| The burning of the hijab 07:53 - Sep 21 with 4306 views | GlasgowBlue |
Incredible scenes coming from Iran as women take to the streets to burn their hijab after the murder of Mahsa Amini by the morality police.
Edit. Graphic content in the next two clips.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/mahsa-aminis-brutal-death-may-be-m
Sadly we know from the Green movement in 2009 that the Iranian state will brutally crush any protests. These really are brave people. [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 7:55]
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:29 - Sep 21 with 855 views | MattinLondon |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:19 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
On the naughty step you go banksy. You can stay there until your tantrum ends. |
Roughly translated. ‘I’m not going to admit any mistakes because I’m too insecure to admit to do that’. |  | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:32 - Sep 21 with 856 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:29 - Sep 21 by MattinLondon |
Roughly translated. ‘I’m not going to admit any mistakes because I’m too insecure to admit to do that’. |
You're another one who seems to follow my posts around like a love sick teenager. You can join him on the naughty step. | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:36 - Sep 21 with 849 views | bluelagos |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:24 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I could have worded that better. We should respect the right for people to worship a religion so long as it doesn't do us any harm.
In the last twenty years we have seen several atrocities carried out in the name of Islam. That doesn't mean Islam isn't a peaceful religion and I respect the right of Muslims to practice their beliefs. Which several million people do around the world without causing any harm.
Likewise, many atrocities have been carried out in the name of Christianity. But I'm pretty certain that the Reverend Richard Coles isn't advocating another Crusade. His biggest crime on humanity is murdering Harold Melvin and The Bluenotes "Don't Leave Me This Way". [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 11:26]
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"We should respect the right for people to worship a religion so long as it doesn't do us any harm. "
Still not quite sure we are on the same page here. Surely it should be so long as it doesn't do others any harm?
I think you highlight for sure one good Christian (One of millions am sure) but that doesn't mean Christianity is overall a force for good. It may be, but for that you'd have to convince me the good outweighs the harm. And I think the downside is quite a long list once we consider the role of religion in various wars, in advocating condoms (Aids in Africa) and in numerous child abuse scandals. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:41 - Sep 21 with 839 views | XYZ |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:24 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
I could have worded that better. We should respect the right for people to worship a religion so long as it doesn't do us any harm.
In the last twenty years we have seen several atrocities carried out in the name of Islam. That doesn't mean Islam isn't a peaceful religion and I respect the right of Muslims to practice their beliefs. Which several million people do around the world without causing any harm.
Likewise, many atrocities have been carried out in the name of Christianity. But I'm pretty certain that the Reverend Richard Coles isn't advocating another Crusade. His biggest crime on humanity is murdering Harold Melvin and The Bluenotes "Don't Leave Me This Way". [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 11:26]
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So, do you believe in God/ a god GB? |  | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:42 - Sep 21 with 836 views | bluelagos |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:36 - Sep 21 by bluelagos |
"We should respect the right for people to worship a religion so long as it doesn't do us any harm. "
Still not quite sure we are on the same page here. Surely it should be so long as it doesn't do others any harm?
I think you highlight for sure one good Christian (One of millions am sure) but that doesn't mean Christianity is overall a force for good. It may be, but for that you'd have to convince me the good outweighs the harm. And I think the downside is quite a long list once we consider the role of religion in various wars, in advocating condoms (Aids in Africa) and in numerous child abuse scandals. |
Edit: I just watched the actual vids you linked - (commented before having only seen the news on C4 last night)
Fck me that's something - far more than just burning Hijabs - attacking the religious police (thugs) who police it. And men supporting the protest too... | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:44 - Sep 21 with 817 views | MattinLondon |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:32 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
You're another one who seems to follow my posts around like a love sick teenager. You can join him on the naughty step. |
Are snacks provided on the naughty step? Funny how people reply on a public forum.
GSTK - other meaningless slogans are available | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:45 - Sep 21 with 826 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:41 - Sep 21 by XYZ |
So, do you believe in God/ a god GB? |
No. I wish I did. Because I know a lot of people from different faiths who do. And they all have an inner strength and ability to forgive and see the best in people.
That's not to say that other people I know who aren't religious don't share those traits. But those with faith seem to have that certain something to fall back on.
But no. There is no logic to it. But each to their own. | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:56 - Sep 21 with 816 views | Ryorry |
Absolute respect to them.
