing their claim takes so long that they can probably enter the country & disappear. I don't particularly blame them for doping this; they are keen to come to the UK & most of them want to work & better their lives. However this is an absurd way of running an immigration system. The asylum system also obviously isn't working given that claimants are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country which they enter, which patently isn't the case. However, it has been shown that it's impractical to return claimants to the country from which they arrived. |
Claimants are not required to claim asylum in the first safe country.
They can be returned to the first safe country.
“..they can probably enter the country & disappear”
That is an issue that is entirely within the Government to also regulate.
It has been a while, but as an example Germany used to have plenty of immigration officers working inside the country, policing employers.
The UK has things like national minimum wage, etc. It should be harder to exploit humans working in the UK. That can be fixed anytime. But requires a Government that sees the benefit of regulation and enforcement for the benefit of all employees. Including low skilled workers that are not migrants.
We don’t have that in the UK.
Instead the Home Secretary is giving more millions to the French police to try and stop people that have already managed to get away from horrendous circumstances, travelled across Europe, and the ‘thinking’ I guess is that they will be stopped in their tracks by a French Police officer having a couple of extra strolls along the beach. | | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:12 - Jul 24 with 754 views | bluejacko |
I have a solution!
Roll up roll up one free ferry a day on Monday Wednesday and Friday!
Doesn’t matter who you are where you come from or a reason to come to the UK.
All expenses paid for by the British taxpayer.👌
Be aware though if you miss these boats you will have to be like any other law abiding person and confirm to the rules and laws of the UK. | | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:18 - Jul 24 with 733 views | DanTheMan |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:12 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
I have a solution!
Roll up roll up one free ferry a day on Monday Wednesday and Friday!
Doesn’t matter who you are where you come from or a reason to come to the UK.
All expenses paid for by the British taxpayer.👌
Be aware though if you miss these boats you will have to be like any other law abiding person and confirm to the rules and laws of the UK. |
People have responded to you sincerely and you choose to respond with crappy sarcasm.
Honestly, what was the point in this response? [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 12:19]
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:20 - Jul 24 with 727 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 09:56 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Rubbish no where have I bought race colour gender or anything else into this.
What’s wrong with not agreeing to housing ILLEGAL immigrants at the taxpayers expense waiting for their case to be heard or when it is refused the above lawyers find an excuse to pull them off the plane. Helping these people? How do we know who we are helping?the men on these boats can be almost anybody and yet you say let them in they are ‘desperate’
I will ask you why do you think they so desperate to come through the EU to risk death to get to the UK?
Oh and by the way while we are on about money how about the£54m odd we sent to the French to help with this problem only to watch their patrol boats escort the boats out of their waters. [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 10:01]
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How many times do we have to tell you? Illegal immigrants get nothing. You seem to believe they are given a house and benefits. THEY DON't. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:21 - Jul 24 with 722 views | noggin |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:12 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
I have a solution!
Roll up roll up one free ferry a day on Monday Wednesday and Friday!
Doesn’t matter who you are where you come from or a reason to come to the UK.
All expenses paid for by the British taxpayer.👌
Be aware though if you miss these boats you will have to be like any other law abiding person and confirm to the rules and laws of the UK. |
Dickhead. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:28 - Jul 24 with 692 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:12 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
I have a solution!
Roll up roll up one free ferry a day on Monday Wednesday and Friday!
Doesn’t matter who you are where you come from or a reason to come to the UK.
All expenses paid for by the British taxpayer.👌
Be aware though if you miss these boats you will have to be like any other law abiding person and confirm to the rules and laws of the UK. |
In the land of the witless, you would be king..
I’d happily swap a refugee for you though. |  |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:35 - Jul 24 with 679 views | Radlett_blue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 11:46 - Jul 24 by Herbivore |
It's not true that refugees have to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach: https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/
It's also not really a viable or fair way to do things either. Neighbouring countries of places like Syria are already overwhelmed and can't be expected to take on all people fleeing there. Most of the wealthiest European countries don't neighbour countries refugees are fleeing from.
If our asylum system really is overwhelmed then that's down to a lack of funding. We process far fewer asylum applications than most other major European countries. Reform the system, fund it properly, don't demonise vulnerable people which is all this government seems capable of. |
Agree with that. We need a sensible system which allows the UK to take in an agreed quota of refugees rather than the current shambles. However, what you do with the failed applicants will remain a problem. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:38 - Jul 24 with 668 views | leitrimblue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:12 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
I have a solution!
