| QT....teachers in training. 23:17 - Jul 14 with 2475 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
So few teachers in training ..... shocking figures if true. |  |
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| QT....teachers in training. on 13:14 - Jul 15 with 596 views | mrshallisfit |
| QT....teachers in training. on 08:24 - Jul 15 by chicoazul |
Well we’re not having babies so who needs teachers? |
I've got a feeling that chicoazul has never has much use for teachers throughout his life. |  | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 13:36 - Jul 15 with 570 views | RobTheMonk |
Madge is a teacher. Before thw twins, she'd go in for 7am and would normally work until 6-7pm and then sometimes more in the evening, plus Sunday planning.
Classes of 30+ is a regular occurance and only increasing.
I was in a non-teaching role for about 10 years and the kids noticably became more insolent over the years and this is in a good school in a nice area.
There's so much more to teaching than just teaching and the 'good holidays', which unless you've worked in a school, you won't know how much actually goes on behind the scenes and the stresses on teachers. |  | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 13:51 - Jul 15 with 551 views | STYG |
| QT....teachers in training. on 13:36 - Jul 15 by RobTheMonk |
Madge is a teacher. Before thw twins, she'd go in for 7am and would normally work until 6-7pm and then sometimes more in the evening, plus Sunday planning.
Classes of 30+ is a regular occurance and only increasing.
I was in a non-teaching role for about 10 years and the kids noticably became more insolent over the years and this is in a good school in a nice area.
There's so much more to teaching than just teaching and the 'good holidays', which unless you've worked in a school, you won't know how much actually goes on behind the scenes and the stresses on teachers. |
What's sad is that people look at the 10 weeks holiday instead of the 4 or 5 that other people get.
At 35 hours a week, that's an extra 175 hours a week off. Just over 3 hours per week, which is say 40 minutes a day over the 5 working days.
The question is who actually believes that a teacher doesn't average an extra 40 minutes work outside school per day? Their time in school is doing lessons, so where does the planning and the research and the homework marking and the tests and all that other stuff magically appear from.
It's clearly, at worst, breakeven for them with the time off against work out of contracted hours, but the reality is they do a hell of a lot more work.
But then people can't think laterally anymore. | | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:00 - Jul 15 with 547 views | ZXBlue |
| QT....teachers in training. on 13:51 - Jul 15 by STYG |
What's sad is that people look at the 10 weeks holiday instead of the 4 or 5 that other people get.
At 35 hours a week, that's an extra 175 hours a week off. Just over 3 hours per week, which is say 40 minutes a day over the 5 working days.
The question is who actually believes that a teacher doesn't average an extra 40 minutes work outside school per day? Their time in school is doing lessons, so where does the planning and the research and the homework marking and the tests and all that other stuff magically appear from.
It's clearly, at worst, breakeven for them with the time off against work out of contracted hours, but the reality is they do a hell of a lot more work.
But then people can't think laterally anymore. |
I think that's a false comparison. Most professionals work plenty beyond contracted hours. | | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:03 - Jul 15 with 531 views | STYG |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:00 - Jul 15 by ZXBlue |
I think that's a false comparison. Most professionals work plenty beyond contracted hours. |
I don't think it's anywhere near 'most' professionals. Certainly a few.
But then add in everyone else. Someone that works in McDonalds, Greggs, Boots, Snappy Snaps, drives a bus, is a lifeguard etc are not working out of contracted hours much, if at all.
The other thing that gets missed is that teachers pay is actually pretty poor considering what they do. Literally educate all of us! If the teacher was a childminder working the same hour they'd probably earn more. So good luck to them if they have a few extra weeks holiday. | | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:04 - Jul 15 with 519 views | MattinLondon |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:00 - Jul 15 by ZXBlue |
I think that's a false comparison. Most professionals work plenty beyond contracted hours. |
But most jobs that require, or expect staff to work hours beyond the traditional 9-5, tend to be ones that pay well. Far better than teaching staff. |  | | |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:47 - Jul 15 with 498 views | Chrisd |
I've had some time away from teaching by choice, but I've decided to take a new teaching job which commences in September. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy the teaching and seeing the children flourish, however as an experienced teacher you know what lies ahead and for me that can be rather demotivating thinking about it. I'm giving it one more go to see whether I really want to do it, otherwise I'm going to make a career change. I can quite understand why the profession is struggling to recruit and even those newly qualified teachers that do stay beyond their Induction Year, many move on a few years later. There's no doubt it's an extremely tough job: emotionally, physically and mentally and it's probably got a lot harder from when I first qualified all those years ago. The Government seems to not want to address the elephant in the room and continues to stick their head in the sand, which is really sad to see. There's no doubt, many good people are being lost from teaching due to its increasing demands and expectations. [Post edited 15 Jul 2022 21:12]
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| QT....teachers in training. on 18:57 - Jul 15 with 435 views | noggin |
| QT....teachers in training. on 14:00 - Jul 15 by ZXBlue |
I think that's a false comparison. Most professionals work plenty beyond contracted hours. |
Not where I live, they don't and the standard of living is better. Just saying. |  |
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| QT....teachers in training. on 19:38 - Jul 15 with 416 views | Swansea_Blue |
| QT....teachers in training. on 23:56 - Jul 14 by ZXBlue |
Not surprising.
Public sector workers know they are going to be taken advantage of and whatever deal they do on recruitment, will be dimished consistently over time. In tandem with thatm they will be asked to do ever more. Why would they bother? |
Yes, nice holidays, but I’m not sure I’d want it. Most teachers I know are pretty burnt out and cheesed off. I suppose there’s a chance to freeload - the PE teacher at my lads school does sweet FA and it’s well known if you take PE as a subject you have to do it all outside school time and get extra tuition! That seems rare though.
Most seem to work their socks off and have plenty of evening/weekend catch-up and planning to do. The ones at my daughter’s junior school are superb and nothing’s too much trouble. There’s loads of extra curricular activity they support too, from breakfast and post-school clubs and stuff in the holidays too, like all the Eistedfodds, but that’s a Welsh thing so probably doesn’t translate (it basically means an extra 2-3 weeks of work for them and us in the holidays). |  |
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| QT....teachers in training. on 20:39 - Jul 15 with 389 views | Mullet |
Look into Oak Academy and it will make sense. The pandemic has provided a good blueprint for private sector profiteering it seems.
Gove did untold damage to education and since then, bar that week in lockdown where we weren't being savaged by the media, the stock of teachers has been constantly eroded. Look how many belligerent parents get their idiot opinions and half-truths published in clickbait articles for example. |  |
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| QT....teachers in training. on 21:19 - Jul 15 with 331 views | chicoazul |
| QT....teachers in training. on 08:29 - Jul 15 by Dubtractor |
I'm not a parent, but Mrs Dub is a teacher. I don't know where that leaves me. |
Happy well off and contented I imagine! |  |
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| QT....teachers in training. on 23:03 - Jul 15 with 301 views | jaykay |
| QT....teachers in training. on 11:38 - Jul 15 by usm |
My daughter's a teacher and she definitely does not work 60-70 hours per week, 40 odd maybe but then that averages out to somewhat less than that when holiday time etc is taken into account.
Got several friends that are teachers and yes they work hard and long hours for not enough pay, but then who doesnt?
They do an incredible job and I wouldnt want to do it but I wonder what all these ex teachers are doing/going to do. There seems to be a dearth of people wanting/able to fill roles across all industries. What on earth are they all doing? |
so your daughter only works 40 odd hours as as a teacher but your friends who are teachers work long hours. how does that work out ? |  |
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