Maybe another Arab Spring/Berlin Wall? Regimes can't imprison millions of their people, & I imagine some of the male members of the population have guns of their own, if they choose to join the protests & are threatened with extreme violence by the Iranian authorities. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 11:57 - Sep 21 with 811 views | blueasfook |
| The burning of the hijab on 10:03 - Sep 21 by MattinLondon |
Many have said that religion isn’t to blame but man’s interpretation of it. Unfortunately, the church itself (be it Catholic or Anglican etc etc) have all been too willing to give its approval to war in order to extend its influence.
We often view Iran and places like that as backward for allowing religious leaders too much power but I don’t think we’re in a position to judge. The monarch is head of both church and state, church leaders seat in the House of Lords. All this is ridiculous. Remove the church from the monarchy and remove its representatives from the second chamber.
In terms of Iran, that protest is extremely brave. I think Iran has a very large population under 35 with many of them a lot more secular than previous generations. It may well lead to more liberalisation of that country. |
I dont think religion has much influence on politics in the UK these days. In Ireland however, the catholic church still has a big say in things. It was only a few years ago they made abortions legal. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:05 - Sep 21 with 802 views | XYZ |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:45 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
No. I wish I did. Because I know a lot of people from different faiths who do. And they all have an inner strength and ability to forgive and see the best in people.
That's not to say that other people I know who aren't religious don't share those traits. But those with faith seem to have that certain something to fall back on.
But no. There is no logic to it. But each to their own. |
Interesting. I'm sure there's plenty who align with a religion who don't really "believe" in the god(s). I think the rituals etc and community might be useful in coping with life's challenges sometimes - especially around deaths.
Anyway, let's hope something positive happens in Iran. The country has an incredible history and ancient culture. | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:07 - Sep 21 with 799 views | bluelagos |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:56 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Absolute respect to them.
Maybe another Arab Spring/Berlin Wall? Regimes can't imprison millions of their people, & I imagine some of the male members of the population have guns of their own, if they choose to join the protests & are threatened with extreme violence by the Iranian authorities. |
Just looked at a few of the Twitter vids (much like the ones Glassers linked)
Is proper going off over there. #IranProtests2022 seems to be the hashtag of choice. | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:10 - Sep 21 with 772 views | Darth_Koont |
| The burning of the hijab on 10:30 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Lose the obsession banksy. You are getting very needy again. A sign that you need to chill out off board a little more mate.
Well done for trying to hijack the thread though. Not one post expressing solidarity with those brave people taking a stand. I guess you are only on the side of oppressed Muslims when it suits you. [Post edited 21 Sep 2022 10:46]
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Says the long-time Tory party fanboy and newly born-again anti-racist.
Spare us. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:11 - Sep 21 with 771 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:19 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
On the naughty step you go banksy. You can stay there until your tantrum ends. |
If it's the price I have to pay for trying to make you a better human being then so be it. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:15 - Sep 21 with 762 views | MattinLondon |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:57 - Sep 21 by blueasfook |
I dont think religion has much influence on politics in the UK these days. In Ireland however, the catholic church still has a big say in things. It was only a few years ago they made abortions legal. |
True, but they (the CoE) still holds influence in the UK. A number of bishops and clerics seat in the House of Lords - disproportionate to how many people actually go to church. I know there are historical reasons for this but I don’t think in the modern age this should continue. | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:18 - Sep 21 with 770 views | blueasfook |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:56 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Absolute respect to them.
Maybe another Arab Spring/Berlin Wall? Regimes can't imprison millions of their people, & I imagine some of the male members of the population have guns of their own, if they choose to join the protests & are threatened with extreme violence by the Iranian authorities. |
What did the Arab spring achieve exactly? 10 years of war in Syria and still Bassad remains in charge, ongoing humanitarian crisis in Libya, an estimated 61,000 deaths, no real regime change or shift toward democracy. | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:27 - Sep 21 with 753 views | Radlett_blue |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:18 - Sep 21 by blueasfook |
What did the Arab spring achieve exactly? 10 years of war in Syria and still Bassad remains in charge, ongoing humanitarian crisis in Libya, an estimated 61,000 deaths, no real regime change or shift toward democracy. |
The big problem was always how to shift from a dictatorship to democracy in countries with no history of democracy or political institutions. Religious parties like the Islamic Brotherhood filled the vacuum, with predictable results. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:32 - Sep 21 with 747 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:07 - Sep 21 by bluelagos |
Just looked at a few of the Twitter vids (much like the ones Glassers linked)
Is proper going off over there. #IranProtests2022 seems to be the hashtag of choice. |
Iran pre Islamic revolution.
