| The manager will always carry the can but 18:43 - Sep 11 with 1240 views | CopfordBlue |
our players are getting off very lightly on here. All the talk pre-season from players about how much quality there was in the squad etc etc. Very few of them have shown much at all other than a few flashes here and there.
Evans and Harper looked promising in the first game and the two pre-season home games. Awful since. They’re not the only ones either. Car park full of big flashy cars as usual. Maybe Keane was right about Ipswich - players come here for a nice easy life, polite fans and big wages. |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:46 - Sep 11 with 1206 views | chrismakin |
TBF to them though, they went into the game with the understanding that things take time from the gaffa. I know the pre match interview comments would bite us in the backside. It's just not the way to get your players motivated.
We may lose, but we're gelling. fine think it, but don't publically announce it before the game and then expect the players to feel all positive and ready to bust a gut |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:47 - Sep 11 with 1188 views | homer_123 |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:46 - Sep 11 by chrismakin |
TBF to them though, they went into the game with the understanding that things take time from the gaffa. I know the pre match interview comments would bite us in the backside. It's just not the way to get your players motivated.
We may lose, but we're gelling. fine think it, but don't publically announce it before the game and then expect the players to feel all positive and ready to bust a gut |
You read far too much into comments. |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:48 - Sep 11 with 1170 views | wkj |
You can't throw coaching out. Many of our goals against have been crap set pieces (this season and last). Also, Cook's subs baffle more often than not (again, both this season and last)
The fact Evans and Harper are shrinking isn't ability either - it is confidence. When a team is playing without confidence, the coaches and managers are the ones that have to facilitate change and help get the confidence back. |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:49 - Sep 11 with 1166 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:46 - Sep 11 by chrismakin |
TBF to them though, they went into the game with the understanding that things take time from the gaffa. I know the pre match interview comments would bite us in the backside. It's just not the way to get your players motivated.
We may lose, but we're gelling. fine think it, but don't publically announce it before the game and then expect the players to feel all positive and ready to bust a gut |
A manager can't use the 'gelling' excuse, and then give 3 debuts in the same match.
Exacerbating his own problems.
It's all on Cook today I'm afraid.
Time for excuses has long passed. |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:51 - Sep 11 with 1150 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Can you find me a club of 'our size' that has a car park full of sh1t cars? | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:51 - Sep 11 with 1148 views | chrismakin |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:47 - Sep 11 by homer_123 |
You read far too much into comments. |
Most of the time yes
But I think it's acceptable in this respect.
We're yet to win, day before home game, and the talk is of why we might not win, rather than confidence of being in a position to win the game | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:53 - Sep 11 with 1128 views | AlanG296 |
Beginning to think that the players while probably having good quality at this level lack the mental strength to cope with the level of expectation at this club now. Opposition will never lie down for us, we will have to fight for everything we get. Are they up for it? [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 18:54]
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:55 - Sep 11 with 1101 views | BlueBadger |
Cook has had two entirely different sets of players. He's failed with one set and he's presently failing with another.
We have been SO unlucky to have 50+ bad eggs in such a short space of time... |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:57 - Sep 11 with 1070 views | chrismakin |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:53 - Sep 11 by AlanG296 |
Beginning to think that the players while probably having good quality at this level lack the mental strength to cope with the level of expectation at this club now. Opposition will never lie down for us, we will have to fight for everything we get. Are they up for it? [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 18:54]
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Or is it just a simple case of 22 individuals who looked better with 10 other players around them at their previous clubs
Wyke for example at Wigan, where's his goals without the supply he was getting at Sunderland ( Appreciate where Wigan are, but hope you get where im coming from)
At MK Dons, it was set up in a way that allowed Fraser to roam
at Fleetwood, Burns came from deep
Piggot was uptop in a 2
Backline.. with different partners | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:59 - Sep 11 with 1063 views | homer_123 |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:51 - Sep 11 by chrismakin |
Most of the time yes
But I think it's acceptable in this respect.
We're yet to win, day before home game, and the talk is of why we might not win, rather than confidence of being in a position to win the game |
You seem to think the players pay heed to what PC says in a press conference.
I'd be far more interested to see and hear what happens at training, pre match in the changing rooms etc. | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 19:15 - Sep 11 with 986 views | Churchman |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:48 - Sep 11 by wkj |
You can't throw coaching out. Many of our goals against have been crap set pieces (this season and last). Also, Cook's subs baffle more often than not (again, both this season and last)
The fact Evans and Harper are shrinking isn't ability either - it is confidence. When a team is playing without confidence, the coaches and managers are the ones that have to facilitate change and help get the confidence back. |
I don’t disagree and Cook is fully accountable for this dreadful mess. However, the players have to have something about them too. Even if they’re feeling a bit lost, off form, whatever. Good players will just work harder, will take s9me responsibility.
It needs more than the manager and his flunkeys. It needs guts and determination from players. Characters. Do we have that or are there too many poor players/journeymen in the squad?
Other clubs have had a big turnaround and they are not getting thrashed at home or are deservedly sitting at the bottom of the league. |  | | |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 19:44 - Sep 11 with 908 views | CopfordBlue |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:51 - Sep 11 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Can you find me a club of 'our size' that has a car park full of sh1t cars? |
That’s kind of my point. They want to play for a big club and like all the good things that come with it, but at the moment they aren’t performing to the standard expected. | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 19:53 - Sep 11 with 868 views | townblue |
Do me a favour. We had this last season then Cook binned them all off. His players now, so his responsibility. |  | | |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 19:57 - Sep 11 with 844 views | Swansea_Blue |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:47 - Sep 11 by homer_123 |
You read far too much into comments. |
In fairness to makin, he’s not so much reading anything into the comments as simply paraphrasing Cook. He literally said we weren’t ready and aren’t fit. Words matter. I’m not convinced Cookie is the brightest really, but don’t tell anyone! |  |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 20:07 - Sep 11 with 799 views | Oldboy |
His players, his job to get them playing. They are quick to take the praise, so have to take the blame as well. |  | | |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 06:08 - Sep 12 with 587 views | BlueBadger |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 18:53 - Sep 11 by AlanG296 |
Beginning to think that the players while probably having good quality at this level lack the mental strength to cope with the level of expectation at this club now. Opposition will never lie down for us, we will have to fight for everything we get. Are they up for it? [Post edited 11 Sep 2021 18:54]
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Paul Cook must the unluckiest manager in the world having TWO whole sets of players like this in such a short succession... | |
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| The manager will always carry the can but on 06:59 - Sep 12 with 521 views | ColchesterBlue1985 |
| The manager will always carry the can but on 06:08 - Sep 12 by BlueBadger |
Paul Cook must the unluckiest manager in the world having TWO whole sets of players like this in such a short succession... |
The club made it clear buying each player was about character as much as it was ability!!
Make no mistake Ashton and O’Leary will be making contingency plans should this form continue for much longer. If we get to 10 games and still haven’t won a game then he will be gone plain and simple. | | | |
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