| Time for Walton to take a rest 09:16 - Jan 22 with 6466 views | GlasgowBlue |
Last season he made game saving/winning saves. Wycombe away springs to mind. There were countless other occasions where his saves were worth as many points to us as the goals we scored with the other end.
I can’t think of one this season. Certainly not since the beginning of the season. People highlight the Charlton game where his indecision cost us all three points and his form has been poor since. But he was shaky in the game before against Port Vale.
Walton shouldn’t be undropable. Time to give Hladky a chance imo. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:42 - Jan 22 with 4048 views | backwaywhen |
As I mentioned in another post , his not too confident with the abysmal defending going on in front of him at present, he doesn’t become a bad keeper overnight, and personally think we should stick with him . |  | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:00 - Jan 22 with 4017 views | Sharkey |
Presumably Hladky will play against Burnley. If he exudes confidence and plays a blinder, then I can't see why he'd then be dropped. |  | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:10 - Jan 22 with 3979 views | Stewart27 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:42 - Jan 22 by backwaywhen |
As I mentioned in another post , his not too confident with the abysmal defending going on in front of him at present, he doesn’t become a bad keeper overnight, and personally think we should stick with him . |
But good defenders can become bad defenders overnight?
Walton has to take responsibility too. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:15 - Jan 22 with 3963 views | tractorboy1978 |
I struggle to remember any points Walton has saved us this season. I don't think he's been bad but he hasn't been anywhere near the levels he set last season when he made game changing saves he perhaps had no right to. That seems to be what Cooper is doing at Plymouth this season.
My issue is that Hladky was absolute turd last season - hideously bad. Walton is still a far superior keeper even if he is 'out of form'. We need him to play through it and find his best again. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:26 - Jan 22 with 3925 views | Chrisd |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:10 - Jan 22 by Stewart27 |
But good defenders can become bad defenders overnight?
Walton has to take responsibility too. |
Haven't they all got to take responsibility and do their jobs better? | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:15 - Jan 22 with 3811 views | cressi |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:26 - Jan 22 by Chrisd |
Haven't they all got to take responsibility and do their jobs better? |
V Plymouth Jesus ball at his feet he was horrendous like a dart player who couldn't let go of the darts | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:57 - Jan 22 with 3716 views | itfcjoe |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:15 - Jan 22 by tractorboy1978 |
I struggle to remember any points Walton has saved us this season. I don't think he's been bad but he hasn't been anywhere near the levels he set last season when he made game changing saves he perhaps had no right to. That seems to be what Cooper is doing at Plymouth this season.
My issue is that Hladky was absolute turd last season - hideously bad. Walton is still a far superior keeper even if he is 'out of form'. We need him to play through it and find his best again. |
I think the problem with Walton is that he has just been bang average and you need more than that from a keeper unless you are a side that is so defensive that the keeper has nothing to do which is how SW play.
6 or 7 out of 10 every week when the difference between win and draw, and draw and loss, is him having the odd 8 or 9 and I can’t remember the last time he did that |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:01 - Jan 22 with 3689 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:57 - Jan 22 by itfcjoe |
I think the problem with Walton is that he has just been bang average and you need more than that from a keeper unless you are a side that is so defensive that the keeper has nothing to do which is how SW play.
6 or 7 out of 10 every week when the difference between win and draw, and draw and loss, is him having the odd 8 or 9 and I can’t remember the last time he did that |
Yep 6 or 7 every week is about right. There has definitely been a downturn in form.
Problem is that Hladky is not a keeper that can play the same role that Walton has been employed for, he tends to kick long much more often.
Maybe that would be no bad thing at the moment? |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:02 - Jan 22 with 3675 views | pointofblue |
It's funny how the memory works - to this day I would swear that Port Vale was the midweek after Charlton!
I wouldn't mind seeing Hladky in goal on Tuesday. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:13 - Jan 22 with 3629 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:57 - Jan 22 by itfcjoe |
I think the problem with Walton is that he has just been bang average and you need more than that from a keeper unless you are a side that is so defensive that the keeper has nothing to do which is how SW play.
