| Following the thread about drinking earlier 16:25 - Nov 29 with 3521 views | homer_123 |
Does anyone else know of anyone who doesn't appear to be affected by alcohol.
What I mean is a very good friend of mine who I've know for over 30 years seems to be able to drink like a fish and in the years I've known him, I have never seem him drunk, ever, and he puts away serious amounts of the stuff - I've never met anyone else like him.
Either his tolerance is extremely high or he is immune? |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:31 - Nov 29 with 2559 views | SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think there is a gene that is particularly common in Finns, but also more common than usual in northern Europeans which means that some people can drink unfathomably large quantities of booze without feeling it. I know a geordie that can drink all day and night without any noticeable change. They also don't experience any kind of hangover. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:33 - Nov 29 with 2545 views | homer_123 |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:31 - Nov 29 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think there is a gene that is particularly common in Finns, but also more common than usual in northern Europeans which means that some people can drink unfathomably large quantities of booze without feeling it. I know a geordie that can drink all day and night without any noticeable change. They also don't experience any kind of hangover. |
Ah interesting. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 18:40 - Nov 29 with 2431 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:33 - Nov 29 by homer_123 |
Ah interesting. |
On the other side, many Asians and people of Asian descent have a gene that makes it difficult for them to break down alcohol and so they suffer terribly when they do drink..... |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 18:52 - Nov 29 with 2406 views | jeera |
There's a chap lives local to me who drinks pints of Guinness with whisky chasers.
I've joined him some way into his evening before and matched him drink for drink thereon and gone home a mess. As in, the bar staff were watching with interest as I tried to work out how the door worked on my way out kinda mess.
He was still as lucid as he had been when I walked in.
It must cost a fortune if /when he wants to get pissed. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:01 - Nov 29 with 2394 views | Oldsmoker |
I've always been known as a cheap date.
Unfortunately, very few women took advantage of me when I was "anybody's". |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:14 - Nov 29 with 2365 views | monytowbray |
Mate Si is a big drinker and beer is his choice, never seen him make a drunken fool of himself, never seen him incoherent, never put on a hint of a beer gut (I got mine at 20 and struggled to shift it, he’s 37 and fine).
Bloke is a drummer so may help on cardio. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:33 - Nov 29 with 2325 views | NthQldITFC |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:31 - Nov 29 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think there is a gene that is particularly common in Finns, but also more common than usual in northern Europeans which means that some people can drink unfathomably large quantities of booze without feeling it. I know a geordie that can drink all day and night without any noticeable change. They also don't experience any kind of hangover. |
I always thought that Norwich's ageing striker Tim O'Pukey couldn't hold his Guinness, but if he's actually a Finn, perhaps he can? |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:26 - Nov 30 with 2169 views | DJR |
Such people may be able to handle their beers etc, but it would be interesting to know what state their livers are in. There is also a condition known as alcohol-related dementia, which a cousin of my wife died from. [Post edited 30 Nov 2022 16:28]
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:45 - Nov 30 with 2133 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
I would be keen to know if anyone would regard said friends/acquaintances as alcoholics? As opposed to just being able to handle it.
Alcoholics obviously have a good tolerance though sheer volume of consumption and of course it doesn't necessarily follow that someone who holds their booze is an alcohol but it must make you think?
I ask because my mate who is an absolute lush and can sniff out booze in the most puritanical of dry counties used to work with a guy who was an alcoholic. She discovered this as she was floating round the office and her bloodhound nose smelt something it liked. She tracked said smell down to a bottle on her college's desk that looked like it contained some kind of juice or flavoured water but was in fact red wine at 10 am in the morning.
Her observation was that she would never have known otherwise. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:50 - Nov 30 with 2120 views | jeera |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:45 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
I would be keen to know if anyone would regard said friends/acquaintances as alcoholics? As opposed to just being able to handle it.
Alcoholics obviously have a good tolerance though sheer volume of consumption and of course it doesn't necessarily follow that someone who holds their booze is an alcohol but it must make you think?
