| Say what you want about Paul Cook 13:20 - Dec 27 with 15102 views | TalkingBlues |
But by god he made some bloody good acquisitions for this club, many of which still form the beating heart of the team and the outlay, or lack thereof, is also pretty remarkable:
Aluko - Free
Walton - Loan, subsequently signed by McK permanently for ???
Burns - Undisclosed (but rumoured to be around £350k)
Morsy - Undisclosed
Celina - loan
Evans - Free
Edmundson - £875k
Burgess - £880k
Chaplin - £875k
Edwards - Free
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:43 - Dec 27 with 2214 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 18:06 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'Those two and other senior pros were treated disgracefully by Cook'
Disgracefully???? What??? Them two and majority of that squad treated an Ipswich shirt disgracefully. The darkest and worst era in the history of the club. How on earth can you have a sympathy for them?
Yeah, they went to Evans as they wanted Hurst to be sacked. They didn't start performing though following his departure.
Them two were the integral part of the worst ever Ipswich team that got relegated without any semblance of fight. And there was no real effort to get the club back to the Championship.
Almost entire squads attitude stunk. But it was all about their bank accounts just not an Ipswich shirt.
They kept waffling the same soundbites on the weekly basis in their interviews.
The club was a nice, easy payday for them and the rest of the players.
'helping players settle in' ... again !!!! Hey man this is Ipswich, nice and easy payday, Evans doesn't give a fook, just enjoy it.
They tried to 'protect' the club that what you have said.....protect from what? [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 18:15]
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"Them two were the integral part of the worst ever Ipswich team that got relegated without any semblance of fight. And there was no real effort to get the club back to the Championship.
Almost entire squads attitude stunk. But it was all about their bank accounts just not an Ipswich shirt."
I mean, they'll have got massive pay cuts by getting relegated, but hey, nice easy payday eh! |  | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:48 - Dec 27 with 2182 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:43 - Dec 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
"Them two were the integral part of the worst ever Ipswich team that got relegated without any semblance of fight. And there was no real effort to get the club back to the Championship.
Almost entire squads attitude stunk. But it was all about their bank accounts just not an Ipswich shirt."
I mean, they'll have got massive pay cuts by getting relegated, but hey, nice easy payday eh! |
And they were so determined to get the Championship wages back by performing like they did in League One, weren't they? But it was 'obviously' Lamberts fault, eh? Not the players, poor souls !
They didn't mind further pay cuts in their careers though and accepted Colchester offers. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 20:52]
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:52 - Dec 27 with 2170 views | pointofblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:34 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Oh yeah, lets blame Hurst, lets blame Lambert, lets blame Cook.....all of them are to be blamed. Not the players, eh?
Loads of same players played for these three managers somehow though some people keep fawning over these players and blame managers.
Treating some players like icons despite the fact they took us down without a fight and that was followed by a couple of bleak seasons in League One. The worst era in the history of the club yet some players are treated so nicely. And this is really baffling to put it kindly. |
Hurst ripped apart a Championship quality squad and bought in players who were either not able or not ready for second level football. By the time Lambert came in our goose was cooked and Evans didn't have the finances or didn't want to spend to bring in the quality needed in January.
The difference in quality, squad rise, between what we had under Lambert and what Cook was able to bring in in over his summer was chalk and cheese. By the time Cook arrived, the players were deflated, downtrodden, defeated. The squad turnover could have been handled better from a personnel point of view, but it was needed. Should we have done better under Lambert? Definitely. But it says how weak we were mentally as a club that one defeat resulted in us falling apart.
What happened at the start of 2021/2022 is an utter mystery. Defesively, we looked clueless. Compared to what we had now, there was no shape, no system, no tactical design. Mistakes seemed to snowball into more mistakes, players were dropped on a whim rather than part of an overall plan. It was a farce we were where we were when the consortium finally called time and brought in McKenna. | |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:07 - Dec 27 with 2136 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 18:06 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'Those two and other senior pros were treated disgracefully by Cook'
Disgracefully???? What??? Them two and majority of that squad treated an Ipswich shirt disgracefully. The darkest and worst era in the history of the club. How on earth can you have a sympathy for them?
Yeah, they went to Evans as they wanted Hurst to be sacked. They didn't start performing though following his departure.
Them two were the integral part of the worst ever Ipswich team that got relegated without any semblance of fight. And there was no real effort to get the club back to the Championship.
Almost entire squads attitude stunk. But it was all about their bank accounts just not an Ipswich shirt.
They kept waffling the same soundbites on the weekly basis in their interviews.
The club was a nice, easy payday for them and the rest of the players.