6 or 7 out of 10 every week when the difference between win and draw, and draw and loss, is him having the odd 8 or 9 and I can’t remember the last time he did that |
Don't disagree but Hladky was abysmal last season and isn't a viable alternative option for me. I don't think Hladky has made anything other than a very routine save the entire time he's been here. And he's weak as piss dealing with balls into our box. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:20 - Jan 22 with 3596 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:13 - Jan 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Don't disagree but Hladky was abysmal last season and isn't a viable alternative option for me. I don't think Hladky has made anything other than a very routine save the entire time he's been here. And he's weak as piss dealing with balls into our box. |
Hladky hasn’t let us down when he’s been called upon since Walton arrived. If memory serves, he played a league game last season under McKenna when Walton was injured and kept a clean sheet. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 14:52]
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:25 - Jan 22 with 3579 views | itfcjoe |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:13 - Jan 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Don't disagree but Hladky was abysmal last season and isn't a viable alternative option for me. I don't think Hladky has made anything other than a very routine save the entire time he's been here. And he's weak as piss dealing with balls into our box. |
I wouldn’t be changing keepers, because it is so final and so potentially damaging, but CW needs to improve and fast | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:31 - Jan 22 with 3548 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:20 - Jan 22 by GlasgowBlue |
Hladky hasn’t let us down when he’s been called upon since Walton arrived. If memory serves, he played a league game last season under McKenna when Walton was injured and kept a clean sheet. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 14:52]
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That's not really saying a lot though. Other than that league game he's played a few cup games against lower league opposition where he's barely been tested at all. Even in the Rotherham game he was largely a spectator. He's a significantly worse keeper than Walton and the fact he's not been given a chance this season when Walton has been a bit out of form tells you McKenna knows that as well.
He had an absolute mare in the game against Arsenal U21s last season after Walton joined as well.
Edit - Cambridge away as well! [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 14:34]
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:34 - Jan 22 with 3517 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:25 - Jan 22 by itfcjoe |
I wouldn’t be changing keepers, because it is so final and so potentially damaging, but CW needs to improve and fast |
Can't just stick with something that's clearly broken Joe.
He's been lower end of saves/shots all season. His job is to save shots. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:39 - Jan 22 with 3486 views | Ely_Blue |
Good to see a reasoned post with some two sided opinions of why he needs a rest rather than a Frimmers style flounce about “fans favourites” needing a rest |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:45 - Jan 22 with 3435 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:39 - Jan 22 by Ely_Blue |
Good to see a reasoned post with some two sided opinions of why he needs a rest rather than a Frimmers style flounce about “fans favourites” needing a rest |
Probably be different if you did your usual with the op.
See how threads can be different if you try to discuss things rather than being personal.
Lesson for you... | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:47 - Jan 22 with 3428 views | Ely_Blue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:45 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Probably be different if you did your usual with the op.
See how threads can be different if you try to discuss things rather than being personal.
Lesson for you... |
The difference is the OP is being reasoned with his points rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater and having a massive flounce with no real substance to it.
See what happens when someone posts something of substance rather than having a massive blub when everyone doesn’t agree with them
Lesson there for you……. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:53 - Jan 22 with 3379 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:47 - Jan 22 by Ely_Blue |
The difference is the OP is being reasoned with his points rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater and having a massive flounce with no real substance to it.
See what happens when someone posts something of substance rather than having a massive blub when everyone doesn’t agree with them
Lesson there for you……. |
No one in that thread including yourself have countered it to be able to discuss it.
I also as you mention put substance in the OP with explaining why, the point about %saves/shots Is key and I think fair.
So no. You admitted doing it and we all know now. You play the poster. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:07 - Jan 22 with 3346 views | Sixto6 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:53 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
No one in that thread including yourself have countered it to be able to discuss it.
I also as you mention put substance in the OP with explaining why, the point about %saves/shots Is key and I think fair.
So no. You admitted doing it and we all know now. You play the poster. |
I don’t think that Walton has been as bad as being made out, I have a lot more confidence in him than any keeper we had in a few years !
