| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. 14:37 - Nov 18 with 11346 views | ArnieM |
And damning endorsement of what most Town fans knew anyway.
Good when he first comes in but hasn’t a clue how to take it forwards .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59327793
Edit : BCWYWF [Post edited 18 Nov 2021 14:37]
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:47 - Nov 18 with 1994 views | itfcjoe |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:33 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
didnt MM turn down the chance to further strengthen in Jan when we sat 2nd, because he didnt want to risk upsetting the squad?
i'm sure Phil said that before |
Had Evans stumped up the cash to get Wood in in January rather than February he’d have been here until the end of the season rather than called back by Leicester so he was willing to get bodies in |  |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:51 - Nov 18 with 1974 views | textbackup |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:47 - Nov 18 by Herbivore |
From memory there wasn't such a war chest available that he could go out and sign someone of proven quality that would clearly improve the team. That being the case he was reluctant to spend on someone who might come in and disrupt harmony in the squad, which was one of the main contributing factors to us being competitive that season, without any real guarantee they'd improve us. I think anyone who thinks ME was prepared to chuck him a blank cheque or even several million in that window is being naive. He might have released a bit more than he normally would have done but that doesn't go very far in the January window. As it was we signed Sears for £100k and he was very good during our run in, he was scoring not far off a goal every other game. [Post edited 18 Nov 2021 17:49]
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i'm not sure i mentioned a blank cheque.
we'll never know if player X that never came in would have made the difference or not will we. that we didnt try is frustrating obviously, and if that was down to MM making that decision then so be it. |  |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:52 - Nov 18 with 1977 views | textbackup |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:47 - Nov 18 by itfcjoe |
Had Evans stumped up the cash to get Wood in in January rather than February he’d have been here until the end of the season rather than called back by Leicester so he was willing to get bodies in |
wood was horrible unfit, no idea how long it would have taken him to get in any sort of position to become a 90min man | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:54 - Nov 18 with 1955 views | Herbivore |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:51 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
i'm not sure i mentioned a blank cheque.
we'll never know if player X that never came in would have made the difference or not will we. that we didnt try is frustrating obviously, and if that was down to MM making that decision then so be it. |
If a player had been identified that we could afford and that would have improved us I doubt Mick would have turned down the chance to sign them. When he was given money to spend he generally spent it pretty well. We were clearly looking to make signings given that we brought in Sears and as Joe mentioned, Wood on loan a bit later as well. |  |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:55 - Nov 18 with 1952 views | Herbivore |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:52 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
wood was horrible unfit, no idea how long it would have taken him to get in any sort of position to become a 90min man |
Probably just in time for the play offs. | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:57 - Nov 18 with 1958 views | Durovigutum |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 15:31 - Nov 18 by NthQldITFC |
Christ. |
MM was good, but not THAT good!? |  | | |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:57 - Nov 18 with 1962 views | davblue |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:52 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
wood was horrible unfit, no idea how long it would have taken him to get in any sort of position to become a 90min man |
Just as he was called back he was looking sharper and sharper.
Had we kept him he would have scored some goals for us. |  | | |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 18:05 - Nov 18 with 1957 views | textbackup |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:57 - Nov 18 by davblue |
Just as he was called back he was looking sharper and sharper.
Had we kept him he would have scored some goals for us. |
him fit AND murphy in that season up top together would have been a hell of a partnership/handful for defenders | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 18:08 - Nov 18 with 1958 views | itfcjoe |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:52 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
wood was horrible unfit, no idea how long it would have taken him to get in any sort of position to become a 90min man |
First time he looked as though he could be anything was Watford away when we played him and Murph up top - and then he was gone a week or two later | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:17 - Nov 18 with 1932 views | HighgateBlue |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 17:16 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
entitlement - hahahahahaha ffs. by this you mean fans simply wanting to see us try a little more than hope the murphy trick was going to work every week? |
Yes, it's all a question of priorities and preference. A number of fans were perfectly happy to see us get relegated if it meant not playing "anti football" or whatever insult they wanted to use for MM's play. Personally. I'd rather not get relegated, but horses for courses... |  | | |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:20 - Nov 18 with 1923 views | Herbivore |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:17 - Nov 18 by HighgateBlue |
Yes, it's all a question of priorities and preference. A number of fans were perfectly happy to see us get relegated if it meant not playing "anti football" or whatever insult they wanted to use for MM's play. Personally. I'd rather not get relegated, but horses for courses... |
As it was we got relegation AND sh!t football. [Post edited 18 Nov 2021 18:20]
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 18:24 - Nov 18 with 1919 views | chrismakin |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 17:54 - Nov 18 by Herbivore |
If a player had been identified that we could afford and that would have improved us I doubt Mick would have turned down the chance to sign them. When he was given money to spend he generally spent it pretty well. We were clearly looking to make signings given that we brought in Sears and as Joe mentioned, Wood on loan a bit later as well. |
Wrong herbz.
