| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre 09:43 - Jan 18 with 8886 views | textbackup |
in the middle of the afternoon shocks me, but having walked through the town once or twice over the xmas period, it really doesnt surprise me |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:26 - Jan 18 with 6600 views | allezlesbleus |
It's horrible to say, but as soon as I read early yesterday evening about that part of the street being cordoned off, I said that I'd put money on it being a youngster who had been stabbed. Tragic to hear that yet another young life has been wasted and another family / more families lives being torn apart.
The town centre really has a dangerous feel to it, even in the middle of the day (and I'm a middle aged bloke). It must feel really intimidating to certain sections of the community, especially ladies and the elderly. |  | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:35 - Jan 18 with 6540 views | itfcjoe |
I don't see it in town, it's run down in parts but doesn't feel edgy at all in the actual centre.
It's more when you get to Norwich Road or bottom of Spring Road where it is loads of blokes hanging round that is worse.
This will, absolutely no doubt, be gangs from the estates spilling into town rather than the usual people that hang around there all day.
Is it 'J-Block' vs 'Neno' or whatever they are called |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:53 - Jan 18 with 6411 views | textbackup |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:35 - Jan 18 by itfcjoe |
I don't see it in town, it's run down in parts but doesn't feel edgy at all in the actual centre.
It's more when you get to Norwich Road or bottom of Spring Road where it is loads of blokes hanging round that is worse.
This will, absolutely no doubt, be gangs from the estates spilling into town rather than the usual people that hang around there all day.
Is it 'J-Block' vs 'Neno' or whatever they are called |
J-Block are round the westgate ward social club area i think. | |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:15 - Jan 18 with 6286 views | itfcjoe |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:53 - Jan 18 by textbackup |
J-Block are round the westgate ward social club area i think. |
Yeh, that Jubilee Park near the football ground - I used to walk in that way when we parked at the Chev club when I was young | |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:17 - Jan 18 with 6258 views | textbackup |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:15 - Jan 18 by itfcjoe |
Yeh, that Jubilee Park near the football ground - I used to walk in that way when we parked at the Chev club when I was young |
i spent many hours of my youth playing on that park when the adults were getting beered up before home games!
sad to see the state its all got into | |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:27 - Jan 18 with 6122 views | clive_baker |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:35 - Jan 18 by itfcjoe |
I don't see it in town, it's run down in parts but doesn't feel edgy at all in the actual centre.
It's more when you get to Norwich Road or bottom of Spring Road where it is loads of blokes hanging round that is worse.
This will, absolutely no doubt, be gangs from the estates spilling into town rather than the usual people that hang around there all day.
Is it 'J-Block' vs 'Neno' or whatever they are called |
I normally cut up Portman Rd to Norwich Rd after games, there's always loads of people milling outside that Bridal shop drinking tinnies. Can't say I've ever seen them causing trouble tbh but it seems to be a growing number every time I walk past. |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:28 - Jan 18 with 6104 views | Freddies_Ears |
I simply don't feel safe in Ipswich any more. Unless I am driving or can bus point-to-point, I rarely go in. In the last week, there was a daylight street robbery in Kesgrave and a gang of youths reported with a knife around Woodbridge Road East, both near where I live. Now, yet another town centre daytime stabbing.
Luckily, I can shop out of town or online, and my regular pub has a bus stop outside... |  | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:37 - Jan 18 with 6034 views | Big_Jase |
I assume you mean the large groups of men hanging around the town centre? Whilst the big groups can feel intimidating, it won't be them that are causing the stabbings etc. Its targeted attacks from rival gangs/drug dealers.
I would argue the big groups are more anti social (street drinking, littering), they clearly need places to go, as without somewhere to go those anti social behaviours will continue in the high street.
I have never felt in danger of a violent crime in the town centre, as this is very rarely a random occurrence, nearly all violent attacks are targeted. |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:46 - Jan 18 with 5946 views | MattinLondon |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:28 - Jan 18 by Freddies_Ears |
I simply don't feel safe in Ipswich any more. Unless I am driving or can bus point-to-point, I rarely go in. In the last week, there was a daylight street robbery in Kesgrave and a gang of youths reported with a knife around Woodbridge Road East, both near where I live. Now, yet another town centre daytime stabbing.
Luckily, I can shop out of town or online, and my regular pub has a bus stop outside... |
I came back to Ipswich over the Christmas period and went into the town centre on a few occasions but didn’t notice anything sinister or even threatening.
According to my parents Ipswich is not what it was like 20 odd years ago when it was safe. Strangely 20 odd years ago when I used to regularly go to pubs and Hollywoods (which involved walking home drunk by myself) they used to tell me then to be careful - it wasn’t safe like how it was 20 years prior to that. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 12:47]
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:51 - Jan 18 with 5880 views | Illinoisblue |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:37 - Jan 18 by Big_Jase |
I assume you mean the large groups of men hanging around the town centre? Whilst the big groups can feel intimidating, it won't be them that are causing the stabbings etc. Its targeted attacks from rival gangs/drug dealers.
