| Left side of pitch 21:53 - Oct 22 with 5108 views | chrismakin |
I'm not sure Aluko will be as effective in the left.
I don't feel Fraser has enough agility for the left side either
Celina I feel is more of a 10 but we have Chaplin and celina slows everything down.
Edwards.. 0 end product
Do we go with a Coulsen/ Penney left hand side?
Penney seemingly has enjoyed a more attacking role in the past.
Who would you pick for that important left side role. [Post edited 22 Oct 2021 22:42]
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| Left side of pitch on 09:07 - Oct 23 with 1764 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 08:42 - Oct 23 by Oldboy |
Going by your logic, I'll say Hladky is perfect for that role. 
The best way of getting the best out of your team is to play them in their best position.
Playing a left back as a left wing isn't the way forward.
Ps. Leave SB alone, he has been here a hell of a lot longer than most, so please stop telling people how they should act. |
Who are you to tell me how to act then. I've been posting longer than you have.... going by your logic of course. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:10 - Oct 23 with 1749 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 08:03 - Oct 23 by Strimmer |
If you don’t think Edwards is worth persevering with over a long time, and I’m talking a whole season territory here, to mould into a player that can post numbers, then I don’t know what to say. This writing players of obvious ability off so quick is so so brainless. Really quite dispiriting mate! |
Of course he may become something.
But we've sent one on loan who is as flashy. And we had one on loan last season who did the same. I'm yet to see anything that makes me think ooo we've signed a worldie which alot of people seem to think we have. But he has time in his favour. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:13 - Oct 23 with 1745 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Celina seems to have done his best work on the left.
For me Chaplin is the 10. He's played well there, and he's our own player, so makes sense long term. |  |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:16 - Oct 23 with 1744 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 09:13 - Oct 23 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Celina seems to have done his best work on the left.
For me Chaplin is the 10. He's played well there, and he's our own player, so makes sense long term. |
Thanks MM.
I'm chuffed for Chaplin. Great little player.
Celina I'm just unsure of at the moment. It's a tight call between him and fraser on the left, both don't really have the pace to get at players but both able to find a yard to spread the play. Could just be that we see so much fast attacking from the right you almost miss is on the other side. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:23 - Oct 23 with 1736 views | pointofblue |
chrismakin - in fairness, I made the proposal early on that could Coulsen and Penney work together on the left. I still think, in an emergency, they could but it was fairly pointed out at Tyne time that we’ve signed a lot of wingers who to try out wide without resorting to doubling up on left backs.
I think six positions seen pretty secure at the moment: Donacien, Edmundson, Morsy, Evans, Chaplin and Bonne. Walton and Nsiala look to have first dibs in goal and as second centre back after Tuesday whilst Penney is left back by default due to Coulsen’s injury. That leaves the wide positions up for grab with Burns and Aluko possibly rotating on the right to keep both fresh.
I personally agree with you regarding Edwards - lot of pace but very little in way of end product at the moment - and Fraser is not a wide player; him floating behind the ten can leave us exposed or lacking options. Celina is probably our best option out there but with Coulsen and Penney’s ability to actually deliver a cross I don’t think the view should just be dismissed out of hand, especially if we’re looking to sure up a game late on. |  |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:36 - Oct 23 with 1720 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 09:23 - Oct 23 by pointofblue |
chrismakin - in fairness, I made the proposal early on that could Coulsen and Penney work together on the left. I still think, in an emergency, they could but it was fairly pointed out at Tyne time that we’ve signed a lot of wingers who to try out wide without resorting to doubling up on left backs.
I think six positions seen pretty secure at the moment: Donacien, Edmundson, Morsy, Evans, Chaplin and Bonne. Walton and Nsiala look to have first dibs in goal and as second centre back after Tuesday whilst Penney is left back by default due to Coulsen’s injury. That leaves the wide positions up for grab with Burns and Aluko possibly rotating on the right to keep both fresh.
I personally agree with you regarding Edwards - lot of pace but very little in way of end product at the moment - and Fraser is not a wide player; him floating behind the ten can leave us exposed or lacking options. Celina is probably our best option out there but with Coulsen and Penney’s ability to actually deliver a cross I don’t think the view should just be dismissed out of hand, especially if we’re looking to sure up a game late on. |
Cheers POB.
I'm surprised it's been highly frowned upon tbh altho it was frowned upon when I said aluko should play last week, so I'll take it as who posted the thought rather than what was the actual thought.
Anyway. Good to see someone does see a potential move there if needed. I think penney had indeed shown a Burns type attacking threat. And actually has a great delivery by the byline and as we saw can certainly hit the ball too. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 09:46 - Oct 23 with 1705 views | franz_tyson |
On form I’d put Aluko on the left and Burns on the right. But not sure how effective Aluko will be on the left. I’m still not convinced about Celina and if we really need him. Too lightweight and Edwards has not come up with the assists or goals yet.
I’d experiment with aluko on the left, but after him I’d go with Fraser. Not a natural winger, but he can spot a pass and has linked well with the LB and the 10.
