| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! 14:28 - Dec 3 with 10515 views | cbower |
Gutted we didn't win last night but the bed wetting about dropping out of top two was unnecessary. |  |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:13 - Dec 4 with 1391 views | MattinLondon |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:01 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
And the fact our owners give that level of investment and support for the manager shows how different his position is compared to every previous manager. |
The owners do invest in the club no one is debating that. But they only brought the club due to the fact that our support base is very good for L1. Sponsorship, merchandise sales etc all contribute towards a high level of transfer budget.
Cook was hopeless as was Lambert - Hurst could have been different but he lacked the patience and man management to affect change properly. KM seems to be different, someone with an eye for detail but with that comes expectations. And that expectation is promotion- hopefully automatic. |  | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:16 - Dec 4 with 1380 views | positivity |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 11:47 - Dec 4 by FrimleyBlue |
Don't discuss football on a forum then. This isn't a place for experienced and knowledgeable football coaches. Its a bunch of ipswich supporters.
You say we aren't spending like man City in league 1. We spent 1.5 mill on a defender.. that Is absolutely crazy for this level.
BTW. You don't need to take anyone seriously. It might stop you getting worked up. |
we're competing against equally big clubs like sheffield & derby, and against teams who've recently been in championship and have squads to reflect that.
we're certainly not the man city of this league, probably one of half a dozen liverpools |  |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:18 - Dec 4 with 1373 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:07 - Dec 4 by blueislander |
Burley was given loads of money, and look what he did with it. |
The one exception to the rule, when he and old pink face got carried away with one good season in the prem and made decisions that wrecked the club for a generation. Point still stands that the level of investment at present has given McK a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:24 - Dec 4 with 1368 views | MattinLondon |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:18 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
The one exception to the rule, when he and old pink face got carried away with one good season in the prem and made decisions that wrecked the club for a generation. Point still stands that the level of investment at present has given McK a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition. |
Point of order. I’m pretty sure that money which was spent on the team then was based on ITV digital providing the funds through coverage. The fact that they went bust wasn’t foreseen. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:34 - Dec 4 with 1351 views | positivity |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:18 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
The one exception to the rule, when he and old pink face got carried away with one good season in the prem and made decisions that wrecked the club for a generation. Point still stands that the level of investment at present has given McK a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition. |
we're one of a few clubs where the level of investment and quality of squad has given their teams a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition.
we're above all of them in the table at present | |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:37 - Dec 4 with 1339 views | Stewart27 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 16:14 - Dec 3 by pointofblue |
They matched us because we were poor rather than they were good.
Furthermore, yes, we're still second and closer to top. But we could have stolen a march on Plymouth and Wednesday but failed to do so. We got away with the result rather than this round of games being a success. |
But we didn’t steal a march on them and we have no right to.
They didn’t gain ground on us either and have no right to.
If we’d have won every game we’d be 20 odd points clear - but we haven’t. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:42 - Dec 4 with 1334 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:24 - Dec 4 by MattinLondon |
Point of order. I’m pretty sure that money which was spent on the team then was based on ITV digital providing the funds through coverage. The fact that they went bust wasn’t foreseen. |
Fact is the deal was not with itv but itv digital, a separate company owned by the itv companies with no liability on them if itv digital failed. They just wrote off their investment and walked away. A paytv channel based on football outside the prem was never going to be a success. That ITFC invested heavily on the back of the deal was sheer folly. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:45 - Dec 4 with 1325 views | pointofblue |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:42 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Fact is the deal was not with itv but itv digital, a separate company owned by the itv companies with no liability on them if itv digital failed. They just wrote off their investment and walked away. A paytv channel based on football outside the prem was never going to be a success. That ITFC invested heavily on the back of the deal was sheer folly. |
Leicester and Derby did the same. It speaks volumes that all three sides who were relegated in 2001-2002 went into administration soon after. | |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:45 - Dec 4 with 1324 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:34 - Dec 4 by positivity |
we're one of a few clubs where the level of investment and quality of squad has given their teams a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition.
we're above all of them in the table at present |
So overall McK has done, at best, no better than should be expected then. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:55 - Dec 4 with 1316 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:18 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
The one exception to the rule, when he and old pink face got carried away with one good season in the prem and made decisions that wrecked the club for a generation. Point still stands that the level of investment at present has given McK a huge advantage over nearly all of the competition. |
Magilton (towards the end), Keane and Jewell had loads of money to spend at a time when Evans money should have made all the difference.
I find it bizarre you constantly seek to be so negative. Also notable you disregard anything we do away from home presumably because you don't attend. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:04 - Dec 4 with 1300 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:55 - Dec 4 by tractorboy1978 |
Magilton (towards the end), Keane and Jewell had loads of money to spend at a time when Evans money should have made all the difference.