'helping players settle in' ... again !!!! Hey man this is Ipswich, nice and easy payday, Evans doesn't give a fook, just enjoy it.
They tried to 'protect' the club that what you have said.....protect from what? [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 18:15]
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Your toxicity towards Chambers and Skuse and co is rather ott. You do realise that the squad the manager who got rid of them replaced them with got the club to 11th after the lot he got rid of finished 9th? Are that squad also a bunch of wasters? It makes McKenna getting a tune out of most of them even more impressive doesn't it?
I can understand the idea many of them were past it but a good manager could have got a lot more out of the squad. That isn't about the attitude of the players but about good management including tactics and roles. |  |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:08 - Dec 27 with 2132 views | jas0999 |
Very good players - agree.
Sadly, badly managed by Cook who had no idea. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:17 - Dec 27 with 2084 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:48 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
And they were so determined to get the Championship wages back by performing like they did in League One, weren't they? But it was 'obviously' Lamberts fault, eh? Not the players, poor souls !
They didn't mind further pay cuts in their careers though and accepted Colchester offers. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 20:52]
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Pop quiz Mach...what tends to happen to players the further into their 30s they get? How much propulsive force did you expect a 35-year-old defender and 34-year-old defensive midfielder to instil into a team that had a frontline of Ellis Harrison and Kayden Jackson? | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:28 - Dec 27 with 2042 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:52 - Dec 27 by pointofblue |
Hurst ripped apart a Championship quality squad and bought in players who were either not able or not ready for second level football. By the time Lambert came in our goose was cooked and Evans didn't have the finances or didn't want to spend to bring in the quality needed in January.
The difference in quality, squad rise, between what we had under Lambert and what Cook was able to bring in in over his summer was chalk and cheese. By the time Cook arrived, the players were deflated, downtrodden, defeated. The squad turnover could have been handled better from a personnel point of view, but it was needed. Should we have done better under Lambert? Definitely. But it says how weak we were mentally as a club that one defeat resulted in us falling apart.
What happened at the start of 2021/2022 is an utter mystery. Defesively, we looked clueless. Compared to what we had now, there was no shape, no system, no tactical design. Mistakes seemed to snowball into more mistakes, players were dropped on a whim rather than part of an overall plan. It was a farce we were where we were when the consortium finally called time and brought in McKenna. |
Yes. Hurst and his recruitment turned out to be catastrophic. Moreover there was no chemistry between him and players. That doesn't mean it was all his fault what happened. Just because he may have been a d1ckhead to them isn't an excuse for them having not performed.
They tried everything to get him sacked. Do you remember that abject defeat 0-2 to Middlesbrough on Tuesday night? Particularly their second goal and set-up by Chambers. Do you genuinely think it was a 'mistake'? Looked more like a sabotage one.
So they got Hurst sacked and the first game following his departure was against Milwall away. Most of the players in our opening line-up were 'proper blokes', ITFC homegrown products. Only two of these starters were Hursts lower league signings. We also had an Ipswich man in charge (temporary one in Klug). Lambert was in the stands. So Hurst left, new era and there ought to have been some positive elements in our display . How did it end? Horrific 0-3 defeat and Millwall fans had been saying that Ipswich team was the worst one ever in the Championship to have visited their place.
Nothing really changed following Lamberts arrival. No fight, no effort in the subsequent months. The players weren't bothered. People for some reason keep fawning over them.
It was all so clear and visible yet Skuse had a temerity to insult fans with the interview like this. He'd truly shine in all his interviews.
And https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/21446225.we-know-havent-got-eternity-pick-points---
“You won’t find a more honest group of lads than what we’ve got here,” he added.
“We’re up for the fight and we can only keep going but we know we need to start picking up points'
They were up for the 'fight'. 
Soon after that they were applauded by SBR stand for the relegation and its manner.
League One and not much changed. Players telling us about the commitment, desire in their interviews but it was hollow words. For some reason they remain free of criticism for some people and it is all managers fault.
As we know Evans was the main problem and reason of our decline but the players were equally a big one too. Player-power was a real problem at the club and no wonder that Hurst, Lambert and Cook failed. The latter said: 'enough is enough' hence the Demolition Job. Shame it was only one good thing he did for the club. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:31 - Dec 27 with 2019 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:17 - Dec 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
Pop quiz Mach...what tends to happen to players the further into their 30s they get? How much propulsive force did you expect a 35-year-old defender and 34-year-old defensive midfielder to instil into a team that had a frontline of Ellis Harrison and Kayden Jackson? |
So were they free of their professional duties and entitled to leech off the club?