I ask because my mate who is an absolute lush and can sniff out booze in the most puritanical of dry counties used to work with a guy who was an alcoholic. She discovered this as she was floating round the office and her bloodhound nose smelt something it liked. She tracked said smell down to a bottle on her college's desk that looked like it contained some kind of juice or flavoured water but was in fact red wine at 10 am in the morning.
Her observation was that she would never have known otherwise. |
"Alcoholics obviously have a good tolerance though sheer volume of consumption"
Hate to jump on you but stereotyping on this stuff isn't helpful. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:56 - Nov 30 with 2102 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:50 - Nov 30 by jeera |
"Alcoholics obviously have a good tolerance though sheer volume of consumption"
Hate to jump on you but stereotyping on this stuff isn't helpful. |
Am i wrong?
Happy to corrected if I am but my understanding is that alcoholics, by nature of being addicted to alcohol consume a lot of it and build up a tolerance? | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 17:48 - Nov 30 with 2043 views | mattyhollandsirish |
Yep. Got one particular mate who whilst he does get louder, apart from that, you'd think he's sober and he annoying he never gets a hangover. Genetics or luck of the draw I think. But also yeah, alcoholics by definition have a higher tolerance. Not sure why that would be seen as controversial. | | | |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 17:51 - Nov 30 with 2036 views | eireblue |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:31 - Nov 29 by SlippinJimmyJuan |
I think there is a gene that is particularly common in Finns, but also more common than usual in northern Europeans which means that some people can drink unfathomably large quantities of booze without feeling it. I know a geordie that can drink all day and night without any noticeable change. They also don't experience any kind of hangover. |
Hmmm…..not sure if you are making a general comment about the natural disposition of geordies here |  | | |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:11 - Nov 30 with 1967 views | KingsCrossBlue |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:50 - Nov 30 by jeera |
"Alcoholics obviously have a good tolerance though sheer volume of consumption"
Hate to jump on you but stereotyping on this stuff isn't helpful. |
Yeah, I’d classify myself as a very heavy drinker, but a high functioning one considering my day to day life. I’ve always been able to resist if I have to, but I really love booze!
I know a few alcoholics and whilst I probably drink more than them over the course of a week - it affects everyone differently and therefore results in different consequences. But those consequences can be so damaging, it changes lives and careers.
I do worry about my liver, but then I appear to be far healthier than most 43 year olds tbh.
I reckon I’ve had at least an alcoholic drink a day for the last ten years and write this with a Sancerre in hand now. I think I’m a genetic anomaly though and if I ever struggled, I’d get help immediately | | | |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:16 - Nov 30 with 1959 views | jeera |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:56 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Am i wrong?
Happy to corrected if I am but my understanding is that alcoholics, by nature of being addicted to alcohol consume a lot of it and build up a tolerance? |
I have known alcoholics to get pissed on only a few jars, not that that stopped them trying for more. But that isn't the whole point really.
The generalisation of the post is rather stereotyping to be honest, yes. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:19 - Nov 30 with 1952 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 16:56 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Am i wrong?
Happy to corrected if I am but my understanding is that alcoholics, by nature of being addicted to alcohol consume a lot of it and build up a tolerance? |
Not always, my experience with full blown alcoholics is that they get pissed early doors - sometimes because they are just topping themselves up. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:21 - Nov 30 with 1945 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:16 - Nov 30 by jeera |
I have known alcoholics to get pissed on only a few jars, not that that stopped them trying for more. But that isn't the whole point really.
The generalisation of the post is rather stereotyping to be honest, yes. |
Fair enough, next time feel free to just offer your insight, its not a problem. This is how we learn.
My understanding had always been that like many things, most of us build tolerances to anything we consume a lot off over time so I've learnt today. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:24 - Nov 30 with 1932 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:21 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Fair enough, next time feel free to just offer your insight, its not a problem. This is how we learn.
