| Today's Budget 07:39 - Mar 15 with 5742 views | NeedhamChris |
Rumblings seem to be that the free childcare places might be extended to 1 and 2 year olds in the budget today.
With a first child due next week - this would be a really pleasant surprise so hope this does materialise.
By no means a Tory, but would welcome that immensely. Anyone else looking out for anything particular today?
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| Today's Budget on 16:47 - Mar 15 with 1036 views | giant_stow |
For the hard of thinking, does this mean that people paying tax over 100 grand get £27,000 off their next tax bill.
I don;t get it! |  |
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| Today's Budget on 16:50 - Mar 15 with 1008 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Today's Budget on 16:16 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
Up to £27k tax break for high earners. Sweet.
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With this, and all the other outrageously unfair and downright irresponsible moves by these self-serving charlatans, it does make me wonder - particularly given how brazen it is now - if the Tories know they're out of the door soon and so are trousering as much as possible on the way. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 17:00 - Mar 15 with 969 views | HARRY10 |
| Today's Budget on 16:50 - Mar 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
With this, and all the other outrageously unfair and downright irresponsible moves by these self-serving charlatans, it does make me wonder - particularly given how brazen it is now - if the Tories know they're out of the door soon and so are trousering as much as possible on the way. |
That 'trousering' has been a constant the past 13 years, irrespective of any thought of being out of office.
I should imagine though, they must be amazed they have not only able been to get away with it, but have been supported in that theft by so many of the not too bright.
What was the story they told them ?
Ah yes, the bigger the part of the cake we get, the more crumbs will fall to you (though the loony Truss did take it a bit too far)
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| Today's Budget on 17:05 - Mar 15 with 974 views | baxterbasics |
I would really like them to go back to ramping up the personal tax threshold again like they did in the Cameron years. But it's barely moved since 2019. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 17:20 - Mar 15 with 940 views | jaykay |
| Today's Budget on 09:49 - Mar 15 by NeedhamChris |
Also where does your logic stop? You could apply that to anything (couple of examples below).
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not retired) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to retire it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a student) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to go to university it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a student) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to smoke it's up to you to pay for related health costs, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
Doesn't always have to be a race to the bottom does it? |
i'm retired and i forgot i never paid a penny for my government pension. my 50years of working didn't count. also child care wasn't about for my children .family allowance was the thing we got for children and not for the first child [Post edited 15 Mar 2023 17:25]
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| Today's Budget on 17:21 - Mar 15 with 950 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 08:49 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
My reading of it is the stated aim of the policy: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64959611
That it helps some people is a happy by product rather than the intention. It'll be interesting to see if they introduce disincentives for parents to stay at home in addition to this. |
From a couple of sources, including the Beeb:
"Tougher requirements to look for work and increased job support for lead child carers on universal credit". |  |
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| Today's Budget on 17:23 - Mar 15 with 949 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 17:05 - Mar 15 by baxterbasics |
I would really like them to go back to ramping up the personal tax threshold again like they did in the Cameron years. But it's barely moved since 2019. |
Yeah, that didn't go so well last time, Liz. | |
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| Today's Budget on 17:27 - Mar 15 with 947 views | BlueBadger |
| Today's Budget on 17:05 - Mar 15 by baxterbasics |
I would really like them to go back to ramping up the personal tax threshold again like they did in the Cameron years. But it's barely moved since 2019. |
Tories: we can't fund services, public sector pay and should cu money to the most vulnerable etc, etc because wen have to balance our incomings and outgoings.
Also Tories: we should cut taxes massively, particularly to the massively wealthy |  |
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| Today's Budget on 17:33 - Mar 15 with 933 views | DanTheMan |
For what it's worth, I don't think there is loads of controversial stuff in here, obviously some bits I don't agree with but nothing earth-shattering.
The childcare stuff only coming in Sept. 2025 will come as a shock to people who read the headlines and got excited only to realise they might not be able to benefit from it. I think the policy is good, childcare is crazy here, but waiting two and a half years for it seems a bit much. If I was cynical, I'd say that they may not want to actually do it and pushing it back that far they'll know that Labour would have to deal with the fallout of the policy if they design it poorly. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 17:43 - Mar 15 with 895 views | HARRY10 |
| Today's Budget on 17:21 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
From a couple of sources, including the Beeb:
"Tougher requirements to look for work and increased job support for lead child carers on universal credit". |
There is a good reason the sick, the disabled and the mentally unfit are not employed - employers do not want them.
No chivvying them along, threats to remove the £77 UC payments will change that, nor will idiot training days.
The labour shortage is the result of an incredibly stupid decision.,
Shutting off access to millions of well trained, well skilled and well motivated workers. | | | |
| Today's Budget on 17:55 - Mar 15 with 888 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Today's Budget on 17:33 - Mar 15 by DanTheMan |
For what it's worth, I don't think there is loads of controversial stuff in here, obviously some bits I don't agree with but nothing earth-shattering.
