| Time for Walton to take a rest 09:16 - Jan 22 with 6467 views | GlasgowBlue |
Last season he made game saving/winning saves. Wycombe away springs to mind. There were countless other occasions where his saves were worth as many points to us as the goals we scored with the other end.
I can’t think of one this season. Certainly not since the beginning of the season. People highlight the Charlton game where his indecision cost us all three points and his form has been poor since. But he was shaky in the game before against Port Vale.
Walton shouldn’t be undropable. Time to give Hladky a chance imo. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 18:10 - Jan 22 with 2315 views | Ryorry |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:51 - Jan 22 by OldFart71 |
One of the problems is that whatever position a player plays if he not under any threat from being dropped even though two teams can be picked from our squad then where's the point in backup. I can't for the life of me understand why players can't play two or three games in a week. When the likes of the Micky Mills, George Burley etc era played Sir Bobby didn't keep rotating players. Not that he had the choice anyway. But a manager can get tied up with having a large squad where he wants to satisfy everyone and keep them all happy and involved. I do feel if a few who now find themselves down the pecking order needs moving on. Two things should happen Firstly McKenna needs to decide who his best eleven is. Secondly as he has a large squad, basically two or more for each position if the one's currently in the first eleven aren't performing to a certain standard, no matter who they are then their understudy should be brought in. Given a chance and if their performances are up to scratch they keep their place. |
Can't blame KM, MA & Gamechanger for getting insurance in, given the run of autumn injuries that we had. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 21:38 - Jan 22 with 2254 views | hoppy |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:53 - Jan 22 by PioneerBlue |
Not for me |
I assume he meant for Hladky. Didn’t know you were a keeper anyway. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 22:16 - Jan 22 with 2226 views | skinnybob72 |
My son is a mascot on Tuesday night and is looking forward to walking out with Walton, his favourite player - an absolute nap he's dropped! |  | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 23:22 - Jan 22 with 2202 views | FifeITFC |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:15 - Jan 22 by tractorboy1978 |
I struggle to remember any points Walton has saved us this season. I don't think he's been bad but he hasn't been anywhere near the levels he set last season when he made game changing saves he perhaps had no right to. That seems to be what Cooper is doing at Plymouth this season.
My issue is that Hladky was absolute turd last season - hideously bad. Walton is still a far superior keeper even if he is 'out of form'. We need him to play through it and find his best again. |
So you can be great and then play poor (Walton) but you can't play poor at the start and have any chance of playing good (Hdlaky)?
Think too many have written him off too soon, may have settled down more than and worth a chance, no? |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 23:44 - Jan 22 with 2187 views | ArchiRob |
His dribbling at Plymouth scared me but that was a one off and he looked OK on Saturday
Having seen the goals conceded I would be hard pressed to say he was at fault for any of them
There's been some very excellent/lucky looping shots that no keeper would have saved |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 07:32 - Jan 23 with 2131 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 23:22 - Jan 22 by FifeITFC |
So you can be great and then play poor (Walton) but you can't play poor at the start and have any chance of playing good (Hdlaky)?
Think too many have written him off too soon, may have settled down more than and worth a chance, no? |
I just think Walton is a miles superior keeper and we have to hope he can play his way up to last year’s standards. Other than at home to Cheltenham I can’t remember a proper clanger from him anyway. Hladky had half a dozen of them last season in his limited game time. We know he can’t command his box as well.
As Joe alluded to in this thread, changing keeper is a very big thing and not something you do lightly. It’s not like rotating/changing outfield players. If we had a play off final at Wembley tomorrow I know which keeper I’m picking 10 times out of 10. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 07:37 - Jan 23 with 2117 views | hoppy |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 07:32 - Jan 23 by tractorboy1978 |
I just think Walton is a miles superior keeper and we have to hope he can play his way up to last year’s standards. Other than at home to Cheltenham I can’t remember a proper clanger from him anyway. Hladky had half a dozen of them last season in his limited game time. We know he can’t command his box as well.