Derby County last season had even older players in Jagielka and Davies plus loads of inexperienced, young players. They could have done Ipswich 2018/19 and downed the tools, eh? They didn't and their fight against relegation was very commendable. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 21:35]
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:31 - Dec 27 with 2023 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:28 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Yes. Hurst and his recruitment turned out to be catastrophic. Moreover there was no chemistry between him and players. That doesn't mean it was all his fault what happened. Just because he may have been a d1ckhead to them isn't an excuse for them having not performed.
They tried everything to get him sacked. Do you remember that abject defeat 0-2 to Middlesbrough on Tuesday night? Particularly their second goal and set-up by Chambers. Do you genuinely think it was a 'mistake'? Looked more like a sabotage one.
So they got Hurst sacked and the first game following his departure was against Milwall away. Most of the players in our opening line-up were 'proper blokes', ITFC homegrown products. Only two of these starters were Hursts lower league signings. We also had an Ipswich man in charge (temporary one in Klug). Lambert was in the stands. So Hurst left, new era and there ought to have been some positive elements in our display . How did it end? Horrific 0-3 defeat and Millwall fans had been saying that Ipswich team was the worst one ever in the Championship to have visited their place.
Nothing really changed following Lamberts arrival. No fight, no effort in the subsequent months. The players weren't bothered. People for some reason keep fawning over them.
It was all so clear and visible yet Skuse had a temerity to insult fans with the interview like this. He'd truly shine in all his interviews.
And https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/21446225.we-know-havent-got-eternity-pick-points---
“You won’t find a more honest group of lads than what we’ve got here,” he added.
“We’re up for the fight and we can only keep going but we know we need to start picking up points'
They were up for the 'fight'.
Soon after that they were applauded by SBR stand for the relegation and its manner.
League One and not much changed. Players telling us about the commitment, desire in their interviews but it was hollow words. For some reason they remain free of criticism for some people and it is all managers fault.
As we know Evans was the main problem and reason of our decline but the players were equally a big one too. Player-power was a real problem at the club and no wonder that Hurst, Lambert and Cook failed. The latter said: 'enough is enough' hence the Demolition Job. Shame it was only one good thing he did for the club. |
You still haven't answered why Cook failed even more badly with his own players under GameChanger. Your premise is lacking evidence. | |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:33 - Dec 27 with 2010 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:31 - Dec 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You still haven't answered why Cook failed even more badly with his own players under GameChanger. Your premise is lacking evidence. |
I'm not excusing him for failing with his own players. However if the players whom he kicked out of the club had performed the Demolition Job might not have taken a place. Instead of 16 new players it might have been 7-8 new arrivals and that transition would have been smoother. We'll never know. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:36 - Dec 27 with 2001 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:31 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
So were they free of their professional duties and entitled to leech off the club?
Derby County last season had even older players in Jagielka and Davies plus loads of inexperienced, young players. They could have done Ipswich 2018/19 and downed the tools, eh? They didn't and their fight against relegation was very commendable. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 21:35]
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"Particularly their second goal and set-up by Chambers. Do you genuinely think it was a 'mistake'? Looked more like a sabotage one."
I think I'll nope out at this point. You're a troll. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:38 - Dec 27 with 1990 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:36 - Dec 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
"Particularly their second goal and set-up by Chambers. Do you genuinely think it was a 'mistake'? Looked more like a sabotage one."
I think I'll nope out at this point. You're a troll. |
Nothing to say then re my comparisons with Derby team from last season? You don't know what to say then, poor you.
Sleep well. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 21:46]
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:46 - Dec 27 with 1956 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:33 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
I'm not excusing him for failing with his own players. However if the players whom he kicked out of the club had performed the Demolition Job might not have taken a place. Instead of 16 new players it might have been 7-8 new arrivals and that transition would have been smoother. We'll never know. |
And yet the players downing tools did better for him than the new ones who have never done.
Please do explain your logic!
It/s a simple question: Did our current players also down tools for Cook and, if so, why shouldn't they be cleared out too? Or did the previous players never down tools and the idea they did is entirely in your imagination? | |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:51 - Dec 27 with 1938 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:46 - Dec 27 by Nthsuffolkblue |
And yet the players downing tools did better for him than the new ones who have never done.
Please do explain your logic!
It/s a simple question: Did our current players also down tools for Cook and, if so, why shouldn't they be cleared out too? Or did the previous players never down tools and the idea they did is entirely in your imagination? |
'yet the players downing tools did better for him than the new ones who have never done'
Better? By how? By losing 0-3 to Northampton, 0-3 to Wimbledon, 0-2 to Fleetwood etc etc.
