| Championship Football 08:57 - May 8 with 2284 views | eddiespearitt03 |
Expect the results to possibly be a bit more patchy next season.
Really hoping we can strengthen the squad with some quality.
I would like to think McKenna knows we.ll have to recruit and release players. |  | | |  |
| Championship Football on 09:08 - May 8 with 2213 views | norfsufblue |
There's a song about that I think🤔 Though it might need a bit of a rewrite after the summer 😉 |  | | |
| Championship Football on 09:15 - May 8 with 2168 views | J2BLUE |
I think you can rest easy Eddie... |  |
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| Championship Football on 09:16 - May 8 with 2166 views | wkj |
If Soton and Everton go down, I expect them to slide into the middle of the table as something is quite broken. Forest is also facing some financial turbulence as well - so, next season in the Championship could be one of the best shots for clubs without the parachute payments to get a doorway in to the premier league. So, it will be a really interesting campaign for us. |  |
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| Championship Football on 09:23 - May 8 with 2126 views | Swansea_Blue |
I think people are getting carried away and will be in for a bit of a shock at the step up in standard needed. Can we raise our game? I think we can, as we’ve played well against the best teams in this league and we seem to struggle when we’re dragged down by anti-football sides. But it’ll be tough. |  |
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| Championship Football on 09:28 - May 8 with 2085 views | Ftnfwest |
Would be happy with top half and having that as a realistic target. But who knows? |  | | |
| Championship Football on 09:30 - May 8 with 2072 views | BLUEBEAT |
Vincent Kompany didn’t seem to think there was much difference between ITFC and Championship clubs 🙂 |  |
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| Championship Football on 09:30 - May 8 with 2064 views | wkj |
| Championship Football on 09:28 - May 8 by Ftnfwest |
Would be happy with top half and having that as a realistic target. But who knows? |
As things stand, I genuinely feel that we're a stronger side than went down, and possibly even stronger than Mick's mid-table team. So, on that token I feel top half is possibly more realistic than it initially seems. [Post edited 8 May 2023 9:43]
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| Championship Football on 09:54 - May 8 with 1995 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
I think mid table next season should be comfortable. Let's see who we had 1st.
Rumour has it Neymar could be available |  |
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| Championship Football on 09:57 - May 8 with 1979 views | jayessess |
| Championship Football on 09:16 - May 8 by wkj |
If Soton and Everton go down, I expect them to slide into the middle of the table as something is quite broken. Forest is also facing some financial turbulence as well - so, next season in the Championship could be one of the best shots for clubs without the parachute payments to get a doorway in to the premier league. So, it will be a really interesting campaign for us. |
Not sure this is very realistic. If Everton and Southampton are relegated they'll come down with huge advantages over everyone else in the league - budget, value of playing staff, big category one academies.
Everyone's looking at Everton's finances but they'd raise £100m just by selling Onana and Pickford. They've got a squad full of quality, including fringe players like Ben Godfrey, James Garner, Neal Maupay, Ellis SImms who bossed the Championship last time they were in it. They've Jarrad Branthwaite to come back from a loan spell competing in the Champions League, Tom Cannon has been the form striker in the league too.
Only way they slide into mid-table is if their manager is a total incompetent (and Dyche clearly isn't) or if they outright go bankrupt.
Southampton same, they'll sell Romeo Lavia for double our annual budget, then get double our annual budget again from parachute money. They haven't got a competent manager in post, so there's a greater chance they screw things up but if they get their resources to even vaguely talk on the pitch, they'll finish first or second. |  |
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| Championship Football on 10:00 - May 8 with 1961 views | wkj |
| Championship Football on 09:57 - May 8 by jayessess |
Not sure this is very realistic. If Everton and Southampton are relegated they'll come down with huge advantages over everyone else in the league - budget, value of playing staff, big category one academies.
Everyone's looking at Everton's finances but they'd raise £100m just by selling Onana and Pickford. They've got a squad full of quality, including fringe players like Ben Godfrey, James Garner, Neal Maupay, Ellis SImms who bossed the Championship last time they were in it. They've Jarrad Branthwaite to come back from a loan spell competing in the Champions League, Tom Cannon has been the form striker in the league too.
Only way they slide into mid-table is if their manager is a total incompetent (and Dyche clearly isn't) or if they outright go bankrupt.
Southampton same, they'll sell Romeo Lavia for double our annual budget, then get double our annual budget again from parachute money. They haven't got a competent manager in post, so there's a greater chance they screw things up but if they get their resources to even vaguely talk on the pitch, they'll finish first or second. |
It's not so much about finances, but a general lack of harmony and organisation. I think Dyche is going to need a full season to rebuild, and then comes the question of the owner's patience with Sean Dyche.