Roll up roll up one free ferry a day on Monday Wednesday and Friday!
Doesn’t matter who you are where you come from or a reason to come to the UK.
All expenses paid for by the British taxpayer.👌
Be aware though if you miss these boats you will have to be like any other law abiding person and confirm to the rules and laws of the UK. |
I have a better solution. What about a 1 in 1 out system like a sh1te nightclub? I'd happily trade you for any human being willing to cross the channel in a dingy |  | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:42 - Jul 24 with 655 views | Seablu |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:28 - Jul 24 by NewcyBlue |
In the land of the witless, you would be king..
I’d happily swap a refugee for you though. |
I’d take a boatload in exchange for him.
Utterly disgusting human being. |  | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:42 - Jul 24 with 653 views | bazza |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:28 - Jul 24 by NewcyBlue |
In the land of the witless, you would be king..
I’d happily swap a refugee for you though. |
I’d genuinely clear the whole french coast and welcome everyone of them here if we can background check them and make sure they are not a danger to the public, the money we waste trying to keep Them Out would cover it, give them apprenticeships or jobs, problem solved. I’ve never once said I wouldn’t want them here. Just for the record. There’s a enough spare jobs.. and they clearly have the common sense to realise this is a better country to live than Europe. |  | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:55 - Jul 24 with 569 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 12:42 - Jul 24 by bazza |
I’d genuinely clear the whole french coast and welcome everyone of them here if we can background check them and make sure they are not a danger to the public, the money we waste trying to keep Them Out would cover it, give them apprenticeships or jobs, problem solved. I’ve never once said I wouldn’t want them here. Just for the record. There’s a enough spare jobs.. and they clearly have the common sense to realise this is a better country to live than Europe. |
I’m not entirely sure how much of a background check you will get on someone fleeing a war torn country. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:57 - Jul 24 with 563 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:55 - Jul 24 by NewcyBlue |
I’m not entirely sure how much of a background check you will get on someone fleeing a war torn country. |
From a home office document, freely available online:
Important functions of the asylum screening process
Each of the functions of the asylum screening process below must be completed to identify the claimant, register the claim and appropriately route the claimant into the asylum process:
- gather biometrics - fingerprints and photographs, see system and security checks
- carry out, record and act on identity and security checks, see system and security checks
- establish immigration status - this may happen as part of the enforcement or port encounter
- establish, as far as possible, any health or medical concerns, disabilities, vulnerability indicators or other safeguarding concerns- these are to be noted along with any reasonable adjustments made for the claimant to access the asylum procedure including provision of suitable accommodation and any safeguarding actions undertaken
- complete an initial contact and registration (screening) questionnaire (ASL.3211Main), which includes:
o taking personal details - including name, aliases, gender, date of birth,
nationality, language and dialect
Page 13 of 85 Published for Home Office staff on 31 December 2020
o establishing a brief basis of claim by succinctly capturing the main basis of the claimant’s fear of return, including who they fear, why and key dates
o establishing what documents the claimant has and if they relate to their identity, their journey to the UK or supports their claim
o obtaining important health information as well as information about the claimant or their dependants that may have access needs, perceived vulnerabilities, safeguarding concerns or modern slavery indicators
o asking criminality and security questions
o establishing, where applicable, what the person was doing in the UK prior to
claiming asylum, their method of entry and travel route to the UK, including third country (a country that they are not a national of) details for consideration of whether the claim may be inadmissible
o if they did claim asylum in a third country, what was the outcome, if they did not claim why not, length of time spent in third countries and the basis of their presence there, what other countries do they have connections with
o establishing details of any partner, children and other relatives and their whereabouts assists with evidence gathering for any future family reunion application or inadmissibility
o establishing, where applicable, suitability for detention
- gather information to assist with onward routing including information pertinent
to any decision to detain or to continue to detain
- register an application for a biometric residence permit (BRP) | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:13 - Jul 24 with 540 views | bazza |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:57 - Jul 24 by NewcyBlue |
From a home office document, freely available online:
Important functions of the asylum screening process
Each of the functions of the asylum screening process below must be completed to identify the claimant, register the claim and appropriately route the claimant into the asylum process:
- gather biometrics - fingerprints and photographs, see system and security checks
- carry out, record and act on identity and security checks, see system and security checks
- establish immigration status - this may happen as part of the enforcement or port encounter
