| Which player from the current team 15:15 - Apr 17 with 2822 views | textbackup |
Would have been the ideal Jan signing for MM’s team when we were flirting with promotion?
Broadhead? Chaplin?
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| Which player from the current team on 19:22 - Apr 17 with 467 views | ibbleobble |
Whichever one can kick it the furthest. |  | | |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 20:43 - Apr 17 with 439 views | unstableblue |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 19:18 - Apr 17 by Herbivore |
Point 1 isn't quite the whole truth. McCarthy said he didn't want to sign players and risk upsetting the squad, which was overachieving and greater than the sum of its parts, unless it was going to clearly improve the side. Given we were top 6 at the time that would have meant signing top end Championship players, and although Evans may well have offered him a small kitty, there's no chance we were going to spend £3m-£5m plus wages on one player, which is the minimum it would have cost to sign a top end Championship player at that time.
Regarding the second point, we matched - arguably more than matched - Norwich up until the sending off. And we beat both Boro and Brentford that season. Brentford only took one point off us. |
Point 1 - that’s not what I understand
Point 2 - Norwich easily beat us twice in the league; Boro spanked us at their place. Boro made the final. The game at PR was all blood and thunder first half which suited us, second half they controlled it with superior play, but didn’t create chances. They were the better side, 60% possession end of.
We sneaked into the play-offs.
We had some great wins that season, and some great memories, but let’s not make out it was a team playing great football. |  |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 20:53 - Apr 17 with 439 views | Steve_M |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 19:18 - Apr 17 by Herbivore |
Point 1 isn't quite the whole truth. McCarthy said he didn't want to sign players and risk upsetting the squad, which was overachieving and greater than the sum of its parts, unless it was going to clearly improve the side. Given we were top 6 at the time that would have meant signing top end Championship players, and although Evans may well have offered him a small kitty, there's no chance we were going to spend £3m-£5m plus wages on one player, which is the minimum it would have cost to sign a top end Championship player at that time.
Regarding the second point, we matched - arguably more than matched - Norwich up until the sending off. And we beat both Boro and Brentford that season. Brentford only took one point off us. |
What a surprise that you and to reiterate that yet again Herby….
Watford finished that year and we doubled them too. |  |
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| Which player from the current team on 20:58 - Apr 17 with 431 views | Heathlander |
| Which player from the current team on 15:41 - Apr 17 by suffolkpoker |
is Davis better than Creswell? |
Yes. He is better at Ipswich than Cresswell was when he was at Ipswich. |  | | |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 21:42 - Apr 17 with 403 views | Herbivore |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 20:43 - Apr 17 by unstableblue |
Point 1 - that’s not what I understand
Point 2 - Norwich easily beat us twice in the league; Boro spanked us at their place. Boro made the final. The game at PR was all blood and thunder first half which suited us, second half they controlled it with superior play, but didn’t create chances. They were the better side, 60% possession end of.
We sneaked into the play-offs.
We had some great wins that season, and some great memories, but let’s not make out it was a team playing great football. |
Not even Aitor Karanka thought Boro were better than us at PR on the basis that they had lots of the ball. We beat them pretty comfortably that day. Your bias is really showing here and the last part of your post is pure straw manning. We've done this plenty before though so not much point. |  |
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| Which player from the current team on 21:44 - Apr 17 with 401 views | braveblue |
Luongo. No, can’t be, he got rid of him. Couldn’t kick the ball high enough!! | | | |
| Which player from the current team on 21:52 - Apr 17 with 391 views | Herbivore |
| Which player from the current team on 20:58 - Apr 17 by Heathlander |
Yes. He is better at Ipswich than Cresswell was when he was at Ipswich. |
Think that's going a bit OTT. Cresswell was an excellent Championship left back, probably the best in the league at the time. Davis is having an excellent season in League 1. | |
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| Which player from the current team on 22:11 - Apr 17 with 366 views | clive_baker |
Morsy is the obvious answer. We were fairly robust defensively under Mick. Bart, Mings, Berra, Smith, Chambers was every bit a top 6 defensive unit at the time. Murphy scoring plenty up front, McGoldrick was quality when fit and Sears was a handful.