Your logic really needs explaining. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:54 - Dec 27 with 1912 views | ringwoodblue |
Any manager can buy decent players but a good manager is someone who can coach, motivate and improve those players and mould them into a team. All the things that McKenna is doing very well but Cookie obviously couldn’t do.
Cookie is part of the old school of football management, a dying breed like Neil Warnock, John Coleman and Steve Evans gradually being replaced by younger modern managers like McKenna, Manning and Schumacher. |  |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:55 - Dec 27 with 1898 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:38 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Nothing to say then re my comparisons with Derby team from last season? You don't know what to say then, poor you.
Sleep well. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 21:46]
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I couldn't really give a toss about Derby's team from last season. I've got no idea what they were doing. I'm an Ipswich fan. I was watching Ipswich.
Where your points (such that they are) concern Ipswich I know exactly what to say, but you're thick enough to speculate that Luke Chambers was deliberately sabotaging results, so I can be pretty confident you wouldn't understand it. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:57 - Dec 27 with 1878 views | J2BLUE |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:54 - Dec 27 by ringwoodblue |
Any manager can buy decent players but a good manager is someone who can coach, motivate and improve those players and mould them into a team. All the things that McKenna is doing very well but Cookie obviously couldn’t do.
Cookie is part of the old school of football management, a dying breed like Neil Warnock, John Coleman and Steve Evans gradually being replaced by younger modern managers like McKenna, Manning and Schumacher. |
Chesterfield are third. Bit early to be writing Cook off.
No argument that he wasn't great here. Many on here (not all) did support the demolition man thing at the time though and I include myself in that. Hindsight is a great thing. |  |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 22:07 - Dec 27 with 1829 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:55 - Dec 27 by FoghornGleghorn |
I couldn't really give a toss about Derby's team from last season. I've got no idea what they were doing. I'm an Ipswich fan. I was watching Ipswich.
Where your points (such that they are) concern Ipswich I know exactly what to say, but you're thick enough to speculate that Luke Chambers was deliberately sabotaging results, so I can be pretty confident you wouldn't understand it. |
If you were watching Ipswich you would have spotted lack of effort and desire from them for the three managers. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 22:16 - Dec 27 with 1797 views | itfcjoe |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 20:09 - Dec 27 by Pique |
Perfectly adequate back up in league 1 isn't what you expect to get for £300k and £5k a week though - he's probably within the top 5 highest paid keepers in the league.
True, but we are where we are. Personally I quite like the fact that for some cup games and if (God forbid) Walton gets injured we have experienced backup, even if we did pay over the odds for it. Hladky has been a disappointing signing, but lemonade from lemons and all that. |
Yeh, whilst we are in a position to do it for second half of season he’ll have to sit on the bench and wait in case worst happens even if he doesn’t want to do that. He’s no doubt itching to get away and start again somewhere |  |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 22:17 - Dec 27 with 1794 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:51 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'yet the players downing tools did better for him than the new ones who have never done'
Better? By how? By losing 0-3 to Northampton, 0-3 to Wimbledon, 0-2 to Fleetwood etc etc.
Your logic really needs explaining. |
By finishing 9th in the league instead of 11th.
Didn't you notice Bolton (H) 2-5, Rotherham 0-2, Barrow 0-0, Newport (H) 0-1, West Ham U18s (H) 1-2, etc?
The point is that it was worse under Cook even after he had done his demolition job.
But we are going in circles. You are determined Cook wasn't to blame and Chambers, etc were so I will give up now. | |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 22:41 - Dec 27 with 1728 views | textbackup |
I still dont think we are where we are today if KMc was in from the start without PC having a chance to build part of that squad. Some of them only came for him.
KMc knows what to do with them, where as he didnt |  |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 23:26 - Dec 27 with 1626 views | Churchman |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 22:41 - Dec 27 by textbackup |
I still dont think we are where we are today if KMc was in from the start without PC having a chance to build part of that squad. Some of them only came for him.
KMc knows what to do with them, where as he didnt |
Most of the players would be different if KM had been in at start and I am sure he wouldn’t have gone about it in the same was as Cook. Who knows what the outcome would have been.
Of course, the club was rotten to the core (every aspect - see Lee, Dyer’s interviews 2021 and others) when Cook arrived so there is no way on earth KM would have come here at that time. Assuming he had pitched up with Ashton in June 21, without any structure to the club I suspect we would have been scrambling around a bit but there would have been no bomb squad. More evolution than revolution, but that’s a total guess on my part.
The team now reflects the club. It is organised. The people in both appear disciplined, motivated and all heading in the same direction. The transformation of every aspect of my club in just 18 months is amazing.