My understanding had always been that like many things, most of us build tolerances to anything we consume a lot off over time so I've learnt today. |
You’re an alcoholicist. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:25 - Nov 30 with 1925 views | jeera |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:11 - Nov 30 by KingsCrossBlue |
Yeah, I’d classify myself as a very heavy drinker, but a high functioning one considering my day to day life. I’ve always been able to resist if I have to, but I really love booze!
I know a few alcoholics and whilst I probably drink more than them over the course of a week - it affects everyone differently and therefore results in different consequences. But those consequences can be so damaging, it changes lives and careers.
I do worry about my liver, but then I appear to be far healthier than most 43 year olds tbh.
I reckon I’ve had at least an alcoholic drink a day for the last ten years and write this with a Sancerre in hand now. I think I’m a genetic anomaly though and if I ever struggled, I’d get help immediately |
It's a subject that crops up at the doctors isn't it, when they ask your consumption, which usually feels like a waste of time because they never seem to believe you whatever you say.
Mind you, blood tests are incredible nowadays and habits are easily detected.
I've met some differing angles on this from different doctors; some have been overwhelmingly judgemental and preachy whereas one senior I knew I had often seen in the local sitting at the bar so he tended to not be so preachy.
One I liked said she couldn't do her job without knocking back a few glasses of wine in the evenings but maintained it was important to "have a couple of days off a week to allow the body to recover". So to manage drinking. Speaking for herself too by the sound of it.
I would respectfully suggest you follow that advice as it stands. At least for one day a week as you are now at 'that' age.
Wouldn't hurt to take a month out per year either for a bit of a reset. And to show you can and all that.
Not February, that's cheating. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:58 - Nov 30 with 1806 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:11 - Nov 30 by KingsCrossBlue |
Yeah, I’d classify myself as a very heavy drinker, but a high functioning one considering my day to day life. I’ve always been able to resist if I have to, but I really love booze!
I know a few alcoholics and whilst I probably drink more than them over the course of a week - it affects everyone differently and therefore results in different consequences. But those consequences can be so damaging, it changes lives and careers.
I do worry about my liver, but then I appear to be far healthier than most 43 year olds tbh.
I reckon I’ve had at least an alcoholic drink a day for the last ten years and write this with a Sancerre in hand now. I think I’m a genetic anomaly though and if I ever struggled, I’d get help immediately |
My vice has always been the devils lettuce and if I'm being honest with myself I would say I am addicted to weed. Not to the substance perhaps but certainly the habit, I am not a casual smoker and whilst I toy with the idea of giving up I'm not sure I ever will. That said I do not consider myself to be weed dependent, I don't smoke until after work and whilst I miss it, if on holiday or visiting family and its almost certainly the first thing i do when i get back I function without it perfectly well. Like you with your vice I would say I just bloody love it.
I say all this because I'm genuinely interested in the subject of substance misuse and in particular the various lines that some people do or don't cross and the perspectives that we all have as to where they are drawn
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I am addicted to weed but I do not consider myself a weedaholic because I am not dependent on it. Many people would argue that I am an example of subject misuse but (perhaps in denial) do not consider myself to be. This is just my perspective on my lifestyle, I'm not saying anyone else would feel the same towards their vices but for anyone who cares to share much like you have already done I'm really curious about how we perceive those relationships. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:13 - Nov 30 with 1764 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 19:58 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
My vice has always been the devils lettuce and if I'm being honest with myself I would say I am addicted to weed. Not to the substance perhaps but certainly the habit, I am not a casual smoker and whilst I toy with the idea of giving up I'm not sure I ever will. That said I do not consider myself to be weed dependent, I don't smoke until after work and whilst I miss it, if on holiday or visiting family and its almost certainly the first thing i do when i get back I function without it perfectly well. Like you with your vice I would say I just bloody love it.
I say all this because I'm genuinely interested in the subject of substance misuse and in particular the various lines that some people do or don't cross and the perspectives that we all have as to where they are drawn
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I am addicted to weed but I do not consider myself a weedaholic because I am not dependent on it. Many people would argue that I am an example of subject misuse but (perhaps in denial) do not consider myself to be. This is just my perspective on my lifestyle, I'm not saying anyone else would feel the same towards their vices but for anyone who cares to share much like you have already done I'm really curious about how we perceive those relationships. |
You’re addicted to weed but not dependent on it?
