| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads 12:54 - Sep 7 with 13504 views | chicoazul |
He’s putting NI contributions up! Will this crazy fascist government never learn??? |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 00:20 - Sep 9 with 1180 views | HARRY10 |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 22:56 - Sep 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Stop being so nice about boomers...a largely odious, self serving, self centred mob, fed on free further education and then sucking at the nipple of the property owning bubble unleashed by Thatcher and preaching about living within your means to those trailing in their wake. |
remember, to anyone under the age of 20 a person over 40 is a boomer
the problem we currently have is an economy based on personal debt, underpinned by rising house prices - one that would collapse (as in 1990)almost overnight were interest rates to rise
it is maintained by a rigged market - one which would be broken up were it to involve any other commodity, ie keeping supply well below demand
it is becoming an ever more precarious market as more and ore who would be entering the market are priced out
but the good news is history has taught us that no bubble ever bursts.....of course not  |  | | |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 10:50 - Sep 9 with 1085 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 19:51 - Sep 8 by HARRY10 |
One of the causes of a growing rightwing is as a reaction to more tolerance and equality in society in general. It is not too difficult to foster a sense of 'them' taking stuff from you (see Germant 1930s and the Jews)
For the UK it is EU workers taking jobs .... which UK workers are all too often unable to take.
For the US it is the fear that 'non whites' are taking over
Whilst it might be difficult for normal folk to grasp how some are so easily fooled and controlled, it should be seen in the context of some being subjected to decades of subtle propaganda. The EU has consistently been portrayed as a malign force that has attempted to ban Xmas, forced the UK to ban hedgehog flavoured crisps and stop white children from eating conkers.
Any of these absurd claims never stand more than a few seconds of scrutiny, yet are routinely regurgitated by the easily led.
The question which follows, is how much of this is nature and how much nurture.
Why were so many easily able to see through the lies of Johnson, Farage, Rees-Mogg etc and so many were taken in ? |
"Eating conkers"??? |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 10:55 - Sep 9 with 1074 views | giant_stow |
Thought of you and this thread when I read this:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/08/real-tories-will-never-forgive-boris
That's one serious pissed off man!
Edit: for those without a free pass or subscription, highlights include:
"Shame on Boris Johnson, and shame on the Conservative Party. They have disgraced themselves, lied to their voters, repudiated their principles and treated millions of their supporters with utter contempt. And for what?... To be complicit in the moral destruction of the Conservative Party?"
"This is a seminal moment in British politics..."
"Promising not to raise or to cut taxes was always the one weapon Labour couldn’t match, the most powerful way to remind voters that the socialists would steal their money; now any such pledge would remind voters that the Tories are utterly untrustworthy."
"The NHS will have become the state, and the state will have become the NHS: Clement Attlee’s socialist government couldn’t have imagined just how powerful its Left-wing choice of a health funding and delivery mechanism would turn out to be at destroying conservatism and capitalism."
"Just when the Left thought they had lost, their assumptions shattered by Brexit, their triumph is about to be near total."
"The National Insurance increase is not merely an unforgivable manifesto broken promise: it symbolises the party’s repudiation of the conservative and classical liberal world view, its rejection of Burke, Locke, Hayek, Friedman and Oakeshott. "
"Reaganomics is dead in Britain: there are now two Labour parties at one on economics, but divided on culture. How bitterly, heartbreakingly disappointing."
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:13 - Sep 9 with 1041 views | Darth_Koont |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 10:55 - Sep 9 by giant_stow |
Thought of you and this thread when I read this:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/08/real-tories-will-never-forgive-boris
That's one serious pissed off man!
Edit: for those without a free pass or subscription, highlights include:
"Shame on Boris Johnson, and shame on the Conservative Party. They have disgraced themselves, lied to their voters, repudiated their principles and treated millions of their supporters with utter contempt. And for what?... To be complicit in the moral destruction of the Conservative Party?"
"This is a seminal moment in British politics..."
"Promising not to raise or to cut taxes was always the one weapon Labour couldn’t match, the most powerful way to remind voters that the socialists would steal their money; now any such pledge would remind voters that the Tories are utterly untrustworthy."
"The NHS will have become the state, and the state will have become the NHS: Clement Attlee’s socialist government couldn’t have imagined just how powerful its Left-wing choice of a health funding and delivery mechanism would turn out to be at destroying conservatism and capitalism."
"Just when the Left thought they had lost, their assumptions shattered by Brexit, their triumph is about to be near total."
