| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 11:48 - Apr 3 with 1884 views | Heathlander |
79 Points would have got us promoted that year. We are already on 78. We won the league with 84 points. Mad how many are going to be needed this year. |  | | |  |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 12:49 - Apr 3 with 1773 views | andytown |
Might be misremembering but I think the season was 42 games back then. |  | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 12:54 - Apr 3 with 1745 views | TalkingBlues |
Wasn’t it 2 points for a win back then? |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 13:00 - Apr 3 with 1724 views | hoppy |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 12:54 - Apr 3 by TalkingBlues |
Wasn’t it 2 points for a win back then? |
No. It's been 3 points for a win since 1981 in England. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:09 - Apr 3 with 1531 views | andytown |
I stand corrected! | | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:20 - Apr 3 with 1508 views | TalkingBlues |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 13:00 - Apr 3 by hoppy |
No. It's been 3 points for a win since 1981 in England. |
Thanks, honestly couldn’t remember when the 3 points came in | |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:20 - Apr 3 with 1511 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
I think it shows a greater disparity between teams at the top and at the bottom than in the past. It was similar last season with Plymouth missing out on the play-offs with a sizeable total.
This season, to match the bottom club from that table's 45 points, FGR would need 19 points from 7 matches (6 wins and a draw) which frankly isn't going to happen. 3rd bottom would need 14 points from 7 matches (top of the league form which would see someone else drop in there on lower points).
Compare it with this season's Championship where there is much less between sides apart from Burnley who are about to confirm promotion with a decent chunk of the season left. That table from 3rd downwards is far more similar to the one from 91/92. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:26 - Apr 3 with 1495 views | Sharkey |
Similarly, when the two Essex teams got automatic promotion from this league in 2006, they got 82 and 79 points respectively, - and Colchester in second were still a comfortable three points ahead of Brentford in third.
Barnsley were also promoted, with 72 points, which is three less than they've got at the moment.
https://www.skysports.com/league-1-table/2005 [Post edited 3 Apr 2023 15:30]
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:40 - Apr 3 with 1429 views | suffolkpoker |
That was my first ever season watching town. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:48 - Apr 3 with 1387 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:40 - Apr 3 by suffolkpoker |
That was my first ever season watching town. |
It was my second season going to away games. I remember being in Leicester when our promotion was confirmed. | |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:56 - Apr 3 with 1362 views | Kropotkin123 |
Ignoring the cancelled Covid year, Colchester got promoted on 79 points, which is the lowest 2nd place (3 point per game) tally in the 3rd tier. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 16:18 - Apr 3 with 1316 views | GeoffSentence |
Lost 10 games and still went up as champions. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 16:29 - Apr 3 with 1297 views | Sharkey |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:56 - Apr 3 by Kropotkin123 |
Ignoring the cancelled Covid year, Colchester got promoted on 79 points, which is the lowest 2nd place (3 point per game) tally in the 3rd tier. |
And as I said, were still a breezy three points ahead of third. It was certainly a strangely dour league. (With much the same team, Colchester found scoring much easier in the next season, where they got something like 30 more goals in the Championship than they'd managed when getting out of League 1.) | | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 17:22 - Apr 3 with 1236 views | gainsboroughblue |
Much more level playing field. There were no real stand out sides at all in that division that season and the clubs you would have expected to shine struggled (Derby, Newcastle, Sunderland, Wolves). Blackburn were the media darlings and stinking rich (of the time) with Kenny at the helm, but they nosedived after Xmas and were arguably fortunate to get up through the PO's.
Cambridge got top 6 but went down the next year. Southend hung about in the top half. It was all a bit much of a muchness. I think we timed promotion well as 92-93 would have been much more of a struggle assuming we had the same squad as Newcastle and West Ham basically p!ssed it.
No complaints though. We had several splutters along the way, think we failed to win in 8 and lost in successive home games and in the run in, we could it sewn it up long before Oxford but seemed to freeze and goals dried up.
This years League One is just very top heavy, or is it bottom heavy. 4 really good sides, 5 goodish sides, 8 or 9 mediocre at best sides and the rest is just dreadful. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 06:12 - Apr 4 with 933 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 16:29 - Apr 3 by Sharkey |
And as I said, were still a breezy three points ahead of third. It was certainly a strangely dour league. (With much the same team, Colchester found scoring much easier in the next season, where they got something like 30 more goals in the Championship than they'd managed when getting out of League 1.) |
Haha, I should have read first. Just assumed no one would mention it! | |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 06:53 - Apr 4 with 897 views | ArchiRob |
That was a great team, felt we could score from every corner - Thompson had a great delivery. |  | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 07:15 - Apr 4 with 858 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 15:48 - Apr 3 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It was my second season going to away games. I remember being in Leicester when our promotion was confirmed. |
That’s a shame. The rest of us were in Oxford. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 08:10 - Apr 4 with 780 views | Churchman |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 07:15 - Apr 4 by ITFC_Forever |
That’s a shame. The rest of us were in Oxford. |
I wasn’t. I had to work that morning which meant no chance of getting to the game. I’d endured the dour Grimsby 0-0, the ugly loss at Bristol City, the scrambled late win against Wolves, Whitton’s winner from the evil smelling cow shed at Watford, you name it. I didn’t miss too many, but Sod’s Law meant Oxford was listened to while washing the car. Missed Southend away too. Grrr.
Oh well, what a good season it was. It was obvious to me after the performance at Liverpool that we were going to come out on top at seasons end as the team was going from strength to strength, despite the odd stumble. Just had that feeling. Even when we went behind against Newcastle, I knew we’d win. One of those seasons. |  | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 08:30 - Apr 4 with 754 views | ParisBlue |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 08:10 - Apr 4 by Churchman |
I wasn’t. I had to work that morning which meant no chance of getting to the game. I’d endured the dour Grimsby 0-0, the ugly loss at Bristol City, the scrambled late win against Wolves, Whitton’s winner from the evil smelling cow shed at Watford, you name it. I didn’t miss too many, but Sod’s Law meant Oxford was listened to while washing the car. Missed Southend away too. Grrr.
Oh well, what a good season it was. It was obvious to me after the performance at Liverpool that we were going to come out on top at seasons end as the team was going from strength to strength, despite the odd stumble. Just had that feeling. Even when we went behind against Newcastle, I knew we’d win. One of those seasons. |
I'm still drying out from Sunderland away.
I saw 4 games thar season. All losses. |  |
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| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 08:55 - Apr 4 with 718 views | Churchman |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 08:30 - Apr 4 by ParisBlue |
I'm still drying out from Sunderland away.
I saw 4 games thar season. All losses. |
I missed that drubbing (phew) and the draw at Newcastle. The only other real beating we took was Swindon at home when Hoddle took us to the cleaners. We dished a few out though. 5-2 Portsmouth was a good one.
We also crushed Tranmere in front of 11,000. That wasn’t the worst attendance either. Football was recovering from the ‘lows’ of Hillsborough and the 80s and as has been discussed in other threads. The 13k and 15k watching Derby and Barnsley in March were decent gates.
My favourite game that season was Newcastle at home. Keegan was already making a noise there and despite them going ahead, I never thought we’d lose. Great game and atmosphere. Interesting that the crowd was 20k. For the game at St James Park, it was 16k. No geordie will ever believe that! | | | |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 12:26 - Apr 4 with 618 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Whan we won the old 2nd division under John Lyall in 91/92 on 07:15 - Apr 4 by ITFC_Forever |
That’s a shame. The rest of us were in Oxford. |
Yes, I wasn't at the match! | |
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