- establish, as far as possible, any health or medical concerns, disabilities, vulnerability indicators or other safeguarding concerns- these are to be noted along with any reasonable adjustments made for the claimant to access the asylum procedure including provision of suitable accommodation and any safeguarding actions undertaken
- complete an initial contact and registration (screening) questionnaire (ASL.3211Main), which includes:
o taking personal details - including name, aliases, gender, date of birth,
nationality, language and dialect
Page 13 of 85 Published for Home Office staff on 31 December 2020
o establishing a brief basis of claim by succinctly capturing the main basis of the claimant’s fear of return, including who they fear, why and key dates
o establishing what documents the claimant has and if they relate to their identity, their journey to the UK or supports their claim
o obtaining important health information as well as information about the claimant or their dependants that may have access needs, perceived vulnerabilities, safeguarding concerns or modern slavery indicators
o asking criminality and security questions
o establishing, where applicable, what the person was doing in the UK prior to
claiming asylum, their method of entry and travel route to the UK, including third country (a country that they are not a national of) details for consideration of whether the claim may be inadmissible
o if they did claim asylum in a third country, what was the outcome, if they did not claim why not, length of time spent in third countries and the basis of their presence there, what other countries do they have connections with
o establishing details of any partner, children and other relatives and their whereabouts assists with evidence gathering for any future family reunion application or inadmissibility
o establishing, where applicable, suitability for detention
- gather information to assist with onward routing including information pertinent
to any decision to detain or to continue to detain
- register an application for a biometric residence permit (BRP) |
Would you agree that if you have asylum seekers that have entered the country illegally or even trying legally,and make it difficult to do such background checks, we should reject the claim? I’m sure I read somewhere that most of the illegal entries are picked up straight away a majority of time by authorities , and seek asylum, refugee status? ..this entitles them to full support, I agree it’s not living the high life, but if they are then successful and have a genuine case and have all the necessary documentation and clean criminal record, gets granted asylum… | | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:18 - Jul 24 with 534 views | bazza |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 13:55 - Jul 24 by NewcyBlue |
I’m not entirely sure how much of a background check you will get on someone fleeing a war torn country. |
Sorry, didn’t see this before I replied.. it’s a difficult one I know, but I bet it’s what’s on most people minds as opposed to just not wanting refugees here. | | | |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:21 - Jul 24 with 530 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:13 - Jul 24 by bazza |
Would you agree that if you have asylum seekers that have entered the country illegally or even trying legally,and make it difficult to do such background checks, we should reject the claim? I’m sure I read somewhere that most of the illegal entries are picked up straight away a majority of time by authorities , and seek asylum, refugee status? ..this entitles them to full support, I agree it’s not living the high life, but if they are then successful and have a genuine case and have all the necessary documentation and clean criminal record, gets granted asylum… |
No. I don’t understand how somebody can enter the country illegally.
People have entered the country, seeking refuge.
I imagine the background checks will be difficult anyway, hence long processing times.
I don’t believe in labelling a group of people who have entered the country as undesirable without any evidence to suggest that they are.
I imagine many will have had to beg, borrow, or steal their way through life. | |
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| "Illegal immigrants" on 14:24 - Jul 24 with 519 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| "Illegal immigrants" on 08:31 - Jul 24 by bluejacko |
Ok I will say it again! These ‘asylum’ seekers have come all the way across Europe to try and enter the UK “illegally”. If they are truly after asylum they have had lots of chances to apply in all those countries they have traveled through. Instead they see the UK as the land of milk and honey and risk the crossing to apply for the benefits that they will be granted as soon as they sign up with a ‘human rights’ lawyer! Ask the people of Dover,Folkestone and all along the Kent coast what impact this is having on their council’s and local services and I reckon not many will share your views.
Ask the lorry drivers who can’t stop within 100kms of Calais without the risk of stowaways and a £2000 fine per person if they are found on their lorry due to no fault of their own. I doubt they will share your views either.
Are you and your mates willing to put up some of these people at your expense and not mine or the other taxpayers who would rather see our money spent looking after own.I will hazard a guess and say probably not! [Post edited 24 Jul 2021 8:33]
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Please share some figures for how much these asylum seekers are costing us in our taxes.
You seem to have swallowed the line of those who use the loaded language referred to in the OP.
Perhaps you might then like to look at the total value of contracts awarded by this Government to companies that will never fulfil them (and are run by their donors/relatives etc.).
Your focus is in entirely the wrong place and exactly where this Government wants it to be! |  |
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