Each to their own at the end of the day.
Personally I’ve always put weed down at the bottom of the ladder and I just don’t like the the fact that a disproportionately high amount of people I have known have been screwed by it.
One of my best mates ended up in Ramptom for years and years.
He’s out now but will never be normal. | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:32 - Nov 30 with 1699 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:13 - Nov 30 by Lord_Lucan |
You’re addicted to weed but not dependent on it?
Each to their own at the end of the day.
Personally I’ve always put weed down at the bottom of the ladder and I just don’t like the the fact that a disproportionately high amount of people I have known have been screwed by it.
One of my best mates ended up in Ramptom for years and years.
He’s out now but will never be normal. |
Yes.
I can go without if I have to, without withdrawal symptoms or mood changes etc but I would absolutely say I am addicted and i don't want to go without, I just will.
I would say most of my friends are similar in their relationships with it. It does have very negative effects on some people I'm not aware of anyone I know who uses regularly that have experienced issues. This is exactly why I find the subject so interesting, as a smoker I am aware my experience is a personal one | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:51 - Nov 30 with 1673 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:32 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Yes.
I can go without if I have to, without withdrawal symptoms or mood changes etc but I would absolutely say I am addicted and i don't want to go without, I just will.
I would say most of my friends are similar in their relationships with it. It does have very negative effects on some people I'm not aware of anyone I know who uses regularly that have experienced issues. This is exactly why I find the subject so interesting, as a smoker I am aware my experience is a personal one |
Good on you and do whatever you want.
I’m an unfashionable liberal inasmuch as I think everyone should do as they want. I want a small man government.
Thing is, as I replied to your post and in a way demonising weed I did think to myself - I’ve got a few pains in my back that I think may be kidney pains, been going on for a few months now so might have to think about seeing the Doc.
So - as much as I appeared to demonise weed I guess it would have to be my next port of call if I was told I couldn’t drink again.
I’m not that daft to rely on coke or ket to substitute beer!!!
As I say - each to their own - it’s just that some of the Smokey sh1t these days is proper crazy - what’s wrong with a bit of Red Leb? | |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 07:36 - Dec 1 with 1488 views | unbelievablue |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:51 - Nov 30 by Lord_Lucan |
Good on you and do whatever you want.
I’m an unfashionable liberal inasmuch as I think everyone should do as they want. I want a small man government.
Thing is, as I replied to your post and in a way demonising weed I did think to myself - I’ve got a few pains in my back that I think may be kidney pains, been going on for a few months now so might have to think about seeing the Doc.
So - as much as I appeared to demonise weed I guess it would have to be my next port of call if I was told I couldn’t drink again.
I’m not that daft to rely on coke or ket to substitute beer!!!
As I say - each to their own - it’s just that some of the Smokey sh1t these days is proper crazy - what’s wrong with a bit of Red Leb? |
I think that's libertarian, not liberal, old boy.
Re: addiction, there are different forms of it. People tend to assume it's physiological, or psychological. It can be either or a blend of both, from what I've read. |  |
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| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 07:38 - Dec 1 with 1485 views | unbelievablue |
| Following the thread about drinking earlier on 20:32 - Nov 30 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Yes.
I can go without if I have to, without withdrawal symptoms or mood changes etc but I would absolutely say I am addicted and i don't want to go without, I just will.
I would say most of my friends are similar in their relationships with it. It does have very negative effects on some people I'm not aware of anyone I know who uses regularly that have experienced issues. This is exactly why I find the subject so interesting, as a smoker I am aware my experience is a personal one |
A friend of mine (also known to Lucan, funnily enough) has just given up after very high consumption for a very long time. I was supposed to see him tonight and was going to ask how it was going but I've got the 'rona and feel crap, annoyingly. | |
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