"The National Insurance increase is not merely an unforgivable manifesto broken promise: it symbolises the party’s repudiation of the conservative and classical liberal world view, its rejection of Burke, Locke, Hayek, Friedman and Oakeshott. "
"Reaganomics is dead in Britain: there are now two Labour parties at one on economics, but divided on culture. How bitterly, heartbreakingly disappointing."
[Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:00]
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The NI hike is wrong and nasty. But this guy sounds even more deluded and an even bigger c@#%. |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:34 - Sep 9 with 983 views | J2BLUE |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 22:56 - Sep 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Stop being so nice about boomers...a largely odious, self serving, self centred mob, fed on free further education and then sucking at the nipple of the property owning bubble unleashed by Thatcher and preaching about living within your means to those trailing in their wake. |
The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest.
We're so obsessed with the boomers. Two recent generations had a world war to deal with. The boomers got the financial boom. Millennials like me (I despise the tag) have advantages that they didn't have. The next generation have advantages my generation didn't have.
Each generation has to play the hand it has been dealt.
Full disclaimer: I own a property where the deposit was paid with family silver so maybe I have no right to say what I've said, but I do believe it's true. I'm a little tired of the relentless attacks on the boomers. We have advantages they could not even dream of. |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:34 - Sep 9 with 983 views | giant_stow |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:13 - Sep 9 by Darth_Koont |
The NI hike is wrong and nasty. But this guy sounds even more deluded and an even bigger c@#%. |
I just don't know enough about the NI thing to have a proper opinion, but can wholeheartedly agree about the author!
Edit: interesting how beaten down he sounds about the general trends though. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:35]
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:36 - Sep 9 with 966 views | DanTheMan |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:34 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest.
We're so obsessed with the boomers. Two recent generations had a world war to deal with. The boomers got the financial boom. Millennials like me (I despise the tag) have advantages that they didn't have. The next generation have advantages my generation didn't have.
Each generation has to play the hand it has been dealt.
Full disclaimer: I own a property where the deposit was paid with family silver so maybe I have no right to say what I've said, but I do believe it's true. I'm a little tired of the relentless attacks on the boomers. We have advantages they could not even dream of. |
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
I'd be interested to hear what they are. |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:38 - Sep 9 with 954 views | Darth_Koont |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:34 - Sep 9 by giant_stow |
I just don't know enough about the NI thing to have a proper opinion, but can wholeheartedly agree about the author!
Edit: interesting how beaten down he sounds about the general trends though. [Post edited 9 Sep 2021 11:35]
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What general trend? | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:43 - Sep 9 with 937 views | J2BLUE |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:36 - Sep 9 by DanTheMan |
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
I'd be interested to hear what they are. |
Growing up with the internet. A device in our pockets with instant access to information. Advances in healthcare. Advances in communications. The ability for flexible working (Millennials now quitting rather than returning to the office).
There are plenty. Some are things we take for granted like advances in healthcare etc because every generation gets that. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:44 - Sep 9 with 932 views | giant_stow |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:38 - Sep 9 by Darth_Koont |
What general trend? |
Him talking about the UK State and NHS becoming so intertwined / labour losing battles but winning the long term war because of it. He seems to feel like the right has lost. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:52 - Sep 9 with 902 views | Darth_Koont |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:44 - Sep 9 by giant_stow |
Him talking about the UK State and NHS becoming so intertwined / labour losing battles but winning the long term war because of it. He seems to feel like the right has lost. |
His brand of ultra-free market lunacy may have lost but not sure that’s been in vogue since the 80s.
Still way too much neoliberalist influence of course. But this guy is off the scale. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:58 - Sep 9 with 888 views | giant_stow |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:52 - Sep 9 by Darth_Koont |
His brand of ultra-free market lunacy may have lost but not sure that’s been in vogue since the 80s.
Still way too much neoliberalist influence of course. But this guy is off the scale. |
Yeah, having read him over the years, I think he's about as neoliberal as they come. Or if there is a more extreme version of him, I shudder at the thought. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 12:54 - Sep 9 with 843 views | DanTheMan |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:43 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
Growing up with the internet. A device in our pockets with instant access to information. Advances in healthcare. Advances in communications. The ability for flexible working (Millennials now quitting rather than returning to the office).
There are plenty. Some are things we take for granted like advances in healthcare etc because every generation gets that. |
I don't really count "we've got more technology" as meaning we can't criticise a generation for things like having access to free higher education and then removing that, or making sure that house prices are propped up to a point where the disparity between them and the average wage is ludicrous. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 12:56 - Sep 9 with 830 views | J2BLUE |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 12:54 - Sep 9 by DanTheMan |
I don't really count "we've got more technology" as meaning we can't criticise a generation for things like having access to free higher education and then removing that, or making sure that house prices are propped up to a point where the disparity between them and the average wage is ludicrous. |
There's a big difference between criticising and the post I replied to.
