| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? 11:05 - Sep 13 with 3578 views | MattinLondon |
What with the accession of a new King, do you think it’s time for a new approach from royality? Or would you like it to stay exactly how it is?
Ideally I’d like to see the Royal Family retired and replaced by a republic but this isn’t going to happen anytime soon. So ideally, I’d like to see the Royal Family streamlined with them paying full tax on all of their income and assets. I don’t mind Charles highlighting issues such as the environment but this could alienate some as well as irritating government.
Just wondered what other peoples views were on this. |  | | |  |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:07 - Sep 13 with 2296 views | Cotty |
A retired one please. |  | | |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:14 - Sep 13 with 2272 views | Darth_Koont |
Pretty much the same as you.
But for our monarchy to slip into the background much more like the other European monarchies, it needs to be untangled from the “constitutional” arrangement much more.
So probably needs to be seen as part/side effect of wider political and constitutional reform. Which to be fair is decades, perhaps even a century, overdue. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:16 - Sep 13 with 2265 views | usm |
A supported and respected one |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:19 - Sep 13 with 2246 views | blueasfook |
I'd like to see it drastically trimmed down - direct line to the throne only. So that would be Charles and Camilla and William, Kate and children and that's it.
The rest of the hangers on should not be recognised as "official royals" and therefore not recieve any royal priveleges, titles, money etc. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:19 - Sep 13 with 2241 views | geg1992 |
Definitely needs to change. Very much outdated and I'd like to see them retired also. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:32 - Sep 13 with 2198 views | baxterbasics |
I expect more of the same, and that's fine with me.
I'm not a Royals-obsessive but I would categorise myself as moderately supportive of our constitutional monarchy.
You wouldn't design a country from scratch this way of course, on paper it makes no sense, but I do see value in upholding a tradition going back so many centuries, I like the anachronistic nature of it and the uniqueness it gives the UK in the modern world. It is benign and actually pretty good value for money - I wouldn't be surprised if say an elected president turns out to be just as expensive to maintain. Plus, looking at the quality of some of our elected representatives and government institutions, I fear whatever we replace them with would prove only to be disappointing.
On the democratic argument, seems to me that the monarchy can at least claim legitimacy based on 'tacit consent' as it is currently supported by a clear majority of the population (over 60% I saw in recent polling). The figure gets even higher when you focus on people in the armed forces, police and elected officials. Yet there is a reasonable probability that in the coming years and decades, as todays youth become tomorrows voters, memories of the beloved Liz begin to fade, and particularly if/when future royal missteps occur, we will see the balance of opinion shift the other way. When a majority become actively critical, and starts voting in more politicians who are opposed, then the monarchy's days will be numbered, and it will almost certainly be a bloodless transition. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if William is the last monarch in the current setup. But that day will be sad for me. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:47 - Sep 13 with 2161 views | Darth_Koont |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:50 - Sep 13 with 2146 views | Illinoisblue |
With this new formation we need to see a lot more from Prince Edward. He’s got the experience but he’s never really shown his quality on the big stage. With Charles taking on more work in this new player/manager role, you’d want to see Anne step up and be more of a captain. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:52 - Sep 13 with 2131 views | chicoazul |
I have no idea why so many of you want a President. Haven’t you learned anything at all since 2010? |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:00 - Sep 13 with 2109 views | bluelagos |
+1 for a republic.
Not going to happen in my lifetime. Suspect the commonwealth countries will slowly move away from the Monarchy.
One very real possibility is an Independent Scotland would opt to be a republic, possibly same with a United Ireland.
But as we have seen this week, the mere discussion/suggestion upsets many who are deeply ingrained in their love of the Royal family. It still isn't a mainstream discussion point for politicians who will ultimately make the call.
Still not my King :-) |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:03 - Sep 13 with 2091 views | MattinLondon |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 11:52 - Sep 13 by chicoazul |
I have no idea why so many of you want a President. Haven’t you learned anything at all since 2010? |
You use one example to highlight the negatives of the Presidential system, another poster posts an example of what’s wrong with the monarchy blah blah blah. | | | |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:05 - Sep 13 with 2085 views | J2BLUE |
A massively scaled back one. Direct line only. No titles or funding for the extras. Reduced funding for those that remain.
Start untangling the connection to parliament and some of the ridiculous pomposity that has nothing but negative influence.
Also, if Charles goes on for 20 years and is in good health towards the end of his life I think we should be starting to have a serious discussion about becoming a republic. I suspect we will see William become king but I am not sure George ever will. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:07 - Sep 13 with 2067 views | bluelagos |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:03 - Sep 13 by MattinLondon |
You use one example to highlight the negatives of the Presidential system, another poster posts an example of what’s wrong with the monarchy blah blah blah. |
Is a quite bizarre argument isn't it.
There are over a 170 countries - all with slightly different ways of governing, but X country is sh1t therefore we should keep the monarchy...