As Joe alluded to in this thread, changing keeper is a very big thing and not something you do lightly. It’s not like rotating/changing outfield players. If we had a play off final at Wembley tomorrow I know which keeper I’m picking 10 times out of 10. |
If we had a play off final tomorrow, I’d want to know how I’d slept that long, and what happened to the remainder of the season. Besides the football, I’d be a bit worried, as I also had a fair bit of work to do. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 07:52 - Jan 23 with 2081 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 23:44 - Jan 22 by ArchiRob |
His dribbling at Plymouth scared me but that was a one off and he looked OK on Saturday
Having seen the goals conceded I would be hard pressed to say he was at fault for any of them
There's been some very excellent/lucky looping shots that no keeper would have saved |
I’m not saying he was at fault for either goal. Or “at fault” for many of the goals conceded. I’m saying he isn’t making any game saving/winning saves.
A top keeper makes saves that ordinary keepers wouldn’t be “at fault” for conceding.
We wouldn’t have conceded any more goals than we have since October, had Holy been in goal. We got Walton in because he was a cut above. We signed him on a percentage because he made outstanding saves that won us games. [Post edited 23 Jan 2023 9:49]
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:05 - Jan 23 with 2013 views | CityBlue |
There has been a degree of instability in front of him recently. Fridge out Burgess in, JD injured over a series of three games. Switching LBs. Makes it difficult for a keeper when he is employed as a sweeper.
I have mentioned our lack of real experience in the back line on a number of threads and it may be that we bring in Keogh to start showing some skipper influence from the back. If he (Keogh) plays a blider vs Burnley then it may be him who then gets the nod. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:43 - Jan 23 with 1982 views | backwaywhen |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:05 - Jan 23 by CityBlue |
There has been a degree of instability in front of him recently. Fridge out Burgess in, JD injured over a series of three games. Switching LBs. Makes it difficult for a keeper when he is employed as a sweeper.
I have mentioned our lack of real experience in the back line on a number of threads and it may be that we bring in Keogh to start showing some skipper influence from the back. If he (Keogh) plays a blider vs Burnley then it may be him who then gets the nod. |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:22 - Jan 23 with 1954 views | backwaywhen |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 09:43 - Jan 23 by backwaywhen |
If you think Kroger is the answer , then make an appointment immediately ! |
Keogh …. lol | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 10:48 - Jan 23 with 1918 views | LankHenners |
It's a bit like Hladky at the start of last season - there weren't many goals that were his fault per say but everything the opposition hit seemed to go in and he wasn't counterbalancing that with good saves that denied a goal.
Having said that I think messing about switching the GK has far more risk than reward - if Hladky's not a major improvement then Walton's going to be thinking you might as well have backed me and kept me in.
Only way I see it happening is if Hladky has a stormer against Burnley and effectively plays his way in but if they rate Walton as no. 1 and leave him out there'll always be the nagging 'what if' if Hladky doesn't perform so well in league matches. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:36 - Jan 23 with 1875 views | DavoIPB |
This shouldn't even be a debate. Walton is the superior keeper across the board. Handling, footwork (he actually wasnt that bad against Plymouth in diff conditions) and shot stopping. He does seem to get beaten a bit easy from long shots. Hladly is a good reserve, that is all. | | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:44 - Jan 23 with 1853 views | RKD |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:51 - Jan 22 by OldFart71 |
One of the problems is that whatever position a player plays if he not under any threat from being dropped even though two teams can be picked from our squad then where's the point in backup. I can't for the life of me understand why players can't play two or three games in a week. When the likes of the Micky Mills, George Burley etc era played Sir Bobby didn't keep rotating players. Not that he had the choice anyway. But a manager can get tied up with having a large squad where he wants to satisfy everyone and keep them all happy and involved. I do feel if a few who now find themselves down the pecking order needs moving on. Two things should happen Firstly McKenna needs to decide who his best eleven is. Secondly as he has a large squad, basically two or more for each position if the one's currently in the first eleven aren't performing to a certain standard, no matter who they are then their understudy should be brought in. Given a chance and if their performances are up to scratch they keep their place. |
If Sir Bobby had a bigger squad to call upon and rotate, we might not have ended up throwing away the title and FA Cup due to injuries.
Moreover, our rivals are now using bigger squads whereas they were also using the same 13-16 players all season back then. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:55 - Jan 23 with 1826 views | Ryorry |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:44 - Jan 23 by RKD |
If Sir Bobby had a bigger squad to call upon and rotate, we might not have ended up throwing away the title and FA Cup due to injuries.