Soton seem to be in total shambles from top to bottom.
The problems with these two clubs is more than just money. [Post edited 8 May 2023 10:02]
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| Championship Football on 10:26 - May 8 with 1869 views | jayessess |
| Championship Football on 10:00 - May 8 by wkj |
It's not so much about finances, but a general lack of harmony and organisation. I think Dyche is going to need a full season to rebuild, and then comes the question of the owner's patience with Sean Dyche.
Soton seem to be in total shambles from top to bottom.
The problems with these two clubs is more than just money. [Post edited 8 May 2023 10:02]
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Most teams look to be in total disarray (Burnley did) when they're getting relegated from the Premier League, but usually their resources tell the next season on the pitch.
Like I say, Dyche has the bones of a Championship-winning team sat on his bench already, can't see that he needs a full season to rebuild. Southampton's future is less clear because they've mainly been chucking money at unproven talents and don't have a serious manager in the building. But still they have Kyle Walker-Peters and James Ward-Prowse, in amongst a bunch of players like Che Adams and Adam Armstrong who've already excelled in the Championship.
eta. It's obviously possible for both clubs to continue screwing up and get themselves in even further trouble. I just don't think it's the default outcome here and both will go in with the other relegated club as the three favourites to win the league. [Post edited 8 May 2023 10:36]
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| Championship Football on 10:45 - May 8 with 1817 views | Whos_blue |
I also expect results to be more patchy too, especially when compared to the recent incredible run of form.
I'm confident we'll have a good season next season, but of course we all have different definitions of what good looks like. I would definitely be called a happy clapper by some around here.
For me, good looks like a strong upper mid table finish, but I do worry that after a string of defeats or draws, we may see the unfathomable scenes of fans launching the C bomb at Morsy again, or getting on at Walton and Wolfy for trying to pass the ball around in and around our box.
We're sometimes a funny old fanbase. Incredible during the good times, but a bit bed wetty after even the smallest dip in form.
I'm sure we're not unique though in the modern world of high expectation football.
I can't wait for next season. There will be some superb teams in the Championship next season and I have total faith in KM and Ashdon to tweak the squad into a competitive unit.
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| Championship Football on 10:53 - May 8 with 1788 views | jayessess |
Not possibly, definitely. We won 28 games this season, 60.8% of the total. If we win more than 40% next season, we'll be doing very very well. | |
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| Championship Football on 10:54 - May 8 with 1784 views | Warkystache |
| Championship Football on 10:45 - May 8 by Whos_blue |
I also expect results to be more patchy too, especially when compared to the recent incredible run of form.
I'm confident we'll have a good season next season, but of course we all have different definitions of what good looks like. I would definitely be called a happy clapper by some around here.
For me, good looks like a strong upper mid table finish, but I do worry that after a string of defeats or draws, we may see the unfathomable scenes of fans launching the C bomb at Morsy again, or getting on at Walton and Wolfy for trying to pass the ball around in and around our box.
We're sometimes a funny old fanbase. Incredible during the good times, but a bit bed wetty after even the smallest dip in form.
I'm sure we're not unique though in the modern world of high expectation football.
I can't wait for next season. There will be some superb teams in the Championship next season and I have total faith in KM and Ashdon to tweak the squad into a competitive unit.
COYB!!!! |
I think the owners will be happy to see progress being made and this will largely be seen not by final league position but promise shown.
I can definitely see us being a sort of Sunderland next season; difficult to beat, perhaps a bit gung-ho at times, but with a strong core of decent players and a good all-round goalscoring threat. I'd love to see us go for the likes of Amad Diallo, on loan at Sunderland for the season from Man Utd. I also think we need a ball-winning DM for when Morsy can't play and possibly a new CD.
It looks good at the moment though. Get these lads on a roll and, as we've seen this season, they're difficult to stop. |  |
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| One big difference will be the quality of striker we’ll face on 10:56 - May 8 with 1778 views | unstableblue |
You get away with less
More half chances get taken
Akpom,
Gyokeres
Morris
Prior
Tella
Different gravy
The other big one will be central midfield… Morsy and who is beside him just won’t be able to dominate as they have in League One |  |
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| One big difference will be the quality of striker we’ll face on 11:02 - May 8 with 1728 views | jayessess |
| One big difference will be the quality of striker we’ll face on 10:56 - May 8 by unstableblue |
You get away with less
More half chances get taken
Akpom,
Gyokeres
Morris
Prior
Tella
Different gravy
The other big one will be central midfield… Morsy and who is beside him just won’t be able to dominate as they have in League One |
Yes, there's a bit of a worry that our back four look marvellous when they're not been asked to defend that much. Our recent run of harder away games offers some reassurance on that front though. | |
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| Championship Football on 11:23 - May 8 with 1677 views | NthQldITFC |
| Championship Football on 10:45 - May 8 by Whos_blue |
I also expect results to be more patchy too, especially when compared to the recent incredible run of form.