People outside haven’t noticed it because we are an L1 irrelevance and been rubbish for years. Even the Sheffield W message board contributors largely dismiss us as a little club with a small squad/team that will fade. Their ‘big club’ entitlement could be their undoing.
Regardless, keep this work going and who knows how far it’ll take us. I genuinely think we will get through the championship a lot quicker than it’s taking us to get out of the quicksand league one. [Post edited 27 Dec 2022 23:27]
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 23:33 - Dec 27 with 1612 views | pointofblue |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 21:28 - Dec 27 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Yes. Hurst and his recruitment turned out to be catastrophic. Moreover there was no chemistry between him and players. That doesn't mean it was all his fault what happened. Just because he may have been a d1ckhead to them isn't an excuse for them having not performed.
They tried everything to get him sacked. Do you remember that abject defeat 0-2 to Middlesbrough on Tuesday night? Particularly their second goal and set-up by Chambers. Do you genuinely think it was a 'mistake'? Looked more like a sabotage one.
So they got Hurst sacked and the first game following his departure was against Milwall away. Most of the players in our opening line-up were 'proper blokes', ITFC homegrown products. Only two of these starters were Hursts lower league signings. We also had an Ipswich man in charge (temporary one in Klug). Lambert was in the stands. So Hurst left, new era and there ought to have been some positive elements in our display . How did it end? Horrific 0-3 defeat and Millwall fans had been saying that Ipswich team was the worst one ever in the Championship to have visited their place.
Nothing really changed following Lamberts arrival. No fight, no effort in the subsequent months. The players weren't bothered. People for some reason keep fawning over them.
It was all so clear and visible yet Skuse had a temerity to insult fans with the interview like this. He'd truly shine in all his interviews.
And https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/21446225.we-know-havent-got-eternity-pick-points---
“You won’t find a more honest group of lads than what we’ve got here,” he added.
“We’re up for the fight and we can only keep going but we know we need to start picking up points'
They were up for the 'fight'.
Soon after that they were applauded by SBR stand for the relegation and its manner.
League One and not much changed. Players telling us about the commitment, desire in their interviews but it was hollow words. For some reason they remain free of criticism for some people and it is all managers fault.
As we know Evans was the main problem and reason of our decline but the players were equally a big one too. Player-power was a real problem at the club and no wonder that Hurst, Lambert and Cook failed. The latter said: 'enough is enough' hence the Demolition Job. Shame it was only one good thing he did for the club. |
That old squad went eleven games unbeaten in League One - something we haven't even managed under McKenna to date. Even after losing against Accrington and Rotherham we won the next two before the wheels started to come off.
The issue wasn't effort, it was lack of mental fortitude. We only brought in six outfield players over that summer (Norwood, Wilson, Vincent-Young, Keane, Garbutt and Georgiou) so the squad mostly contained those who had suffered defeat after defeat the season before. When the going got tough we had no one like Morsy to offer a comforting arm or a slap across the back of the head. We were perhaps too nice all round. The balance of the squad was wrong.
As individuals, I don't think any players deliberately downed tools but I do think they lost confidence, to the point that any setback became too much to handle. | |
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| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 23:55 - Dec 27 with 1602 views | JimInGreensboro |
Glad we don’t have to listen to The Exorcistic post-game interviews, regardless. | | | |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 00:56 - Dec 28 with 1553 views | Churchman |
| Say what you want about Paul Cook on 23:33 - Dec 27 by pointofblue |
That old squad went eleven games unbeaten in League One - something we haven't even managed under McKenna to date. Even after losing against Accrington and Rotherham we won the next two before the wheels started to come off.
The issue wasn't effort, it was lack of mental fortitude. We only brought in six outfield players over that summer (Norwood, Wilson, Vincent-Young, Keane, Garbutt and Georgiou) so the squad mostly contained those who had suffered defeat after defeat the season before. When the going got tough we had no one like Morsy to offer a comforting arm or a slap across the back of the head. We were perhaps too nice all round. The balance of the squad was wrong.
As individuals, I don't think any players deliberately downed tools but I do think they lost confidence, to the point that any setback became too much to handle. |
I’m sure some of the players gave 100% from 23 Nov on but all of them? Probably. Only they know. Were they physically and mentally fit enough? Well, despite the good first 13 games from 15, as you rightly pointed out, the next 21 were less wheels coming off and more all four disappearing like hubcaps in Liverpool.
The record was W4, D7, L10. We were beaten with ease far too often including a good hiding at Lincoln and at home by P’Boro. We lost the last five games before the season was curtailed and were dreadful. We would have survived because of our good start, but we were getting poorer by the game. | | | |
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