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:38 - Sep 21 with 721 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| The burning of the hijab on 11:56 - Sep 21 by Ryorry |
Absolute respect to them.
Maybe another Arab Spring/Berlin Wall? Regimes can't imprison millions of their people, & I imagine some of the male members of the population have guns of their own, if they choose to join the protests & are threatened with extreme violence by the Iranian authorities. |
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/09/21/689590/West-should-keep-silent-on-human
The violence is the West’s fault and not the Iranian government didn’t you know? | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:41 - Sep 21 with 709 views | blueasfook |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:27 - Sep 21 by Radlett_blue |
The big problem was always how to shift from a dictatorship to democracy in countries with no history of democracy or political institutions. Religious parties like the Islamic Brotherhood filled the vacuum, with predictable results. |
Not to mention creating a breeding ground for ISIS. | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 12:50 - Sep 21 with 698 views | itfcjoe |
Just so backwards for a society to allow women to be treated so badly and as absolute 2nd class (at best) citizens |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 14:24 - Sep 21 with 712 views | Hogger |
| The burning of the hijab on 10:28 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Of course it's man's ( and woman's) interpretation of religion. Interpretation can manifest itself in extremes, such as violence and terrorism. The majority of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Christians and followers of other religions manage to interpret their beliefs in a peaceful and respectful way. Many charities have evolved from religious people wanting to do good deeds in keeping with their beliefs.
We have two posters on this board who have spoken of being practicing Christians. I believe Nthsuffolkblue recently said that his Christian beliefs have lead to him becoming more socially conscious.
Religion is not the issue. It is how people use that religion. |
Very well said... | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 18:42 - Sep 21 with 607 views | HARRY10 |
| The burning of the hijab on 10:28 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Of course it's man's ( and woman's) interpretation of religion. Interpretation can manifest itself in extremes, such as violence and terrorism. The majority of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Christians and followers of other religions manage to interpret their beliefs in a peaceful and respectful way. Many charities have evolved from religious people wanting to do good deeds in keeping with their beliefs.
We have two posters on this board who have spoken of being practicing Christians. I believe Nthsuffolkblue recently said that his Christian beliefs have lead to him becoming more socially conscious.
Religion is not the issue. It is how people use that religion. |
Guns are not the problem, it is how people use them'
As to respect, then absolutely not. Not one bit. I can never respect a hypocrite.
As to the guff about it being more violent times, then might I ask who was the chief protagonist, the one who laid waste to whole cities, not sparing a single creature ? Who had slaughtered the enemies of his tribe - the chosen ones. Love thy brother, turn the other cheek......yeh, right
Much as with 'western' women who chose to put on this fancy dress and claim it is a symbol of their freedom of expression. Fine if you are a middle income westerner in some safe suburb. Perhaps they should ask the women of Iran if it is an 'expression of their freedom'.
This will not be the end of male tyranny in Iran, but it certainly is the beginning of change. | | | |
| The burning of the hijab on 20:00 - Sep 21 with 556 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The burning of the hijab on 18:42 - Sep 21 by HARRY10 |
Guns are not the problem, it is how people use them'
As to respect, then absolutely not. Not one bit. I can never respect a hypocrite.
As to the guff about it being more violent times, then might I ask who was the chief protagonist, the one who laid waste to whole cities, not sparing a single creature ? Who had slaughtered the enemies of his tribe - the chosen ones. Love thy brother, turn the other cheek......yeh, right
Much as with 'western' women who chose to put on this fancy dress and claim it is a symbol of their freedom of expression. Fine if you are a middle income westerner in some safe suburb. Perhaps they should ask the women of Iran if it is an 'expression of their freedom'.
This will not be the end of male tyranny in Iran, but it certainly is the beginning of change. |
What on earth are you blabbering about Harry? | |
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| The burning of the hijab on 20:17 - Sep 21 with 530 views | Steve_M |
| The burning of the hijab on 12:07 - Sep 21 by bluelagos |
Just looked at a few of the Twitter vids (much like the ones Glassers linked)
Is proper going off over there. #IranProtests2022 seems to be the hashtag of choice. |
Just look at this sh1t:
Protests across Russia too. Brave people. |  |
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| The burning of the hijab on 20:20 - Sep 21 with 525 views | StokieBlue |
| The burning of the hijab on 20:17 - Sep 21 by Steve_M |
Just look at this sh1t:
Protests across Russia too. Brave people. |
Really brave stuff from the protestors, lets hope it is the road to lasting change in Iran.
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