I'm confident we'll have a good season next season, but of course we all have different definitions of what good looks like. I would definitely be called a happy clapper by some around here.
For me, good looks like a strong upper mid table finish, but I do worry that after a string of defeats or draws, we may see the unfathomable scenes of fans launching the C bomb at Morsy again, or getting on at Walton and Wolfy for trying to pass the ball around in and around our box.
We're sometimes a funny old fanbase. Incredible during the good times, but a bit bed wetty after even the smallest dip in form.
I'm sure we're not unique though in the modern world of high expectation football.
I can't wait for next season. There will be some superb teams in the Championship next season and I have total faith in KM and Ashdon to tweak the squad into a competitive unit.
COYB!!!! |
I think fans are more or less the same across all clubs, with us probably less severely unstable than most on the whole. Don't think it's limited to football either, it's societal change, entitlement, media-driven ego inflation, unrealistic expectations and a general dumbing down of humanity. |  |
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| Championship Football on 11:38 - May 8 with 1612 views | Ftnfwest |
| Championship Football on 09:30 - May 8 by wkj |
As things stand, I genuinely feel that we're a stronger side than went down, and possibly even stronger than Mick's mid-table team. So, on that token I feel top half is possibly more realistic than it initially seems. [Post edited 8 May 2023 9:43]
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Absolutely. You have to look at the ‘hierarchy’ in each division a well. L1 was 7 or 8 fully competitive teams, a handful in the middle and about a third who wer pretty much L2. Champ looks a bit more even (a lot more middling teams and only 3 or 4 at either end though that will change a bit at the top next season | | | |
| Championship Football on 11:46 - May 8 with 1584 views | patrickswell |
| Championship Football on 10:45 - May 8 by Whos_blue |
I also expect results to be more patchy too, especially when compared to the recent incredible run of form.
I'm confident we'll have a good season next season, but of course we all have different definitions of what good looks like. I would definitely be called a happy clapper by some around here.
For me, good looks like a strong upper mid table finish, but I do worry that after a string of defeats or draws, we may see the unfathomable scenes of fans launching the C bomb at Morsy again, or getting on at Walton and Wolfy for trying to pass the ball around in and around our box.
We're sometimes a funny old fanbase. Incredible during the good times, but a bit bed wetty after even the smallest dip in form.
I'm sure we're not unique though in the modern world of high expectation football.
I can't wait for next season. There will be some superb teams in the Championship next season and I have total faith in KM and Ashdon to tweak the squad into a competitive unit.
COYB!!!! |
Just on the fans, I think that having got back to our baseline level of the Championship, people will be patient with the team because they know that it’s a step up and we’ll be among a number of teams that are as well resourced as our own.
In League One, every defeat or dropped point was seen as proof that we were never going to get out of the division and that the Banter Era was going to last forever. |  | | |
| Championship Football on 12:02 - May 8 with 1511 views | LankHenners |
Naturally there'll be more losses and the draws will be more hard-fought than getting done by a deflection from the opposition's only shot on goal. There also won't be the dross you can reliably stick 3 or 4 past every week like we've done, even the worst Championship teams would expect to finish top 8 at least in League One, though we've shown we can deal with that level of quality reasonably comfortably.
There's also a bit of realism needed for the narrative that teams will be more open so we'll carve them apart (example often cited: Rotherham in the FA Cup) and that we won't face so many teams sitting everyone behind the ball. The more expressive teams will be more dangerous going forwards and give our defence more to think about than they've been used to, and there will still be teams that make things awkward but will be better at it than, say, Port Vale, whilst also carrying more of a threat.
Saying all that, we play a good brand of football that should suit the league, we have a very bright manager who clearly gets the best out of the players individually and collectively, we've got some senior heads who already have decent Championship experience (Walton, Morsy, Luongo, Ball, Chaplin), we've got some younger players who look like they're ready for the step up (Davis, Woolfenden, Broadhead) and we can look at Sunderland as an example of a big club who've come up with momentum, added some quality through shrewd singings and blue chip loans and will end up in the playoffs or a whisker away from them.
Will be some tough calls to make in terms of squad development but I trust McKenna and team to get that right. There are a lot of teams in the Championship kicking their heels a bit as well whilst we'll come up flying, don't see any reason why we can't have a good season. |  |
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