I think many people struggle with change and struggle with uncertainty. Struggle a lot. It was one of the most disorientating parts of lockdown 1 - not knowing how things would play out.
And the exact same dislike of uncertainty is why many cling to the Royal family. Having the same, stable monarch of 70 years has provided certainty in a fast changing world. | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:08 - Sep 13 with 2061 views | baxterbasics |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:00 - Sep 13 by bluelagos |
+1 for a republic.
Not going to happen in my lifetime. Suspect the commonwealth countries will slowly move away from the Monarchy.
One very real possibility is an Independent Scotland would opt to be a republic, possibly same with a United Ireland.
But as we have seen this week, the mere discussion/suggestion upsets many who are deeply ingrained in their love of the Royal family. It still isn't a mainstream discussion point for politicians who will ultimately make the call.
Still not my King :-) |
I believe that even the SNPs position is that an independent Scotland would retain the monarch as head of state. | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:09 - Sep 13 with 2052 views | BlueBadger |
A nonce-free one. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:13 - Sep 13 with 2040 views | BlueBadger |
A privatised one. This state-run monopoly is clearly over-staffed, lazy, inefficient and employing the most inappropriate people. | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:15 - Sep 13 with 2033 views | bluelagos |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:08 - Sep 13 by baxterbasics |
I believe that even the SNPs position is that an independent Scotland would retain the monarch as head of state. |
It is. But a majority of SNP voters support a republic so like I say, I think it is a real possibility (if not probability)
Sturgeon has little to gain by stating she desires a republic, so why would she? A few years after Independence (If it comes) that position could easily change. | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:36 - Sep 13 with 1977 views | bluelagos |
One irony is that the policeman who yesterday challenged the guy holding an empty piece of paper, by so doing he has enabled the only republican voice to be heard on the MSM this week.
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 13:08 - Sep 13 with 1910 views | SaigonTractor |
My views on what should happen would probably get me arrested if this week has been anything to go by. |  | | |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 13:11 - Sep 13 with 1902 views | lurcher |
How about ending it all together and becoming a republic. |  | | |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 13:17 - Sep 13 with 1889 views | baxterbasics |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:15 - Sep 13 by bluelagos |
It is. But a majority of SNP voters support a republic so like I say, I think it is a real possibility (if not probability)
Sturgeon has little to gain by stating she desires a republic, so why would she? A few years after Independence (If it comes) that position could easily change. |
Yes this may well be true - they are focusing on the battle they could win, the rest can wait. | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 14:28 - Sep 13 with 1789 views | chicoazul |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:07 - Sep 13 by bluelagos |
Is a quite bizarre argument isn't it.
There are over a 170 countries - all with slightly different ways of governing, but X country is sh1t therefore we should keep the monarchy...
I think many people struggle with change and struggle with uncertainty. Struggle a lot. It was one of the most disorientating parts of lockdown 1 - not knowing how things would play out.
And the exact same dislike of uncertainty is why many cling to the Royal family. Having the same, stable monarch of 70 years has provided certainty in a fast changing world. |
I am talking specifically about our country. TWTD is always telling me how thick the electorate are, can you believe they voted for Brexit, can you believe they voted for 12 years of Tories ad nauseum. And now TWTD wants those same people to vote for a President gifted enormous power.
You won’t end up with Oliver Cromwell Jeremy Corbyn or Leon Trotsky; it’d be Nigel Farage or David Cameron. This is why I say I don’t understand why you don’t learn anything from history (not you personally you understand). | |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 14:54 - Sep 13 with 1750 views | Garv |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 12:36 - Sep 13 by bluelagos |
One irony is that the policeman who yesterday challenged the guy holding an empty piece of paper, by so doing he has enabled the only republican voice to be heard on the MSM this week.
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"I wont' be told what to do"
It's always the same. Unfortunately people will now protest against anything they can because it's the trendy thing to do. |  |
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 15:10 - Sep 13 with 1675 views | bluelagos |
| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 14:54 - Sep 13 by Garv |
"I wont' be told what to do"
It's always the same. Unfortunately people will now protest against anything they can because it's the trendy thing to do. |
Why is it "unfortunate" that people should choose to protest. You seem to think protest is something you don't like or wish to see?
I would argue protest is a sign of a healthy democracy and that protest is far better than apathy. It is of course sometimes disruptive, but I think that's a minor price to pay for people being heard.
Protest played a huge role in getting women the vote, what got black people equality in America, what got South Africa free from apartheid. It is even the reason why you have so many footpaths to walk in the UK :-) [Post edited 13 Sep 2022 15:13]
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| What kind of King and royal family would you now like to see? on 15:19 - Sep 13 with 764 views | leitrimblue |
The earth's rightful ruler, King of all kings,The conquering lion of the Tribe of Judea? |  | | |
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