TBH …. all 4 options would be the envy of most L1 clubs. | | | |
| Left side of pitch on 09:49 - Oct 23 with 1697 views | TractorFrog |
If the question is who would I play on the left against Fleetwood today, it would be Sone Aluko. He's on great form, and it is worth trying him on the left to see if he is as effective. If it was who would I want there in the long term it would be Celina or Edwards. Edwards has struggled recently but he was superb at the start of the year, and I think if he can find that form again he will be extremely effective. Celina hasn't had a great season so far, but we saw last time he was here how good he can be on the left. So I would have Aluko for now, but to be replaced by whoever can find form first from sub appearances out of Edwards or Celina. Fraser would be fourth in the pecking order for me, but I think he should be the second choice CAM after Chaplin. [Post edited 23 Oct 2021 9:50]
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| Left side of pitch on 09:53 - Oct 23 with 1686 views | Oldboy |
| Left side of pitch on 09:07 - Oct 23 by chrismakin |
Who are you to tell me how to act then. I've been posting longer than you have.... going by your logic of course. |
In a 3-5-2 it might work, but we don't play that, so no, players in position for me. We need 2 quality players in each position, so asking Penney to learn 2 different roles is a disaster.
As for SB, I may have worded it wrong, apologies, but you know what I meant. SB has been posting on here for years so knows how it works. Doesn't need telling. |  | | |
| Left side of pitch on 12:00 - Oct 23 with 1630 views | TomTheWriter |
As it stands, Bonne and Chaplin should be nailed on as the striker and the 10. Burns is our most explosive player behind the striker. Aluko is playing with confidence I’ve not see from him in a few years.
BUT, I don’t think we can play both Burns and Aluko together. Sone likes to come inside on his left foot, goal against Cambridge was impressive with his left. Goal against Pompey was a weak right-footed shot, poor goalkeeping. Aluko works best on the right, same as Wes Burns.
Think, on current form, Sone starts again today on the right, with Burns getting 30 minutes against a tiring defence.
On the left, it’s the ‘worst’ position in the front four. All very talented, but no one has taken the opportunity handed to them. Fraser against Shrews and Cambridge, bit meh. Edwards against Pompey, started well but tailed off. I’d like to see Celina start today on the left, see how he does.
On Burns, started his career as a winger, then as a wing back in Fleetwood’s 3-5-2, then covered at right back for the tail end of last season. He claims his favoured position is as a wing-back, think he could be excellent in our own 3-5-2 with Coulson on the other side. |  |
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| Left side of pitch on 12:20 - Oct 23 with 1607 views | TractorCam |
| Left side of pitch on 23:06 - Oct 22 by chrismakin |
Disagree all you like about my thoughts not a problem, be a grown up and supply you own.
See that wasn't so hard.
I haven't decided celina is a 10 he's been playing Central for a fair while and in France especially.
Edwards. There's no mistake. 0 assists. 0 goals. 0 successful crosses. I would say plenty of running into a man tho. Bennetts got moaned at for that. Edwards gets erm cheers. Bizarre.
I bet you love Burns tho. You know the fullback turned midfielder. |
Not sure I have the brain capacity to read any further, and this has almost certainly been repeated to you, but i'll say it as well.
Burns has never been and never will be a defender. He played in a wing back to suit Fleetwood's system but is clearly a winger and was well known that he was signed for us to play there. Hope this helps.
As for the OP, my order is: Edwards, Celina/Aluko, Fraser/Chaplin, Barry, Penney/Coulson. [Post edited 23 Oct 2021 12:27]
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| Left side of pitch on 12:27 - Oct 23 with 1598 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 12:20 - Oct 23 by TractorCam |
Not sure I have the brain capacity to read any further, and this has almost certainly been repeated to you, but i'll say it as well.
Burns has never been and never will be a defender. He played in a wing back to suit Fleetwood's system but is clearly a winger and was well known that he was signed for us to play there. Hope this helps.
As for the OP, my order is: Edwards, Celina/Aluko, Fraser/Chaplin, Barry, Penney/Coulson. [Post edited 23 Oct 2021 12:27]
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Played as fullback many times prior to Fleetwood . Again his career isn't just ipswich and also isn't just Fleetwood.
It's not even a thread about burns anyway. It's about potentially a player doing what Burns has done and potentially being able to play both roles. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 12:47 - Oct 23 with 1590 views | matt92 |
Plenty of end product from Edwards. End product doesn't have to be goals, or even assists - he makes opposition defenders nervous, he distracts them with his skill and direct running. Once he finds his feet and gets more assists and goals he will be undroppable. | | | |
| Left side of pitch on 10:03 - Oct 25 with 1499 views | MarkoW1 |
| Left side of pitch on 00:36 - Oct 23 by SomethingBlue |
Edwards when we need one thing, Celina when we need another. Certainly not Coulson/Penney!! |
Wow- just watched Saturdays highlights (again) and Penney was in the build up to both goals:
Penney -Morsy-Chaps
Penney-Evans-JD -Celina
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| Left side of pitch on 10:04 - Oct 25 with 1495 views | wkj |
| Left side of pitch on 10:03 - Oct 25 by MarkoW1 |
Wow- just watched Saturdays highlights (again) and Penney was in the build up to both goals:
Penney -Morsy-Chaps
Penney-Evans-JD -Celina
Wouldn’t underestimate anyone |
I like Penney, but he is quite slow sometimes. I hope he finds a bit of speed and sharpens his reactions a bit, then we'll have a great player. |  |
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| Left side of pitch on 10:05 - Oct 25 with 1497 views | chicoazul |
Edwards. |  |
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| Left side of pitch on 10:17 - Oct 25 with 1476 views | DinDjarin |
| Left side of pitch on 22:39 - Oct 22 by chrismakin |
Playing penney further forward is no different to playing Fraser there who admitted its new to him where as Penney has indeed played further forwards previously.