I think between both boxes were we’re at our weakest. Anderson, Tabb etc were OK, workmanlike but I don’t think either would’ve walked into many of the top 10. Bishop had quality, if a little lightweight. Bru was largely ineffective, and as weak as a kitten. Morsy in there next to Skuse would’ve added a lot, and while I do think he’s a Championship player we do need to remember we’re in L1 now. Broadhead or Chaplin are probably 2 that you could drop into any Championship club right now and they would add a lot to, just think that Mick team needed a Morsy more than it needed a Broadhead. |  |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:17 - Apr 17 with 366 views | itfcjoe |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 18:25 - Apr 17 by unstableblue |
1) McCarthy was offered to strengthen in the January window by Evans but refused as he didn’t want to upset the squad dynamic
2) Whilst that season had some great performances and Murphy was on fire, we were regularly outplayed and outpassed by other teams, and even with 11 men we weren’t going to beat the better quality of play and system that Norwich, Brentford and Middlesborough |
1) why did we then sign Chris Wood and Zeki Fryers after the window shut so could only get them on loans with recalls on them (which in Wood’s case was subsequently triggered) if we didn’t want to sign anyone. We obviously wanted two players but budget wasn’t there to get them in Jan when more expensive so we had to take cheap risky option
2) we more than matched Norwich up until the red, and Boro didn’t turn up to the final - and we’d beaten them in the league that year |  |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:29 - Apr 17 with 354 views | unstableblue |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 21:42 - Apr 17 by Herbivore |
Not even Aitor Karanka thought Boro were better than us at PR on the basis that they had lots of the ball. We beat them pretty comfortably that day. Your bias is really showing here and the last part of your post is pure straw manning. We've done this plenty before though so not much point. |
In reality Boro didn’t turn up that day at PR, that’s what their manager was focussing upon and what’s he was angry about…
Middlesbrough manager Aitor Karanka:
“This is the first time I have been angry with my players' attitude. After last week's win against Derby County, we thought we were a Champions League team. But today it is impossible to take anything from the game. Ipswich wanted it more than us. It was our worst performance of the season - it is difficult to understand."
They still had 52% possession and 12 shots. | |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:31 - Apr 17 with 354 views | Herbivore |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:29 - Apr 17 by unstableblue |
In reality Boro didn’t turn up that day at PR, that’s what their manager was focussing upon and what’s he was angry about…
Middlesbrough manager Aitor Karanka:
“This is the first time I have been angry with my players' attitude. After last week's win against Derby County, we thought we were a Champions League team. But today it is impossible to take anything from the game. Ipswich wanted it more than us. It was our worst performance of the season - it is difficult to understand."
They still had 52% possession and 12 shots. |
I'm not even sure what county the goalposts are in at this point. | |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:31 - Apr 17 with 354 views | clive_baker |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:17 - Apr 17 by itfcjoe |
1) why did we then sign Chris Wood and Zeki Fryers after the window shut so could only get them on loans with recalls on them (which in Wood’s case was subsequently triggered) if we didn’t want to sign anyone. We obviously wanted two players but budget wasn’t there to get them in Jan when more expensive so we had to take cheap risky option
2) we more than matched Norwich up until the red, and Boro didn’t turn up to the final - and we’d beaten them in the league that year |
I don’t think there’s much denying Norwich were a better side than us. Especially since Alex Neil had taken over they had been on a great run. They finished comfortably above us and nearly got into the automatics, they had done the double over us in the league and while the 1st leg of the p/offs at Portman Road was very even, they were the better side in the 2nd. We can say up until the red it was even but the red was a blatant handball that denied a goal, it’s not like it was unjust. | |
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| Which player from the current team on 22:53 - Apr 17 with 331 views | Simonds92 |
| Which player from the current team on 17:46 - Apr 17 by BlueBadger |
Both Burns AND Broadhead are the sort of wingers Mick loved. Pacey, direct and a decent cross on them. |
If they have an end product they're wingers that everyone loves. Unfortunately he managed to sign wingers that were neither pacey or direct. Its like saying Mick loved a striker who scored goals but in reality he signed Leon Best and Luke Varney. | | | |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 23:24 - Apr 17 with 322 views | unstableblue |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 22:17 - Apr 17 by itfcjoe |
1) why did we then sign Chris Wood and Zeki Fryers after the window shut so could only get them on loans with recalls on them (which in Wood’s case was subsequently triggered) if we didn’t want to sign anyone. We obviously wanted two players but budget wasn’t there to get them in Jan when more expensive so we had to take cheap risky option
2) we more than matched Norwich up until the red, and Boro didn’t turn up to the final - and we’d beaten them in the league that year |
Sorry Joe, but Marcus Evans has stated that he offered Mick funds for permanent transfers and it was Micks decision not to use them. It’s a fact.
