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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) 21:03 - Dec 1 with 3414 viewsVic


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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:11 - Dec 1 with 3369 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:27 - Dec 1 with 3321 viewsHARRY10

best record

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:30 - Dec 1 with 3303 viewstractordownsouth

#SouthgateOut

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:40 - Dec 1 with 3263 viewsGlasgowBlue

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:27 - Dec 1 by HARRY10

best record



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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:22 - Dec 2 with 3038 viewssolemio

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:30 - Dec 1 by tractordownsouth

#SouthgateOut


Yes, he's gone shopping.
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:28 - Dec 2 with 3018 viewsSimonds92

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:30 - Dec 1 by tractordownsouth

#SouthgateOut


He's also won more games at major tournaments than any other English manager.
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:30 - Dec 2 with 3006 viewstractordownsouth

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:28 - Dec 2 by Simonds92

He's also won more games at major tournaments than any other English manager.


Abysmal. Bring back Capello.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:32 - Dec 2 with 2992 viewsclive_baker

It's almost like all that blubbing after drawing with USA was a massive overreaction.

9 goals, 7 points, back-to-back clean sheets, knocked out Wales and topped the group to avoid France in the next round. Also managed to rest Saka and Sterling, got Kane and Rice off early and got 60 vital minutes into Walker.

It's going alright. It's knockout football, anything can happen and we've got a sniff. No more of a sniff than a handful of other sides but arguably not much less of one either. I would give England a 10% - 15% chance of winning the thing.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:35 - Dec 2 with 2972 viewsCaptainAhab

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:32 - Dec 2 by clive_baker

It's almost like all that blubbing after drawing with USA was a massive overreaction.

9 goals, 7 points, back-to-back clean sheets, knocked out Wales and topped the group to avoid France in the next round. Also managed to rest Saka and Sterling, got Kane and Rice off early and got 60 vital minutes into Walker.

It's going alright. It's knockout football, anything can happen and we've got a sniff. No more of a sniff than a handful of other sides but arguably not much less of one either. I would give England a 10% - 15% chance of winning the thing.


All true, except topping the group didn't make us avoid France in the next round, we're scheduled to meet them in the quarters
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:38 - Dec 2 with 2956 viewsclive_baker

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:35 - Dec 2 by CaptainAhab

All true, except topping the group didn't make us avoid France in the next round, we're scheduled to meet them in the quarters


You're correct, good point. It was Senegal or Netherlands wasn't it.

Prediction time: USA will beat Netherlands.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 10:54 - Dec 2 with 2850 viewsCaptainAhab

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:38 - Dec 2 by clive_baker

You're correct, good point. It was Senegal or Netherlands wasn't it.

Prediction time: USA will beat Netherlands.


Yep, could definitely see that happening. Lots of the big boys being caught out this year, expecting to win without putting the work in
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:28 - Dec 2 with 2780 viewsFrimleyBlue

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:32 - Dec 2 by clive_baker

It's almost like all that blubbing after drawing with USA was a massive overreaction.

9 goals, 7 points, back-to-back clean sheets, knocked out Wales and topped the group to avoid France in the next round. Also managed to rest Saka and Sterling, got Kane and Rice off early and got 60 vital minutes into Walker.

It's going alright. It's knockout football, anything can happen and we've got a sniff. No more of a sniff than a handful of other sides but arguably not much less of one either. I would give England a 10% - 15% chance of winning the thing.


Southgate and England is pretty much what Mick was with town. He has a job to do. He makes it happen. It's not pleasing on the eye but it works.

If we win the world cup.. doesn't that make Southgate the most successful English manager ever? Think I head on tele the other might he's managed 16 competition games and won 10 of them....

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:41 - Dec 2 with 2741 viewsclive_baker

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:28 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue

Southgate and England is pretty much what Mick was with town. He has a job to do. He makes it happen. It's not pleasing on the eye but it works.

If we win the world cup.. doesn't that make Southgate the most successful English manager ever? Think I head on tele the other might he's managed 16 competition games and won 10 of them....


I wouldn't say England aren't easy on the eye. We've got serious quality and pace out wide and in the final 3rd, and we're nowhere near as direct as McCarthy's 4-4-2. I would say England are more like Ipswich now under McKenna. There's a level of pragmatism with Southgate's 'double pivot' but I think that's largely because he's not convinced with us defensively and the opening game didn't do much to reassure him.

A World Cup Semi, a Euros final (lost on pens) and a World Cup would almost certainly have to make him the most successful England manager. I think there's an argument that he would have won the WC when it's harder to win too. If I had to punt now I would say we'll go out in the 1/4s or Semis but here's hoping we don't.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:49 - Dec 2 with 2715 viewsBluefields

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:28 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue

Southgate and England is pretty much what Mick was with town. He has a job to do. He makes it happen. It's not pleasing on the eye but it works.

