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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter 08:09 - Nov 18 with 10748 viewsGuthrum

faster than Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng could do with the British economy.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/17/elon-musk-twitter-closes-offi

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:57 - Nov 18 with 2045 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:56 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Nope, you didn't read my reply on that did you? I was saying it's what THEY think, not what I think.

I've been a huge supporter of you on here, one of the last few standing, but you're coming across as the cock everyone else was saying you are.


I value facts Dollers.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:00 - Nov 18 with 2046 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:38 - Nov 18 by SpruceMoose

Ok, cool. You're right. Anyone questioning his intelligence citing specific examples of the many moronic things he's done is just jealous. We can end this now.


Fine. I really don't give a flying one and am outta here. You lot carry on calling the richest man in the world not very smart (without reading anything about his back story, I suspect for many). I'm sure while he's sitting on one of his yachts he'll be worrying that unknown posters on TWTD don't think he's smart.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:01 - Nov 18 with 2042 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:56 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Which is a smart skill in itself...


So is being able to balance a spoon on one’s nose or kick a ball around well.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:02 - Nov 18 with 2037 viewsDanTheMan

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:00 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Fine. I really don't give a flying one and am outta here. You lot carry on calling the richest man in the world not very smart (without reading anything about his back story, I suspect for many). I'm sure while he's sitting on one of his yachts he'll be worrying that unknown posters on TWTD don't think he's smart.


Criticism of billionaires doesn't always imply jealousy you know.

You certainly seem like you do care.

I certainly care about the many people who have lost their jobs which is directly his fault.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:03 - Nov 18 with 2026 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:57 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

I value facts Dollers.


Well the fact is I was saying it's what James Watt thinks is punk, not what Dollers thinks is punk, so it really doesn't seem like you do value facts.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:05 - Nov 18 with 2017 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:02 - Nov 18 by DanTheMan

Criticism of billionaires doesn't always imply jealousy you know.

You certainly seem like you do care.

I certainly care about the many people who have lost their jobs which is directly his fault.


I'm not saying it always does. And criticism of his practices over twitter is entirely justified.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:06 - Nov 18 with 2016 viewsSpruceMoose

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:02 - Nov 18 by DanTheMan

Criticism of billionaires doesn't always imply jealousy you know.

You certainly seem like you do care.

I certainly care about the many people who have lost their jobs which is directly his fault.


I would have thought as a self-described Corbynista Dolly would have found these mass layoffs and hostile working conditions fairly abhorrent. But hey-ho.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:07 - Nov 18 with 2008 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:03 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Well the fact is I was saying it's what James Watt thinks is punk, not what Dollers thinks is punk, so it really doesn't seem like you do value facts.


Ahh so because your take was in 3rd person it’s a disconnect?

Come on.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:09 - Nov 18 with 2003 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:06 - Nov 18 by SpruceMoose

I would have thought as a self-described Corbynista Dolly would have found these mass layoffs and hostile working conditions fairly abhorrent. But hey-ho.


That’s very much my take too.

I’m not angry, just disappointed.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:15 - Nov 18 with 1992 viewsthe_toff

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:34 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

Perhaps you should go tell Google this. They have around 20k more engineers they’re wasting money on.

I bet the large software company you work for is a fraction of the size of Twitter in terms of traffic or you are in a position where you don’t get a look in at the back end. I’d trust Dan’s opinion on this more.


You’re comparing apples & pears. Google is a much larger business that’s worth 30 times the price Musk paid for Twitter.

Google’s revenue per head is approximately $2m a year vs $160k for Twitter, so you could argue that metric implies Twitter has a heavy headcount relative to the revenue.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:19 - Nov 18 with 1981 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:15 - Nov 18 by the_toff

You’re comparing apples & pears. Google is a much larger business that’s worth 30 times the price Musk paid for Twitter.

Google’s revenue per head is approximately $2m a year vs $160k for Twitter, so you could argue that metric implies Twitter has a heavy headcount relative to the revenue.


Yeah but I’m not. I’m making a clear point about scale of users and global reach working in real time with a million things that can break. Meta for example has around 30k estimated engineers if LI is anything to go by.

As someone else also pointed out too, 7.5k employees will also be ad folk, ad sellers, designers, admin, mods, etc.

If anyone thinks you build something as large as Twitter and manage it with a small engineering team then maybe one shouldn’t be waving their credentials about working at a software firm.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:37 - Nov 18 with 1939 viewsthe_toff

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:19 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

Yeah but I’m not. I’m making a clear point about scale of users and global reach working in real time with a million things that can break. Meta for example has around 30k estimated engineers if LI is anything to go by.

As someone else also pointed out too, 7.5k employees will also be ad folk, ad sellers, designers, admin, mods, etc.

If anyone thinks you build something as large as Twitter and manage it with a small engineering team then maybe one shouldn’t be waving their credentials about working at a software firm.
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Nobody has suggested twitter should be running with a ‘small’ team. Quantifying what determines small and what they need is another question without knowing the details. For context Instagram has approximately 400 engineers. WhatsApp had 30 when it serviced 450 million users. According to LI data twitter had 3,000 before the acquisition.

It’s crap that people have lost their jobs and personally I can’t stand Elon Musk. I don’t think Twitter is going to collapse though, but time will tell. I think they will continue to operate with a leaner operation.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:40 - Nov 18 with 1927 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:06 - Nov 18 by SpruceMoose

I would have thought as a self-described Corbynista Dolly would have found these mass layoffs and hostile working conditions fairly abhorrent. But hey-ho.