It's interesting how you view it considering we have a wingback playing further forward on the right in Burns. |
Did you not listen to Frasers interview a few weeks ago where he confirmed he is used to playing wide left?
Not sure why everyone has him bang to rights as a no 10 when he says himself thats not his position. |  | | |
| Left side of pitch on 11:19 - Oct 25 with 1459 views | vanmunt |
What are you playing at chris, your posting seems quite erratic lately. |  | | |
| Left side of pitch on 11:41 - Oct 25 with 1439 views | Oldboy |
| Left side of pitch on 12:27 - Oct 23 by chrismakin |
Played as fullback many times prior to Fleetwood . Again his career isn't just ipswich and also isn't just Fleetwood.
It's not even a thread about burns anyway. It's about potentially a player doing what Burns has done and potentially being able to play both roles. |
What happened to the Plymouth thread?
I was enjoying the discussion as to if they will play 4 up top against us or not.
Did someone say something naughty? | | | |
| Left side of pitch on 11:56 - Oct 25 with 1419 views | DinDjarin |
| Left side of pitch on 12:27 - Oct 23 by chrismakin |
Played as fullback many times prior to Fleetwood . Again his career isn't just ipswich and also isn't just Fleetwood.
It's not even a thread about burns anyway. It's about potentially a player doing what Burns has done and potentially being able to play both roles. |
Probably because they did not have the squad depth to cover injuries.
Pretty sure he will never be asked to play right back here. | | | |
| Left side of pitch on 12:24 - Oct 25 with 1392 views | DavoIPB |
Its a good job non of us are managing this club. Shows what we know. Edwards, Aluko superb against fleetwood, Burns made a big impact when he came on and Celina was awful but finished well.
You would always start with Aluko on the right and Edwards on the left with Chaplin in the number 10. There isn't any need to change that. They are the best players for those positions. Celina is good to come on as a sub. Feel a bit sorry for Burns because he hasn't really done anything wrong other than Aluko is a quality player on top form. | | | |
| Left side of pitch on 14:10 - Oct 30 with 1280 views | chrismakin |
Of course we will have until kickoff to see where exactly penney is playing.
But just incase
Although someone has said coulson going on the right.. fk knows what formation we are playing.
Bump.. [Post edited 30 Oct 2021 14:12]
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| Left side of pitch on 14:22 - Oct 30 with 1251 views | StokieBlue |
| Left side of pitch on 14:10 - Oct 30 by chrismakin |
Of course we will have until kickoff to see where exactly penney is playing.
But just incase
Although someone has said coulson going on the right.. fk knows what formation we are playing.
Bump.. [Post edited 30 Oct 2021 14:12]
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You've changed the context though.
Your post was made when everyone was fit and was a genuine selection ahead of other people.
Clearly that is not the case today even if he plays there, it's entirely because we seem to have a number of injuries.
As it stands, I think it would be foolish to guess any formation given that team.
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| Left side of pitch on 14:25 - Oct 30 with 1245 views | chrismakin |
| Left side of pitch on 14:22 - Oct 30 by StokieBlue |
You've changed the context though.
Your post was made when everyone was fit and was a genuine selection ahead of other people.
Clearly that is not the case today even if he plays there, it's entirely because we seem to have a number of injuries.
As it stands, I think it would be foolish to guess any formation given that team.
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Well depending on who goes there he'd either be selected there instead of someone or he won't be... so it still stands ;)
But looking more like staying at lb with Edwards with him and coulsen strangely right. | |
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| Left side of pitch on 14:38 - Oct 30 with 1227 views | quad |
| Left side of pitch on 12:24 - Oct 25 by DavoIPB |
Its a good job non of us are managing this club. Shows what we know. Edwards, Aluko superb against fleetwood, Burns made a big impact when he came on and Celina was awful but finished well.
You would always start with Aluko on the right and Edwards on the left with Chaplin in the number 10. There isn't any need to change that. They are the best players for those positions. Celina is good to come on as a sub. Feel a bit sorry for Burns because he hasn't really done anything wrong other than Aluko is a quality player on top form. |
There is a need to change that. Burns should be on the right and Aluko on the left. They have both been excellent, Edwards has been very average and he was not superb against Fleetwood. Far from it. On the other hand Burns was superb against Fleetwood when he came on. | | | |
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