I would argue the big groups are more anti social (street drinking, littering), they clearly need places to go, as without somewhere to go those anti social behaviours will continue in the high street.
I have never felt in danger of a violent crime in the town centre, as this is very rarely a random occurrence, nearly all violent attacks are targeted. |
“Nearly all violent attacks are targeted”. Is that really true? |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:03 - Jan 18 with 5797 views | DJR |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:51 - Jan 18 by Illinoisblue |
“Nearly all violent attacks are targeted”. Is that really true? |
I think it probably isn't as most violent incidents in public probably involve young (and perhaps not so young) men in the evening who've had too much to drink. But that has always been the case, because I can remember fights frequently breaking out in the late 70s in one of the pubs near the Corn Exchange.
I think the real danger of the media highlighting violent crime is that people become over-fearful, and think that they will be the victim of a violent attack in daylight hours when it is highly unlikely that will be the case for the average person.
EDIT: My post isn't intended to downplay the fear of women about rape etc, which I think is justified. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 13:09]
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:18 - Jan 18 with 5660 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unfortunately is the same in large town and city centres countrywide- certainly not unique to Ipswich. If only there was some link with the number of police being slashed. Mind you according to some posters preventative policing is not a thing…utter rubbish of course and police on the beat provide a visible deterrent. | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:26 - Jan 18 with 5583 views | Bluefields |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 11:35 - Jan 18 by itfcjoe |
I don't see it in town, it's run down in parts but doesn't feel edgy at all in the actual centre.
It's more when you get to Norwich Road or bottom of Spring Road where it is loads of blokes hanging round that is worse.
This will, absolutely no doubt, be gangs from the estates spilling into town rather than the usual people that hang around there all day.
Is it 'J-Block' vs 'Neno' or whatever they are called |
The town centre is horrible imo. Ive lived here for 35 years and always felt safe in town until about 5 years ago. Now Norwich Road i have no issue with at all. | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:32 - Jan 18 with 5470 views | monkeymagic |
It might be of small consolation/ comfort to know that Colchester feels much scarier. I certainly wouldn’t say Ipswich is in anyway a problem area versus other Towns of similar size. In fact, Ipswich still strikes me a reassuringly sedate and friendly compared to large swathes of the Country. | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:36 - Jan 18 with 5421 views | BlueBadger |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:32 - Jan 18 by monkeymagic |
It might be of small consolation/ comfort to know that Colchester feels much scarier. I certainly wouldn’t say Ipswich is in anyway a problem area versus other Towns of similar size. In fact, Ipswich still strikes me a reassuringly sedate and friendly compared to large swathes of the Country. |
Colchester has the combination of local loons, visiting loons from Clacton and Sudbury with squaddies added into the mix as well.
I stopped going out in Colchester of a Saturday night when I was about 19. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 13:37]
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:41 - Jan 18 with 5368 views | hype313 |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:46 - Jan 18 by MattinLondon |
I came back to Ipswich over the Christmas period and went into the town centre on a few occasions but didn’t notice anything sinister or even threatening.
According to my parents Ipswich is not what it was like 20 odd years ago when it was safe. Strangely 20 odd years ago when I used to regularly go to pubs and Hollywoods (which involved walking home drunk by myself) they used to tell me then to be careful - it wasn’t safe like how it was 20 years prior to that. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 12:47]
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Poor kid who got stabbed, that is horrific and also for the poor souls that had to witness it.
The only time I go into town now is to walk through it to get to PR, apart from that I have no need or desire to.
Shame, but it's no different to every other town and city up and down the country that doesn't have any DNA now online shopping is available. They all seem to be in flux about what to do, and the answer of more shops just isn't viable anymore. |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:42 - Jan 18 with 5353 views | Big_Jase |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:51 - Jan 18 by Illinoisblue |
“Nearly all violent attacks are targeted”. Is that really true? |
Sorry I should have worded that better, the violent attacks such as stabbings are very much targeted attacks between people who are known to each other. | |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 14:20 - Jan 18 with 5172 views | GeoffSentence |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 12:46 - Jan 18 by MattinLondon |
I came back to Ipswich over the Christmas period and went into the town centre on a few occasions but didn’t notice anything sinister or even threatening.