I find it bizarre you constantly seek to be so negative. Also notable you disregard anything we do away from home presumably because you don't attend. |
I don't disregard what we do away, if away results were as the home we wouldn't be anywhere near second. Fact is comments on the forum at this tine are in the context of following a home game, and in the context of Ashton's oft stated goal of really packing out PR on a regular basis, home performances and results matter more. Perhaps if I funded opponents like the minority do I would have a different view. McKenna must do better at home. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:08 - Dec 4 with 1286 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:45 - Dec 4 by pointofblue |
Leicester and Derby did the same. It speaks volumes that all three sides who were relegated in 2001-2002 went into administration soon after. |
Absolutely. Naive idiots there too. Did the Football League not tell the clubs that the itv companies were just taking a punt on paytv with no guarantee the league would actually get what was expected. Pity we didn't have anyone on the inside with the FL. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:16 - Dec 4 with 1275 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:04 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
I don't disregard what we do away, if away results were as the home we wouldn't be anywhere near second. Fact is comments on the forum at this tine are in the context of following a home game, and in the context of Ashton's oft stated goal of really packing out PR on a regular basis, home performances and results matter more. Perhaps if I funded opponents like the minority do I would have a different view. McKenna must do better at home. |
Our home and away results/performances are barely different. We are a couple of chances taken away from them being identical. We are on course for a 97 point season. It baffles me how downbeat you and a few others on here are. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:23 - Dec 4 with 1260 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:16 - Dec 4 by tractorboy1978 |
Our home and away results/performances are barely different. We are a couple of chances taken away from them being identical. We are on course for a 97 point season. It baffles me how downbeat you and a few others on here are. |
50% win rate at home, 70% away, "barely different"!!!!!!!!!! | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:23 - Dec 4 with 1259 views | jayessess |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 10:57 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Trouble is too many people are too easily satisfied and are just grateful that things are better than before. They're happy with what we've got and would rather watch us do well in the third division than face the greater challenges of the second.
Away results are masking the fact that home results overall are not good enough, particularly given the resource and backing advantage (as never before) we have over most opponents. 5 home wins in 10 this season following 3 in the last 7 last season. 3 goals in the last 4, 2 from corners the other from a bad back pass. Every justification for dissatisfaction. |
Do away wins not count then?
Some Town fans seem to be addicted to complaining... |  |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:31 - Dec 4 with 1253 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:23 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
50% win rate at home, 70% away, "barely different"!!!!!!!!!! |
23 points vs 19 points. So one missed chance away vs one taken chance at home away from being identical. Or one refereeing decision away vs one refereeing decision at home from being identical. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:33 - Dec 4 with 1248 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:23 - Dec 4 by jayessess |
Do away wins not count then?
Some Town fans seem to be addicted to complaining... |
Oh dear oh dear. Completely ignoring the point again that comments at the moment are following another home failure. Away wins are making up for the inadequacy of home performances, doesn't mean people should not be dissatisfied at how we're doing at home. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:39 - Dec 4 with 1239 views | MattinLondon |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:33 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Oh dear oh dear. Completely ignoring the point again that comments at the moment are following another home failure. Away wins are making up for the inadequacy of home performances, doesn't mean people should not be dissatisfied at how we're doing at home. |
Don’t understand your point. All that matters is points regardless of whether they come from being at home or away. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:40 - Dec 4 with 1237 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:31 - Dec 4 by tractorboy1978 |
23 points vs 19 points. So one missed chance away vs one taken chance at home away from being identical. Or one refereeing decision away vs one refereeing decision at home from being identical. |
Could turn that around one more missed chance at home vs one less chance taken away from making it further apart. Same with the referring decisions. Fine margins in football all the time. Fact remains 5 wins in 10 at home, and getting worse, is not good enough. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:44 - Dec 4 with 1224 views | AlanG296 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:39 - Dec 4 by MattinLondon |
Don’t understand your point. All that matters is points regardless of whether they come from being at home or away. |
In one way I agree with you but in the greater context of rebuilding the Club and home support levels home results matter more. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:46 - Dec 4 with 1216 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:40 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Could turn that around one more missed chance at home vs one less chance taken away from making it further apart. Same with the referring decisions. Fine margins in football all the time. Fact remains 5 wins in 10 at home, and getting worse, is not good enough. |
You said it, fine margins. Yet you bleat on incessantly on here like we have some fundamental problem when we sit 2nd. | | | |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:48 - Dec 4 with 1210 views | jayessess |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:33 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Oh dear oh dear. Completely ignoring the point again that comments at the moment are following another home failure. Away wins are making up for the inadequacy of home performances, doesn't mean people should not be dissatisfied at how we're doing at home. |
Maybe we could let our performances across the season as a whole inform our judgements? Rather than just having a knee jerk flip out every time we drop points? | |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 14:01 - Dec 4 with 1184 views | positivity |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 12:45 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
So overall McK has done, at best, no better than should be expected then. |
we've done better than all the other clubs with similar advantages, so he's done better than expected, plymouth have done even better than that though! | |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 14:09 - Dec 4 with 1175 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 10:56 - Dec 4 by MattinLondon |
No where near a Man City budget albeit at L1 level. Utter idiocy to think that. |
Our transfer spend last Summer dwarfed the division, and then we signed 3 players in the Summer who each cost more than the rest of the division spent in total, combined. If anything Man City’s budget is nowhere near ours, in relative terms |  |
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| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 14:16 - Dec 4 with 1170 views | jayessess |
| Oooh we're still 2nd and a point closer to top! on 13:40 - Dec 4 by AlanG296 |
Could turn that around one more missed chance at home vs one less chance taken away from making it further apart. Same with the referring decisions. Fine margins in football all the time. Fact remains 5 wins in 10 at home, and getting worse, is not good enough. |
"Fine margins" here explains the difference between our home and away form, does it not?
A deflected cross happened to drop to Freddie Ladapo at Port Vale, a similar cross was just beyond Cameron Humphreys' reach on Friday. Exeter got one chance and Walton saved it, Cheltenham got one chance and Walton missed an easy save.
This is just the normal variation you get with a team that's on top in most games. | |
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