| Definitely against Hirst now 12:45 - Aug 16 with 4079 views | pointofblue |
We’re already giving game time to a Premier League youngster who we’ll send back on the summer; if we can’t sign Hirst permanently I hope we move on to other, permanent, targets. It’s nice only having one loanee in the squad. |  |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:49 - Aug 16 with 2970 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
The other question, is if he will score to 20+ goals required in this season. I was already on the fence on that, but figured he was a player we could develop and then sell at a profit.
Without the benefit of that development of our player, I'd rather move on too. |  |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:51 - Aug 16 with 2939 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:49 - Aug 16 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The other question, is if he will score to 20+ goals required in this season. I was already on the fence on that, but figured he was a player we could develop and then sell at a profit.
Without the benefit of that development of our player, I'd rather move on too. |
BUT .... if he were still the man (if he was at all) to score 20+ this season to see us promoted then what ? |  |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:52 - Aug 16 with 2919 views | cressi |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:49 - Aug 16 by Cheltenham_Blue |
The other question, is if he will score to 20+ goals required in this season. I was already on the fence on that, but figured he was a player we could develop and then sell at a profit.
Without the benefit of that development of our player, I'd rather move on too. |
I was never sure based on half a good season in career, yea I know Harry Kane had that type of start
Much prefer permanent
Who will be with us next Yr and improve for been here | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:53 - Aug 16 with 2889 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:51 - Aug 16 by Metal_Hacker |
BUT .... if he were still the man (if he was at all) to score 20+ this season to see us promoted then what ? |
Then we send him back to Leicester and get Ronaldo on a free from Man United.
(Just a guess) | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:53 - Aug 16 with 2886 views | pointofblue |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:51 - Aug 16 by Metal_Hacker |
BUT .... if he were still the man (if he was at all) to score 20+ this season to see us promoted then what ? |
Would be quite a gamble considering his scoring record is similar to Bonne’s who, at best, we haven’t treated as a primary target. | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:54 - Aug 16 with 2877 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
It is nice, but i don't think one more loan would be an issue especially if we really want him. I suppose if he comes on loan has a great season and we get promoted it would possibly make it easier for the deal to become permanent at one point ? |  |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:54 - Aug 16 with 2850 views | pointofblue |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:54 - Aug 16 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
It is nice, but i don't think one more loan would be an issue especially if we really want him. I suppose if he comes on loan has a great season and we get promoted it would possibly make it easier for the deal to become permanent at one point ? |
If we have a great season, Leicester will sell him to the highest bidder who may well not be us. | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:54 - Aug 16 with 2841 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:53 - Aug 16 by pointofblue |
Would be quite a gamble considering his scoring record is similar to Bonne’s who, at best, we haven’t treated as a primary target. |
Yeah perhaps that right but who would fit the "system" the best ? | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:57 - Aug 16 with 2793 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:54 - Aug 16 by pointofblue |
If we have a great season, Leicester will sell him to the highest bidder who may well not be us. |
Well that's the other side of the coin. Although we could bid pretty high im sure. | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 12:57 - Aug 16 with 2780 views | berkstractorboy |
Doesn't a loan to a Champ club rule us out?
He will look at us and wonder if he will be a regular and must equally look at Pompey and wonder with all the strikers they now have.
We don't need another saga like Crooks last season ... | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 with 2745 views | PhilTWTD |
As I understand it we still want him permanently. If we can do a deal with them then that may supercede their intention to sign him to a longer-term contract. |  | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 with 2709 views | pointofblue |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 by PhilTWTD |
As I understand it we still want him permanently. If we can do a deal with them then that may supercede their intention to sign him to a longer-term contract. |
That makes sense. Would like our offer to be permanent or walk away. | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:04 - Aug 16 with 2705 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 by PhilTWTD |
As I understand it we still want him permanently. If we can do a deal with them then that may supercede their intention to sign him to a longer-term contract. |
So could this be LCFC trying to get a better deal for both parties (him and them) by offering him "security" etc ? | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:24 - Aug 16 with 2474 views | ibbleobble |
It’s becoming a really boring protracted saga for a player who commands no hype or excitement. Is anyone really that interested in this signing which, by all accounts, is becoming increasingly expensive. Chasing business like this feels very at odds with how signings over the last 12 - 14 months have been bar Celina. We even gave up on Bradley when he signed a new contract so why chase Hirst? | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:37 - Aug 16 with 2342 views | markchips |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:24 - Aug 16 by ibbleobble |
It’s becoming a really boring protracted saga for a player who commands no hype or excitement. Is anyone really that interested in this signing which, by all accounts, is becoming increasingly expensive. Chasing business like this feels very at odds with how signings over the last 12 - 14 months have been bar Celina. We even gave up on Bradley when he signed a new contract so why chase Hirst? |
I suspect he ticks all the boxes for both McKenna from the playing side fitting into a preferred system and Ashton on a commercial level.
