| Question for Phil.. 17:03 - Jul 16 with 3982 views | joey_itfc |
With the signing of Harness would you say that ends our interest in Celina, Phil? |  | | |  |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:47 - Jul 16 with 2842 views | PhilTWTD |
No, Celina interest is still ongoing. |  | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:55 - Jul 16 with 2786 views | Veggie |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:47 - Jul 16 by PhilTWTD |
No, Celina interest is still ongoing. |
If we got him now, it would only be because he couldn’t go to Stoke. Not sure we should be signing him if that’s the case. |  | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:11 - Jul 16 with 2697 views | ParisBlue |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:55 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
If we got him now, it would only be because he couldn’t go to Stoke. Not sure we should be signing him if that’s the case. |
I'd guess we're yet to make an offer that's acceptable to Dijon. Until we do a move to us isn't an option for him.
The move to Dijon from Swansea looks like a bad career move on Bersant's part. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 22:12]
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:20 - Jul 16 with 2622 views | PhilTWTD |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:11 - Jul 16 by ParisBlue |
I'd guess we're yet to make an offer that's acceptable to Dijon. Until we do a move to us isn't an option for him.
The move to Dijon from Swansea looks like a bad career move on Bersant's part. [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 22:12]
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Dijon aren't the issue, it's terms with the player. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:22 - Jul 16 with 2592 views | MattinLondon |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:55 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
If we got him now, it would only be because he couldn’t go to Stoke. Not sure we should be signing him if that’s the case. |
Why not? Moves break down all of the time with players then moving on to alternate clubs. |  | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:25 - Jul 16 with 2558 views | Veggie |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:22 - Jul 16 by MattinLondon |
Why not? Moves break down all of the time with players then moving on to alternate clubs. |
Because he chose to go to Stoke. He only isn’t there because of work permit issues. It’s a bit like you going out with a really fit girl, only for her to dump you so you go back to the girlfriend you initially dropped for her. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:26 - Jul 16 with 2545 views | pointofblue |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:22 - Jul 16 by MattinLondon |
Why not? Moves break down all of the time with players then moving on to alternate clubs. |
He wanted to be at Stoke rather than here - will his head be in the right place for us? | |
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:31 - Jul 16 with 2501 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:25 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
Because he chose to go to Stoke. He only isn’t there because of work permit issues. It’s a bit like you going out with a really fit girl, only for her to dump you so you go back to the girlfriend you initially dropped for her. |
Terrible analogy. I prefer - he’s a professional footballer and will end up playing football for whichever team he can reach a financial agreement with. |  |
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:32 - Jul 16 with 2490 views | jeera |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:20 - Jul 16 by PhilTWTD |
Dijon aren't the issue, it's terms with the player. |
But is it true he chose Stoke himself over Town or is it more likely it's Dijon who pushed that move because of differences in monies involved? |  |
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:35 - Jul 16 with 2428 views | MattinLondon |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:31 - Jul 16 by Swansea_Blue |
Terrible analogy. I prefer - he’s a professional footballer and will end up playing football for whichever team he can reach a financial agreement with. |
And Stoke are in the Championship as well. Players want to play at the highest level possible to them. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:36 - Jul 16 with 2410 views | Trequartista |
| Question for Phil.. on 21:55 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
If we got him now, it would only be because he couldn’t go to Stoke. Not sure we should be signing him if that’s the case. |
Why on earth not? |  |
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:37 - Jul 16 with 2404 views | MattinLondon |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:26 - Jul 16 by pointofblue |
He wanted to be at Stoke rather than here - will his head be in the right place for us? |
The Stoke move broke down, sure he’s upset about that but football moves quickly and I’m sure his head will be fixed on to whichever team offers him good wages and first team football. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:38 - Jul 16 with 2396 views | Trequartista |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:25 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
Because he chose to go to Stoke. He only isn’t there because of work permit issues. It’s a bit like you going out with a really fit girl, only for her to dump you so you go back to the girlfriend you initially dropped for her. |
So he can now not leave Dijon for anyone because he originally chose Stoke? | |
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:43 - Jul 16 with 2369 views | Wakh |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:25 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
Because he chose to go to Stoke. He only isn’t there because of work permit issues. It’s a bit like you going out with a really fit girl, only for her to dump you so you go back to the girlfriend you initially dropped for her. |
Ever swapped jobs? or girlfriends | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:47 - Jul 16 with 2351 views | PhilTWTD |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:32 - Jul 16 by jeera |
But is it true he chose Stoke himself over Town or is it more likely it's Dijon who pushed that move because of differences in monies involved? |
Stoke agreed terms, we haven't was the crux of it. I don't think Dijon are particularly bothered where he goes. As far as I'm aware the same deal had been agreed with them by both us and Stoke, and I assume the interested Turkish clubs. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:48 - Jul 16 with 2337 views | PhilTWTD |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:25 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
Because he chose to go to Stoke. He only isn’t there because of work permit issues. It’s a bit like you going out with a really fit girl, only for her to dump you so you go back to the girlfriend you initially dropped for her. |
All things being equal he'd have come here above Stoke, but they were the ones who made an acceptable offer. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:51 - Jul 16 with 2318 views | jeera |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:47 - Jul 16 by PhilTWTD |
Stoke agreed terms, we haven't was the crux of it. I don't think Dijon are particularly bothered where he goes. As far as I'm aware the same deal had been agreed with them by both us and Stoke, and I assume the interested Turkish clubs. |
Well, you couldn't blame him if he was interested in Turkey.