I do.
I've literally said it's cr@p.

Your ability to read hasn't improved.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:43 - Nov 18 with 1921 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:37 - Nov 18 by the_toff

Nobody has suggested twitter should be running with a ‘small’ team. Quantifying what determines small and what they need is another question without knowing the details. For context Instagram has approximately 400 engineers. WhatsApp had 30 when it serviced 450 million users. According to LI data twitter had 3,000 before the acquisition.

It’s crap that people have lost their jobs and personally I can’t stand Elon Musk. I don’t think Twitter is going to collapse though, but time will tell. I think they will continue to operate with a leaner operation.


Yeah but blindly claiming what is large and small shows f ‘all context.

I don’t know how many staff members are needed to run a Tesco Express, so I trust those who do when they state it.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:45 - Nov 18 with 1921 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:09 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

That’s very much my take too.

I’m not angry, just disappointed.


WTF is wrong with you two? I've literally said it's cr@p. I've literally said I wasn't commenting on his practices re twitter specifically, but making an overall point.

You guys are bonkers in the nut. I still love you both, but MY GOD read what I'm actually typing.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:52 - Nov 18 with 1909 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:45 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

WTF is wrong with you two? I've literally said it's cr@p. I've literally said I wasn't commenting on his practices re twitter specifically, but making an overall point.

You guys are bonkers in the nut. I still love you both, but MY GOD read what I'm actually typing.


I tend to back up my take on why X thinks Y by stating “but here’s Z and why I believe that to be incorrect”.

If you start posting these defences with little logical challenge you’re platforming the action.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 20:55 - Nov 18 with 1833 viewsSwansea_Blue

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:01 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

So is being able to balance a spoon on one’s nose or kick a ball around well.


For some reason I read that as ‘So is being able to balance a spoon on one’s nose or dick’.

For a second there I thought I might have something to add.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 21:00 - Nov 18 with 1822 viewsDinDjarin

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:34 - Nov 18 by monytowbray

Perhaps you should go tell Google this. They have around 20k more engineers they’re wasting money on.

I bet the large software company you work for is a fraction of the size of Twitter in terms of traffic or you are in a position where you don’t get a look in at the back end. I’d trust Dan’s opinion on this more.


Being a Linux / Oracle Cloud Engineer I see plenty mate.

And comparing Google to twitter they ain't even close what they service.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 21:38 - Nov 18 with 1778 viewsZapers

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:56 - Nov 18 by The_Flashing_Smile

Which is a smart skill in itself...


You’re wasting your time. Haters will be haters. I wish I had 44billion to waste.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 22:30 - Nov 18 with 1721 viewsZapers

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 19:02 - Nov 18 by DanTheMan

Criticism of billionaires doesn't always imply jealousy you know.

You certainly seem like you do care.

I certainly care about the many people who have lost their jobs which is directly his fault.


But is it his fault? You don’t know this. Maybe, just maybe he doesn’t approve of the working practises that currently exist. He clearly wants to kick out the sort of people who don’t care if it’s profitable or not. Some people put principles before profit. Doesn’t work that way I’m afraid.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 22:39 - Nov 18 with 1700 viewsSpruceMoose

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 22:30 - Nov 18 by Zapers

But is it his fault? You don’t know this. Maybe, just maybe he doesn’t approve of the working practises that currently exist. He clearly wants to kick out the sort of people who don’t care if it’s profitable or not. Some people put principles before profit. Doesn’t work that way I’m afraid.


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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 00:28 - Nov 19 with 1604 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 22:39 - Nov 18 by SpruceMoose

Hi Mr Musk Sr!


I'm sure we can all agree that, smart or not, Musk is just not a very nice person.

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 01:14 - Nov 19 with 1551 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 21:38 - Nov 18 by Zapers

You’re wasting your time. Haters will be haters. I wish I had 44billion to waste.


With logic like that you can justify anything at any point in history done by anyone. I suppose Hitler has a fair few “haters who will be haters” too. Just jealous they don’t rule a whole country and a large chunk of Europe I guess! And Epstein. Suppose you’d be chuffed to have your very own underage sex trafficking island and hang out with Royalty all day.

Deffo no risk of a chunk of society stanning for an oppressive authoritarian version of capitalism with folks like yourself around.

I mean, your bestest mate billionaire believes he has genius sperm to the point of eugenic believes. That’s not genius, it’s anti-science ego-centric Nazi-esque horseh1t: https://web.archive.org/web/20221117155140/ https://www.businessinsider.com/pronatalism-elon-musk-simone-malcolm-collins-und

I guess the real question is what is your favourite flavour of boot? I’m guessing more expensive than you can afford. Daddy Elon isn’t going to give you some free crypto or seed you with his genius kids.
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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 01:15 - Nov 19 with 1550 viewsmonytowbray

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 21:00 - Nov 18 by DinDjarin

Being a Linux / Oracle Cloud Engineer I see plenty mate.

And comparing Google to twitter they ain't even close what they service.


You understand the basic concept of large businesses and large websites, right?

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Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 02:50 - Nov 19 with 1533 viewsBlueBadger

Well, looks like Elon Musk has destroyed Twitter on 18:29 - Nov 18 by DinDjarin

I work in for a large software company so know all the the different depts required to function from data warehouse staff / cloud engineers / dba's looking after the backend right through dev, qa, pm's, marketing, sales, architects etc.

7500 still seems a lot of staff for a live solution.


Didn't you spend a lot of the pandemic telling us how we didn't need infection control measures or vaccines?

Not sure I'm convince dbaout your expertise here.

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