If we win the world cup.. doesn't that make Southgate the most successful English manager ever? Think I head on tele the other might he's managed 16 competition games and won 10 of them....


Id rather watch Southgates England than Micks ITFC any day.
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:58 - Dec 2 with 2690 viewsRyorry

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:41 - Dec 2 by clive_baker

I wouldn't say England aren't easy on the eye. We've got serious quality and pace out wide and in the final 3rd, and we're nowhere near as direct as McCarthy's 4-4-2. I would say England are more like Ipswich now under McKenna. There's a level of pragmatism with Southgate's 'double pivot' but I think that's largely because he's not convinced with us defensively and the opening game didn't do much to reassure him.

A World Cup Semi, a Euros final (lost on pens) and a World Cup would almost certainly have to make him the most successful England manager. I think there's an argument that he would have won the WC when it's harder to win too. If I had to punt now I would say we'll go out in the 1/4s or Semis but here's hoping we don't.


I think many (most?) England fans have under-rated Senegal since the start of the comp, they're still a good team even without Mane. Hope they don't prove to be our 'shock result', following those others for 'big' teams.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 13:07 - Dec 2 with 2618 viewsclive_baker

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:58 - Dec 2 by Ryorry

I think many (most?) England fans have under-rated Senegal since the start of the comp, they're still a good team even without Mane. Hope they don't prove to be our 'shock result', following those others for 'big' teams.


It won't be easy, they're big, fast and physical which isn't dissimilar to USA who we struggled against. I would really fancy us against classically European sides, I think we've got the speed of thought and execution against a Poland, Croatia, Netherlands. Certainly Australia too in terms of how they play. I agree Senegal won't be easy but I think we'll have plenty of the ball and hopefully can unpick them. They do tend to concede.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 13:54 - Dec 2 with 2469 viewsBiGDonnie

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:28 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue

Southgate and England is pretty much what Mick was with town. He has a job to do. He makes it happen. It's not pleasing on the eye but it works.

If we win the world cup.. doesn't that make Southgate the most successful English manager ever? Think I head on tele the other might he's managed 16 competition games and won 10 of them....


Even for you this comment is ridiculous.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 14:42 - Dec 2 with 2402 viewsFrimleyBlue

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 13:54 - Dec 2 by BiGDonnie

Even for you this comment is ridiculous.


how so Donnie?

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 14:47 - Dec 2 with 2381 viewsFrimleyBlue

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 11:41 - Dec 2 by clive_baker

I wouldn't say England aren't easy on the eye. We've got serious quality and pace out wide and in the final 3rd, and we're nowhere near as direct as McCarthy's 4-4-2. I would say England are more like Ipswich now under McKenna. There's a level of pragmatism with Southgate's 'double pivot' but I think that's largely because he's not convinced with us defensively and the opening game didn't do much to reassure him.

A World Cup Semi, a Euros final (lost on pens) and a World Cup would almost certainly have to make him the most successful England manager. I think there's an argument that he would have won the WC when it's harder to win too. If I had to punt now I would say we'll go out in the 1/4s or Semis but here's hoping we don't.


It's all personal preference really, Some will take to the patient football and when we do attack, at points it is fast and exciting, but like the USA game, there are times where it's a frustrating watch. BUT he's a manager who will go into a game like that with a don't lose mentality which imo was prime Mick in his " wouldn't get on the bus if you offered me a draw" mentality.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 17:15 - Dec 2 with 2264 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 14:47 - Dec 2 by FrimleyBlue

It's all personal preference really, Some will take to the patient football and when we do attack, at points it is fast and exciting, but like the USA game, there are times where it's a frustrating watch. BUT he's a manager who will go into a game like that with a don't lose mentality which imo was prime Mick in his " wouldn't get on the bus if you offered me a draw" mentality.


Every point's a prisoner doesn't work so well in knock-out football though.

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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 17:19 - Dec 2 with 2252 viewsVaughan8

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 09:28 - Dec 2 by Simonds92

He's also won more games at major tournaments than any other English manager.


Difficult to judge the older managers. 24 teams (or less) in the older tournaments so its less diluted with the worse teams.

Also 2 fairly easy groups in the Euros and This WC.

However, the criticism of him is so over the top. Yes we don't play too attacking, but he does seem to get results (most of the time)
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So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 18:40 - Dec 2 with 2183 viewsbluestandard

So England go through with the best record of all the teams. (n/t) on 21:11 - Dec 1 by You_Bloo_Right

Brazil and Portugal, "Hold my beer"


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