The childcare stuff only coming in Sept. 2025 will come as a shock to people who read the headlines and got excited only to realise they might not be able to benefit from it. I think the policy is good, childcare is crazy here, but waiting two and a half years for it seems a bit much. If I was cynical, I'd say that they may not want to actually do it and pushing it back that far they'll know that Labour would have to deal with the fallout of the policy if they design it poorly. |
I’m looking forward to Sunak trying to take credit for global inflation dampening. | | | |
| Today's Budget on 18:14 - Mar 15 with 845 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
My attention is further down the line at kids with abandonment issues! Now if it was shared parental leave for the first 5 years.......oh but the economy, stupid! |  |
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| Today's Budget on 18:16 - Mar 15 with 829 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Today's Budget on 07:42 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
I'll be keeping an eye out for any stealthy tax breaks for the wealthy. |
Luckily it is only doctors and other public servants with huge pensions or else you may have found one! | |
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| Today's Budget on 18:17 - Mar 15 with 812 views | BlueBadger |
| Today's Budget on 17:23 - Mar 15 by Herbivore |
Yeah, that didn't go so well last time, Liz. |
Come on now, any day now that wealth will start to trickle down. | |
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| Today's Budget on 18:21 - Mar 15 with 783 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Today's Budget on 09:54 - Mar 15 by GlasgowBlue |
Fingers crossed. In these hard times I’ve had to lay off the footman and the gillie. |
But they'll take your archivist from your cold, dead hands. | |
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| Today's Budget on 18:31 - Mar 15 with 767 views | Herbivore |
| Today's Budget on 18:17 - Mar 15 by BlueBadger |
Come on now, any day now that wealth will start to trickle down. |
I'm sure it will. The massive transfer of wealth from working people to the top 0.1% that's taken place in recent years is surely all in preparation for not just a trickle down but a massive gush of wealth into all of our pockets. I can't think what else it's all been about. | |
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| Today's Budget on 18:59 - Mar 15 with 732 views | tractordownsouth |
| Today's Budget on 08:57 - Mar 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a parent) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to have a child it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us. |
People of my generation and the one above are having fewer children and we have an ageing population as it is. Anything which both gives people the opportunity to start a family and helps to solve this problem is a positive IMO. Without it, the social care crisis in 50 years time will make the current one seem like a cakewalk.
Whether or not the measures will work is a different matter altogether, but childcare is probably only less than important than housing and health in the list of domestic issues which need solving. |  |
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| Today's Budget on 19:20 - Mar 15 with 692 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Today's Budget on 09:49 - Mar 15 by NeedhamChris |
Also where does your logic stop? You could apply that to anything (couple of examples below).
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not retired) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to retire it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a student) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to go to university it's up to you to pay for it, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
"I might be out of line here (especially as I'm not a student) but is that really the best use of limited public funds? Surely if you decide to smoke it's up to you to pay for related health costs, not the rest of us? I'd rather that money went to paying doctors/nurses a decent wage, who benefit all of us."
Doesn't always have to be a race to the bottom does it? |
Only just seen this. Not sure all your examples work. Firstly, people don't have a choice about retirement. We all have to retire at some point (if we don't drop dead first).
And I said "is it best use of limited public funds?" - I'd argue education is probably a better use of it (even though I'm not a student).
And as for your 3rd option, you think we should subsidise smokers in some way?
No it doesn't have to be a race to the bottom, and I never suggested it does. But the fact is there are limited funds, so we need to decide what's the priority for those funds. I have nothing against free childcare per se - it's just that the public purse isn't big enough to pay for everything we want. Should parents get free child care at the expense of the NHS for all, for example? I know it's not quite as simple as that, but there's no easy answers.
If it weren't for this government fecking things up we might be able to share the funds around a bit better and not have to make either/or choices. | |
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| Today's Budget on 07:23 - Mar 16 with 541 views | gazzer1999 |
| Today's Budget on 18:16 - Mar 15 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Luckily it is only doctors and other public servants with huge pensions or else you may have found one! |
Do you mean all the people that are currently striking for more pay? |  | | |
| Today's Budget on 07:28 - Mar 16 with 539 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Today's Budget on 07:23 - Mar 16 by gazzer1999 |
Do you mean all the people that are currently striking for more pay? |
I think you might be missing my point Gazzer.
Edit...ps...don't think GP's and surgeons are on strike BTW. [Post edited 16 Mar 2023 7:33]
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| Today's Budget on 09:12 - Mar 16 with 495 views | DanTheMan |
Doesn't surprise me.
It seems vaguely sensible on the face of it, but I did read a few places basically describing it as using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and the better but more difficult option would be to sort out how NHS pensions work. I think it was the IFS and Resolution Foundation saying basically the same thing.
As it is, it will cost a lost of money for something that could have been more targeted. Might be that's an option down the road. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:17 - Mar 16 with 476 views | DanTheMan |
I think they're going with basically what I was saying above; if it could be done in a way that targeted only Doctors, that would be cheaper and solve the issue.
At the moment it seems like they've gone with the "get something working now" option that is more costly but does solve the issue. | |
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| Today's Budget on 09:45 - Mar 16 with 464 views | BlueBadger |
| Today's Budget on 09:28 - Mar 15 by usm |
Easy Tiger
You cant say anything positive about the Tories on here
Phil'll get his Banhammer out
Just watch |
What is it you like best about the Tories - the bigotry, the incompetence, the corruption or the criminality? | |
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