Their baths are a delight.
I guess if he had the opportunity to go to a club in a higher league but didn't try to take it then some of us would be questioning his sanity.
You think given our signings and the possibility of more he'd still be a useful addition to us? [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 22:52]
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| Question for Phil.. on 22:52 - Jul 16 with 2309 views | berkstractorboy |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:32 - Jul 16 by jeera |
But is it true he chose Stoke himself over Town or is it more likely it's Dijon who pushed that move because of differences in monies involved? |
Yes he chose Stoke over Town as so far they have met his terms and maybe he thinks Town never will. Repeatedly people have reported Santi wants to come back, so the analogy of saying he chose Stoke over Ipswich only really works if we both have met his terms. And then maybe he chooses Championship football over some of the L1 dross of getting kicked to bits. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 23:08 - Jul 16 with 2224 views | NthQldITFC |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:51 - Jul 16 by jeera |
Well, you couldn't blame him if he was interested in Turkey.
Their baths are a delight.
I guess if he had the opportunity to go to a club in a higher league but didn't try to take it then some of us would be questioning his sanity.
You think given our signings and the possibility of more he'd still be a useful addition to us? [Post edited 16 Jul 2022 22:52]
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I eat their Delights in my bath. |  |
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| Question for Phil.. on 23:13 - Jul 16 with 2204 views | Veggie |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:35 - Jul 16 by MattinLondon |
And Stoke are in the Championship as well. Players want to play at the highest level possible to them. |
Again not true. Players have chosen to come here over Championship clubs. | | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 23:16 - Jul 16 with 2188 views | pointofblue |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:52 - Jul 16 by berkstractorboy |
Yes he chose Stoke over Town as so far they have met his terms and maybe he thinks Town never will. Repeatedly people have reported Santi wants to come back, so the analogy of saying he chose Stoke over Ipswich only really works if we both have met his terms. And then maybe he chooses Championship football over some of the L1 dross of getting kicked to bits. |
More like money. We have to still work within a tighter budget than Stoke do. It's easier to Stoke to meet his request.
The thing is, if he wants to return to England, he only has one option on the table now. Do we try and take advantage of that and, if so, will he decide to go to one of the Turkish sides instead? | |
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| Question for Phil.. on 06:38 - Jul 17 with 1814 views | ITFCBlues |
| Question for Phil.. on 23:13 - Jul 16 by Veggie |
Again not true. Players have chosen to come here over Championship clubs. |
On your theory, we probably shouldn't sign another player. Harness was linked with Championship bids last week, why did we sign him? |  |
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| Question for Phil.. on 06:59 - Jul 17 with 1768 views | BarcaBlue |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:26 - Jul 16 by pointofblue |
He wanted to be at Stoke rather than here - will his head be in the right place for us? |
Do you honestly believe that Celina, if he does come here, will be pining for Stoke and his performances will suffer as a result?
He has a Norwegian passport, more likely to be pining for the bloody fjords. |  | | |
| Question for Phil.. on 08:11 - Jul 17 with 1597 views | xrayspecs |
| Question for Phil.. on 22:48 - Jul 16 by PhilTWTD |
All things being equal he'd have come here above Stoke, but they were the ones who made an acceptable offer. |
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Would this be a loan or permanent deal? If a loan, then would Dijon and Town be negotiating who covers what percentage of his contract? If term are being agreed with CB, then would this not be a permanent or loan to permanent deal? | | | |
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