Just my opinion. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:28 - Sep 9 with 794 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:34 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest.
We're so obsessed with the boomers. Two recent generations had a world war to deal with. The boomers got the financial boom. Millennials like me (I despise the tag) have advantages that they didn't have. The next generation have advantages my generation didn't have.
Each generation has to play the hand it has been dealt.
Full disclaimer: I own a property where the deposit was paid with family silver so maybe I have no right to say what I've said, but I do believe it's true. I'm a little tired of the relentless attacks on the boomers. We have advantages they could not even dream of. |
"The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest."
There is no collective in boomer culture it is base selfish individualism at its worst.
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
What do you see those as being? |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:30 - Sep 9 with 789 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:36 - Sep 9 by DanTheMan |
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
I'd be interested to hear what they are. |
Ha....beaten to it! | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:33 - Sep 9 with 783 views | J2BLUE |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:28 - Sep 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest."
There is no collective in boomer culture it is base selfish individualism at its worst.
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
What do you see those as being? |
Silly. Cleary broad stroke black and white opinions are all you can handle.
As above. Most technology based but lumping the internet in with tech advances feels like trying too hard to maintain the current anti boomer opinion.
If you could magically move yourself in time, and put yourself back however many generations it would be so you were the age you are right now but in the boomer generation's time, would you? Everything about your life that can be the same is the same. Would you do it? | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:42 - Sep 9 with 769 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:28 - Sep 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
"The boomer generation get a ton of hate but they could only play the hand they were dealt. Any generation would collectively look out for their own interest."
There is no collective in boomer culture it is base selfish individualism at its worst.
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
What do you see those as being? |
"Base selfish individualism"
Dang! I'm going to have to stop all this doing stuff to help others then and concentrate on myself more....or maybe I should undergo a bout of public flogging and a few stints in the stocks... | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:50 - Sep 9 with 744 views | itfcjoe |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:36 - Sep 9 by DanTheMan |
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
I'd be interested to hear what they are. |
The ability to rent their second and third properties? |  |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:56 - Sep 9 with 726 views | J2BLUE |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:50 - Sep 9 by itfcjoe |
The ability to rent their second and third properties? |
Seems to be some confusion here. I am not claiming we have it better than them. Just that some things are massively better.
Take the last 5-6 generations. Millennials would probably rank about mid table. We have not faced a world war. We have some big advantages as well as some things which are not good. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 14:06 - Sep 9 with 703 views | leitrimblue |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 11:36 - Sep 9 by DanTheMan |
"We have advantages they could not even dream of."
I'd be interested to hear what they are. |
Indoor toilets, pot noodle, large cigarette papers, ciabatta, crack, remote control colour tv, TWTD? |  | | |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 14:27 - Sep 9 with 666 views | Darth_Koont |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:56 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
Seems to be some confusion here. I am not claiming we have it better than them. Just that some things are massively better.
Take the last 5-6 generations. Millennials would probably rank about mid table. We have not faced a world war. We have some big advantages as well as some things which are not good. |
But successive generations used to have it better, now they look like having it worse.
That seems a pretty retrograde step when we now know a lot more about well-being, society and well, almost everything. Almost as if we’ve turned our back on that and disenfranchised a generation to suit those who’ve accumulated the wealth and power. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 14:33 - Sep 9 with 641 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:42 - Sep 9 by Ewan_Oozami |
"Base selfish individualism"
Dang! I'm going to have to stop all this doing stuff to help others then and concentrate on myself more....or maybe I should undergo a bout of public flogging and a few stints in the stocks... |
If it helps then I am a boomer too...obviously talking about generations requires generalisation. However, base selfish individualism pretty much sums up what I observed particularly from the middle classes upwards! | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 14:37 - Sep 9 with 634 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 13:33 - Sep 9 by J2BLUE |
Silly. Cleary broad stroke black and white opinions are all you can handle.
As above. Most technology based but lumping the internet in with tech advances feels like trying too hard to maintain the current anti boomer opinion.
If you could magically move yourself in time, and put yourself back however many generations it would be so you were the age you are right now but in the boomer generation's time, would you? Everything about your life that can be the same is the same. Would you do it? |
Yes. | |
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| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 15:09 - Sep 9 with 583 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| That mad right winger Boris Johnson is at it again lads on 14:33 - Sep 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
If it helps then I am a boomer too...obviously talking about generations requires generalisation. However, base selfish individualism pretty much sums up what I observed particularly from the middle classes upwards! |
You're a boomer????
OMG!
Mind blown! | |
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