According to my parents Ipswich is not what it was like 20 odd years ago when it was safe. Strangely 20 odd years ago when I used to regularly go to pubs and Hollywoods (which involved walking home drunk by myself) they used to tell me then to be careful - it wasn’t safe like how it was 20 years prior to that. [Post edited 18 Jan 2023 12:47]
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"Twenty years ago when it was safe" -- not quite 20 years ago, but Steve Wright was going on his trail of murder 17 years ago now. What's more whilst that was going on there was also a gang shooting at Hollywoods or Zest or whatever it was called at the time.
So, yeah, your parents 20 year reference point is probably a little on the vague side. |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 14:37 - Jan 18 with 5082 views | Illinoisblue |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:42 - Jan 18 by Big_Jase |
Sorry I should have worded that better, the violent attacks such as stabbings are very much targeted attacks between people who are known to each other. |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 15:18 - Jan 18 with 4890 views | ITFCWATP |
Having been following town for over 20 years travelling from Luton, I can happily tell you that you have nothing to worry about in the town centre if you're not looking for it. Compared to where I'm from/live it's a nice town with good people.
I've seen other areas of ipswich (Nacton/Norwich Road) and of course its a typical council estate area - however you could still walk through with no dramas. They need to send these kids to spend a day in deprived areas e.g Marsh Farm or Bury Park for a couple of nights. | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 17:45 - Jan 18 with 4417 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 15:18 - Jan 18 by ITFCWATP |
Having been following town for over 20 years travelling from Luton, I can happily tell you that you have nothing to worry about in the town centre if you're not looking for it. Compared to where I'm from/live it's a nice town with good people.
I've seen other areas of ipswich (Nacton/Norwich Road) and of course its a typical council estate area - however you could still walk through with no dramas. They need to send these kids to spend a day in deprived areas e.g Marsh Farm or Bury Park for a couple of nights. |
I was born in Luton, grew up in Hounslow before being transferred to a cr4p little village in Suffolk and then spent all of my adult life in Ipswich.
Every place I have lived in has quite frankly been utter sh1te. |  |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 18:17 - Jan 18 with 4253 views | HARRY10 |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:18 - Jan 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unfortunately is the same in large town and city centres countrywide- certainly not unique to Ipswich. If only there was some link with the number of police being slashed. Mind you according to some posters preventative policing is not a thing…utter rubbish of course and police on the beat provide a visible deterrent. |
And therein lies one (I say one) of the ptroblems. Folk peddling Daily Mails style rightie nonsense.
talk to any copper, look at what is happening elsewhere, not just the UK but worldwide.
This idiot idea of some coppeer strolling around the town centre will prevent anything is as stupid as those peddling it
Assume there were enough coppers to be placed around 50 yards apart in every known trouble spot around town. Woyld that prevent anything / Of course not. The problem would simply be shifted elsewhere. I await rightie telling me that fire brigade memenbers should not remain close to their vehicles but patrol areas where they had previously been a fire - so as to prevent another one.
Meanwhile back to reality
Much of the trouble is down to drugs, and the carrying of knives. there amount of monet that can be made, as opposed to a minimum wage job, induces youngsters into drug dealing. Being young most will be active at the street level.
Don't work in a gang or carry a knive and you will not be selling for long. Others who do will see to that.
You can arrest as many as you like, but as with heroin others users will simply take over. There the need is an addiction. With coke it is the temptation of what seems easy money.
It is not a proble confined to Ipswich, or other UK towns. It is prevelant where quick money is a lure, but otherwise coke is boight at every level (see Harry Winger).
There is no easy answer despite the righties guff about a war on drugs "string em all up" etc, You can oerhaps sort the recreational users from the addicts, but the latter will remain even if you stop the former. And anyone condemning an addict and is a smoker should consider how long they have managed to go without a smoke.
The laws on drugs need a massive over haul, but will not until we end this stupid culture of bobbies on the beat, war on drugs, just say no and other similar outdated guff. It needs those with experience to evaluate and decide, just as the police do with policing. | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 18:28 - Jan 18 with 4189 views | GeoffSentence |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 13:18 - Jan 18 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Unfortunately is the same in large town and city centres countrywide- certainly not unique to Ipswich. If only there was some link with the number of police being slashed. Mind you according to some posters preventative policing is not a thing…utter rubbish of course and police on the beat provide a visible deterrent. |
It even happens in gentile market towns like Bury St Edmunds. | |
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| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 19:11 - Jan 18 with 3995 views | allezlesbleus |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 17:45 - Jan 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I was born in Luton, grew up in Hounslow before being transferred to a cr4p little village in Suffolk and then spent all of my adult life in Ipswich.
Every place I have lived in has quite frankly been utter sh1te. |
Stop dragging everywhere down then LL, or just move permanently to Norwich!!! | | | |
| I'd like to say a stabbing in Ipswich town centre on 09:52 - Jan 19 with 3122 views | MalcolmMeatballHead |
My thoughts are with the loved ones of that poor kid. What a violent, nasty world we live in |  | | |
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