Also Joe you have to admit Norwich were the better side over the two legs. Second half at PR once we’d stopped running around like loons, Norwich looked far better.
Again there was a lot to like about that season, and some great performances. Were we serious promotion contenders? Not in my view. | |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 23:52 - Apr 17 with 306 views | Superblue95 |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 18:25 - Apr 17 by unstableblue |
1) McCarthy was offered to strengthen in the January window by Evans but refused as he didn’t want to upset the squad dynamic
2) Whilst that season had some great performances and Murphy was on fire, we were regularly outplayed and outpassed by other teams, and even with 11 men we weren’t going to beat the better quality of play and system that Norwich, Brentford and Middlesborough |
What’s any of that got to do with the OP?
It takes a very weird individual to start partaking in some totally unprovoked Mick bashing 5 whole years after he’s left in a light hypothetical question thread.
Who gives a toss if he wanted to sign anybody or not? It was years ago, can’t be changed and the topic of conversation has been had on here 7524799041 times already anyway.
Just pick a player or don’t post rather than derailing a thread with the same old sh1te.
Burns for me, would have given us the option to play with wing backs so chambers could stay a bit more central or even keeping the same system he would be an upgrade on Anderson. Midfield could have done with Morsy though so tough choice. |  |
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| Just to clarify one more time.. on 05:31 - Apr 18 with 277 views | BondiBlue |
| Just to clarify one more time.. on 23:52 - Apr 17 by Superblue95 |
What’s any of that got to do with the OP?
It takes a very weird individual to start partaking in some totally unprovoked Mick bashing 5 whole years after he’s left in a light hypothetical question thread.
Who gives a toss if he wanted to sign anybody or not? It was years ago, can’t be changed and the topic of conversation has been had on here 7524799041 times already anyway.
Just pick a player or don’t post rather than derailing a thread with the same old sh1te.
Burns for me, would have given us the option to play with wing backs so chambers could stay a bit more central or even keeping the same system he would be an upgrade on Anderson. Midfield could have done with Morsy though so tough choice. |
On the subject of chambers moving inside, Mick would have loved JD. | |
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| Which player from the current team on 07:20 - Apr 18 with 252 views | Herbivore |
| Which player from the current team on 22:53 - Apr 17 by Simonds92 |
If they have an end product they're wingers that everyone loves. Unfortunately he managed to sign wingers that were neither pacey or direct. Its like saying Mick loved a striker who scored goals but in reality he signed Leon Best and Luke Varney. |
It's almost like the quality of players available to you correlates with the funds (or lack of) that you are given. | |
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| Which player from the current team on 07:29 - Apr 18 with 238 views | USA |
Doesn’t matter as whomever it was that MM signed he would’ve taken all the positives from their game and stifled them into a negative defensive player to fit the style of play. How Parr wasn’t right back after his performances in autumn I’ll never know. 💩
Move on. Kieron’s at the wheel!! | |
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