2015 Jan was offered funds. Turned it down as didn't want to hurt the current squad.
Confirmed via Phil and others previously. |  |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:27 - Nov 18 with 1913 views | textbackup |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:17 - Nov 18 by HighgateBlue |
Yes, it's all a question of priorities and preference. A number of fans were perfectly happy to see us get relegated if it meant not playing "anti football" or whatever insult they wanted to use for MM's play. Personally. I'd rather not get relegated, but horses for courses... |
there were others of the thinking "theres got to be more to football than this, short term we might be worse off, long term it might work out for the best"
hopefully on the right track now | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:28 - Nov 18 with 1906 views | Herbivore |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:27 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
there were others of the thinking "theres got to be more to football than this, short term we might be worse off, long term it might work out for the best"
hopefully on the right track now |
Got to feel we've suffered enough at this point, texters. Here's hoping. | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:34 - Nov 18 with 1899 views | chrismakin |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:27 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
there were others of the thinking "theres got to be more to football than this, short term we might be worse off, long term it might work out for the best"
hopefully on the right track now |
Thing is
Right or wrong
People who go pay good money to watch town. This may be the football itself as the reason or to meet mates etc.
It's entirely their choice how they judge it. If they felt the football was boring.. it doesn't matter about off the field or what level we are.
Why people are enjoying football at the moment.. meet friends. Watch goals. Yes we are league 1. But it's the most exciting football at town for the past 16 years without a doubt | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 19:04 - Nov 18 with 1880 views | Keaneish |
This quote is absolutely brilliant!
“But once we got the ball we didn't really know where everyone was going to be, or what to do.”
Have to say, I’m really enjoying myself this season. Norwich rock bottom and Farke sacked. Warnock sacked. McCarthy plummeting out of recognition into oblivion and Town on the up playing good football with a great backing. Get promoted and this will be one of my most favourite seasons since 2000. |  |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 19:05 - Nov 18 with 1878 views | MaySixth |
Superior manager to many in the EFL |  |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:11 - Nov 18 with 1868 views | Keaneish |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 18:17 - Nov 18 by HighgateBlue |
Yes, it's all a question of priorities and preference. A number of fans were perfectly happy to see us get relegated if it meant not playing "anti football" or whatever insult they wanted to use for MM's play. Personally. I'd rather not get relegated, but horses for courses... |
A lot of us said we may need to take a step back to go two forward. That step back meant we now have GameChanger. No-one wants to be in League One but was it worth the ignominy to free us from Evans? In my view, absolutely. | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 19:24 - Nov 18 with 1852 views | Bluespeed225 |
| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 15:10 - Nov 18 by Fixed_It |
Oh I agree. Although I think he is brought up as much by his supporters as he is by his detractors.
But this is a board that still debates Pablo v Kuqi, so there's no hope...  |
I haven’t seen a Mathie V Scowcroft thread lately, so people do move on over time. |  | | |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:27 - Nov 18 with 1849 views | Keaneish |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 17:16 - Nov 18 by textbackup |
entitlement - hahahahahaha ffs. by this you mean fans simply wanting to see us try a little more than hope the murphy trick was going to work every week? |
Ironic isn’t it Mullet crying, “Revisionism” all the time. MM came in pre - Birmingham and communicated to the fans that the ambition was promotion, yet Mullet thinks we’re “entitled”.
I still enjoy reading these threads. Is there a correlation between the staunch MM fans and those who haven’t accepted Cook yet? Seems like it to me. Make of that what you will but it speaks volumes in my view. | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:34 - Nov 18 with 1836 views | itfcjoe |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:27 - Nov 18 by Keaneish |
Ironic isn’t it Mullet crying, “Revisionism” all the time. MM came in pre - Birmingham and communicated to the fans that the ambition was promotion, yet Mullet thinks we’re “entitled”.
I still enjoy reading these threads. Is there a correlation between the staunch MM fans and those who haven’t accepted Cook yet? Seems like it to me. Make of that what you will but it speaks volumes in my view. |
Please can we see the evidence about this claim of promotion when we were 8 points away from getting out of the bottom 3, shouldn’t be too difficult to find but I genuinely can’t remember it | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:46 - Nov 18 with 1819 views | Keaneish |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:34 - Nov 18 by itfcjoe |
Please can we see the evidence about this claim of promotion when we were 8 points away from getting out of the bottom 3, shouldn’t be too difficult to find but I genuinely can’t remember it |
Yep - it’s here, dated 1st November 2012.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20153642 | |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:47 - Nov 18 with 1817 views | textbackup |
| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 19:27 - Nov 18 by Keaneish |
Ironic isn’t it Mullet crying, “Revisionism” all the time. MM came in pre - Birmingham and communicated to the fans that the ambition was promotion, yet Mullet thinks we’re “entitled”.
I still enjoy reading these threads. Is there a correlation between the staunch MM fans and those who haven’t accepted Cook yet? Seems like it to me. Make of that what you will but it speaks volumes in my view. |
I'm still waiting for Mullet to say sorry to me for blaming me for an ITFC fan trying to headbutt him at Villa away.
He blamed it on me, because the guy said my name. I wasnt even at the game.
I even offered him the guilty party as wasnt impressed at all that my name had been thrown around for absolutely no reason, yet he didnt want to know, obviously. | |
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| Cardiff players views of McCarthy…. on 20:07 - Nov 18 with 1788 views | dominiciawful |
People getting wet over Mick McCarthy baffles me. You'd think he was Guardiola. |  |
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| A Cardiff playersq views of McCarthy…. on 20:08 - Nov 18 with 1788 views | Keaneish |
Mick reaffirms his commitment to wanting to be in the PL with Town 2-years later when linked with the Villa position.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mick-mccarthy-could-tempted-aston-7
Reality is, he failed, which is OK but he did fail so I think Mullet is way wide of the mark dishing it out calling fans “entitled” when it was constantly stated our aims and ambitions were bigger. | |
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