The goals we’ve conceded lately have been either great strikes or deflections into the top corners.
Time for a bit of team spirit between players and fans to get us through this tough patch and back to winning ways ! |  | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:08 - Jan 22 with 3343 views | Ely_Blue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:53 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
No one in that thread including yourself have countered it to be able to discuss it.
I also as you mention put substance in the OP with explaining why, the point about %saves/shots Is key and I think fair.
So no. You admitted doing it and we all know now. You play the poster. |
It shouldn’t be up to other people in your excuse for a dig at “fans favourites” to come back with data, as you’re the one calling out players like Burns (4 goals in 6 which I believe was pointed out to you) then you need to justify why rather than a usual shooting from the hip playground rant and chucking your toys out of the pram.
This post here is a perfect example by the OP of a reasoning as to why Walton needs a rest rather than antagonising from the start with an op like yours designed deliberately to get reactions by saying “fans favourites” | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:14 - Jan 22 with 3307 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:08 - Jan 22 by Ely_Blue |
It shouldn’t be up to other people in your excuse for a dig at “fans favourites” to come back with data, as you’re the one calling out players like Burns (4 goals in 6 which I believe was pointed out to you) then you need to justify why rather than a usual shooting from the hip playground rant and chucking your toys out of the pram.
This post here is a perfect example by the OP of a reasoning as to why Walton needs a rest rather than antagonising from the start with an op like yours designed deliberately to get reactions by saying “fans favourites” |
I didn't say I expect people to come back with data. I was saying I explained my reason for the Walton piece by referring to his shot/save %. Isn't that what you've asked before.. a bit more context to a view not just I don't like Walton the end..
With Burns its difficult. He has scored goals. But even he himself admitted he hasnt been playing well. That's from himself.
So again the reason for the Fan favourite title. Isn't a dig. It's because we've brought in new players...but the ones left appear to be a problem. And yes they are fan favourites. It's just how it is. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:33 - Jan 22 with 3239 views | Ely_Blue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:14 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't say I expect people to come back with data. I was saying I explained my reason for the Walton piece by referring to his shot/save %. Isn't that what you've asked before.. a bit more context to a view not just I don't like Walton the end..
With Burns its difficult. He has scored goals. But even he himself admitted he hasnt been playing well. That's from himself.
So again the reason for the Fan favourite title. Isn't a dig. It's because we've brought in new players...but the ones left appear to be a problem. And yes they are fan favourites. It's just how it is. |
Give. It. Up | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:33 - Jan 22 with 3244 views | itfcjoe |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:14 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
I didn't say I expect people to come back with data. I was saying I explained my reason for the Walton piece by referring to his shot/save %. Isn't that what you've asked before.. a bit more context to a view not just I don't like Walton the end..
With Burns its difficult. He has scored goals. But even he himself admitted he hasnt been playing well. That's from himself.
So again the reason for the Fan favourite title. Isn't a dig. It's because we've brought in new players...but the ones left appear to be a problem. And yes they are fan favourites. It's just how it is. |
You said something like it is the fault of fans favourites and listed about 8 players, first off being Morsy and claimed he’s pulling out of 50/50 balls
That some points in there were right is like picking sweetcorn out of a turd | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:51 - Jan 22 with 3189 views | OldFart71 |
One of the problems is that whatever position a player plays if he not under any threat from being dropped even though two teams can be picked from our squad then where's the point in backup. I can't for the life of me understand why players can't play two or three games in a week. When the likes of the Micky Mills, George Burley etc era played Sir Bobby didn't keep rotating players. Not that he had the choice anyway. But a manager can get tied up with having a large squad where he wants to satisfy everyone and keep them all happy and involved. I do feel if a few who now find themselves down the pecking order needs moving on. Two things should happen Firstly McKenna needs to decide who his best eleven is. Secondly as he has a large squad, basically two or more for each position if the one's currently in the first eleven aren't performing to a certain standard, no matter who they are then their understudy should be brought in. Given a chance and if their performances are up to scratch they keep their place. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:53 - Jan 22 with 3185 views | PioneerBlue |
Not for me | |
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