Ultimately I expect it will go down to the wire (hopefully not deadline day) as it will be all about the structure of the deal. We could take him on loan at the death and then negotiate a fee under more relaxed circumstances. | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:37 - Aug 16 with 2342 views | BlueBadger |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:24 - Aug 16 by ibbleobble |
It’s becoming a really boring protracted saga for a player who commands no hype or excitement. Is anyone really that interested in this signing which, by all accounts, is becoming increasingly expensive. Chasing business like this feels very at odds with how signings over the last 12 - 14 months have been bar Celina. We even gave up on Bradley when he signed a new contract so why chase Hirst? |
Presumably because the manager REALLY thinks he will benefit the club.
I'll take McKenna's judgement over any amount of hype any day. |  |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:46 - Aug 16 with 2242 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:24 - Aug 16 by ibbleobble |
It’s becoming a really boring protracted saga for a player who commands no hype or excitement. Is anyone really that interested in this signing which, by all accounts, is becoming increasingly expensive. Chasing business like this feels very at odds with how signings over the last 12 - 14 months have been bar Celina. We even gave up on Bradley when he signed a new contract so why chase Hirst? |
Isn’t it good that we have some targeted recruitment now? McKenna decides who is likely to fit into the team, both as a character and a player.
Rather than Cooks scattergun approach to transfers - sign 20 random players and try and build a team out of it. | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:58 - Aug 16 with 2135 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 by PhilTWTD |
As I understand it we still want him permanently. If we can do a deal with them then that may supercede their intention to sign him to a longer-term contract. |
I can't believe at 23 he is likely to break through at Leicester, so I assume it will be down to his ambition and wanting to play every week with a permanent club, not a continual loanee. |  | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:19 - Aug 16 with 2026 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:46 - Aug 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Isn’t it good that we have some targeted recruitment now? McKenna decides who is likely to fit into the team, both as a character and a player.
Rather than Cooks scattergun approach to transfers - sign 20 random players and try and build a team out of it. |
It's just silly to suggest Cook signed 20 random players. He signed players we needed, very good players some of them who are still amongst our best now. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:21 - Aug 16 with 2008 views | BlueBadger |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:19 - Aug 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's just silly to suggest Cook signed 20 random players. He signed players we needed, very good players some of them who are still amongst our best now. |
...that he didn't really know what to do with. | |
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:27 - Aug 16 with 1939 views | ibbleobble |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:46 - Aug 16 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Isn’t it good that we have some targeted recruitment now? McKenna decides who is likely to fit into the team, both as a character and a player.
Rather than Cooks scattergun approach to transfers - sign 20 random players and try and build a team out of it. |
Targeted recruitment means you move on to the next in the list rather than bow to the whims of others financial demands. North of 1.5 million is a silly figure for an unproven player at league one level especially in the wake of the Davis signing. | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:27 - Aug 16 with 1937 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:19 - Aug 16 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's just silly to suggest Cook signed 20 random players. He signed players we needed, very good players some of them who are still amongst our best now. |
But he didn’t buy specific players to fit his system, he brought in okayers and tried to fit them INTO his system.
Which was very evident in yet performances/results. | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:30 - Aug 16 with 1888 views | ibbleobble |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:37 - Aug 16 by BlueBadger |
Presumably because the manager REALLY thinks he will benefit the club.
I'll take McKenna's judgement over any amount of hype any day. |
There’s still question marks over McKenna’s ability in the transfer market though. Last season’s additions were mediocre if not below average and it’s a little too early to tell on this season’s influx. | | | |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:39 - Aug 16 with 1821 views | BlueBadger |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:27 - Aug 16 by ibbleobble |
Targeted recruitment means you move on to the next in the list rather than bow to the whims of others financial demands. North of 1.5 million is a silly figure for an unproven player at league one level especially in the wake of the Davis signing. |
He scored 15 in 46 games for Portsmouth last season. [Post edited 16 Aug 2022 14:40]
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| Definitely against Hirst now on 14:44 - Aug 16 with 1775 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Definitely against Hirst now on 13:03 - Aug 16 by pointofblue |
That makes sense. Would like our offer to be permanent or walk away. |
I would happily take a loan with an option to buy based on promotion, appearances or something along those lines. It would actually lower our risk as, were he not to be all that, we would send him back at the of the season. If it was based on promotion, we could probably afford a higher fee than an outright purchase now too. |  |
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