Moreover, our rivals are now using bigger squads whereas they were also using the same 13-16 players all season back then. |
Not to mention that years later, players revealed (iirc) they were playing through injuries with the aid of injections, resulting in severe chronic health conditions in their retirement. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 12:40 - Jan 23 with 1791 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 15:07 - Jan 22 by Sixto6 |
I don’t think that Walton has been as bad as being made out, I have a lot more confidence in him than any keeper we had in a few years !
The goals we’ve conceded lately have been either great strikes or deflections into the top corners.
Time for a bit of team spirit between players and fans to get us through this tough patch and back to winning ways ! |
This. Equally I don’t think that he was as good as he was being made out to be last season. He made some decent saves but not that many that you wouldn’t expect a professional keeper to make. I’d certainly stick with him, because the real problems are ahead of him ie inability to convert chances and some powderpuff defending in front of him | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:00 - Jan 23 with 1761 views | LeoMuff |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:34 - Jan 22 by FrimleyBlue |
Can't just stick with something that's clearly broken Joe.
He's been lower end of saves/shots all season. His job is to save shots. |
I don’t think a must win game is the time to switch keepers, even though I agree Walton has not been at his best for a while.
Hladky wilted under the pressure when we brought a new squad under Cook and came under pressure to perform, that strike me as the character to come in for Tuesdaywhen things could turn if we conceded or are struggling. |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:56 - Jan 23 with 1696 views | Sharkey |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:44 - Jan 23 by RKD |
If Sir Bobby had a bigger squad to call upon and rotate, we might not have ended up throwing away the title and FA Cup due to injuries.
Moreover, our rivals are now using bigger squads whereas they were also using the same 13-16 players all season back then. |
I was reading about this the other day. Between April '79 and September 80.. Liverpool had a starting 11 that started 48 games for the club, of the 80 games they played in that period. In total, that XI played 2,778 games in all competitions. Town fans of a certain age can probably name that XI, almost as easily as they can name the Town 'first XI' of the same era. |  | | |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:49 - Mar 19 with 1054 views | RKD |
Lol | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:51 - Mar 19 with 919 views | Swansea_Blue |
NEVER go full Frimmers! |  |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:56 - Mar 19 with 912 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 11:49 - Mar 19 by RKD |
Lol |
I think it was a fair and accurate comment at the time. From just before the Charlton game up until a month ago, Walton wasn’t saving anything that was shot at goal. We conceded every shot on target and slipped from the automatic places to 10 points adrift from the top two.
Our recent form has been in no small part to Walton rediscovering the sort of form he was consistently achieving last season.
That statement and my op are not mutually exclusive. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:20 - Mar 19 with 852 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:56 - Mar 19 by GlasgowBlue |
I think it was a fair and accurate comment at the time. From just before the Charlton game up until a month ago, Walton wasn’t saving anything that was shot at goal. We conceded every shot on target and slipped from the automatic places to 10 points adrift from the top two.
Our recent form has been in no small part to Walton rediscovering the sort of form he was consistently achieving last season.
That statement and my op are not mutually exclusive. |
It wasn't an outrageous post. It was definitely wrong in it's conclusion though. | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 14:34 - Mar 19 with 818 views | RKD |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:56 - Mar 19 by GlasgowBlue |
I think it was a fair and accurate comment at the time. From just before the Charlton game up until a month ago, Walton wasn’t saving anything that was shot at goal. We conceded every shot on target and slipped from the automatic places to 10 points adrift from the top two.
Our recent form has been in no small part to Walton rediscovering the sort of form he was consistently achieving last season.
That statement and my op are not mutually exclusive. |
I don’t disagree at all and didn’t at the time. I was thinking yesterday how well he has done, and I stumbled across this thread by accident so gave it a bump! | |
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| Time for Walton to take a rest on 17:42 - Mar 19 with 675 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Time for Walton to take a rest on 13:56 - Mar 19 by GlasgowBlue |
I think it was a fair and accurate comment at the time. From just before the Charlton game up until a month ago, Walton wasn’t saving anything that was shot at goal. We conceded every shot on target and slipped from the automatic places to 10 points adrift from the top two.
Our recent form has been in no small part to Walton rediscovering the sort of form he was consistently achieving last season.
That statement and my op are not mutually exclusive. |
Yep, it's nice that you simply recognize the improvement and don't put the improvement down to him listening to you.
I also felt similar to you at that time, but still didn't trust Hladky enough to consider a switch. |  |
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