| Striker talk 16:28 - May 15 with 8827 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
A lot hinging on what Leicester decide to do with Hirst. Should we not be looking to sign more than one anyway? Someone of equal quality and/or potential to Hirst? Ladapo only 9 Championship goals (admittedly that's 9 more than Hirst has scored) and 30 now so unlikely to develop much further. Good at League 1 but is he good enough to be number 2 in the Championship for a team with higher ambition? I'd be surprised if the club aren't looking to add two strikers (one hopefully will be Hirst), rather than betting everything on Hirst/another + Ladapo.
Apologies if this thread has already been done.
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| Striker talk on 22:29 - May 15 with 2429 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Striker talk on 22:07 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
Ladapo as one of the 2 main 9’s would be an absolute disaster for us in the Championship, people have very short memories indeed on this thread, we had to bring 2 forwards to the club in Jan cos the existing players (Harness and Ladapo) couldn’t hit a barn door with a Banjo and not only that, but Ladapo despite being 8 feet tall can’t head a ball for toffee and is painfully slow! Hirst has been a marginal improvement on Ladapo, but he’s still a long way off being a decent player and his only claim to fame for us, was being a marginal improvement on Ladapo, hardly a claim to fame, he’s brilliant at chasing defenders down, but nowhere near clinical, even by league 1 standards. Could Hirst improve? Sure, but he needs to do it fast and If the club holds out any hope of promotion again any time soon, we’ll need at least 2 new proven forwards. |
We didn't bring in hirst because ladapo couldn't score. He was scoring and quite alot when hirst came in.
We didn't however
1.. have a 2nd option other than Jackson
2.. have someone who could compete with ladapo |  |
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| Striker talk on 22:30 - May 15 with 2429 views | Herbivore |
| Striker talk on 22:07 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
Ladapo as one of the 2 main 9’s would be an absolute disaster for us in the Championship, people have very short memories indeed on this thread, we had to bring 2 forwards to the club in Jan cos the existing players (Harness and Ladapo) couldn’t hit a barn door with a Banjo and not only that, but Ladapo despite being 8 feet tall can’t head a ball for toffee and is painfully slow! Hirst has been a marginal improvement on Ladapo, but he’s still a long way off being a decent player and his only claim to fame for us, was being a marginal improvement on Ladapo, hardly a claim to fame, he’s brilliant at chasing defenders down, but nowhere near clinical, even by league 1 standards. Could Hirst improve? Sure, but he needs to do it fast and If the club holds out any hope of promotion again any time soon, we’ll need at least 2 new proven forwards. |
Why do you feel the need to incessantly talk such rampant b0llocks? |  |
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| Striker talk on 22:37 - May 15 with 2406 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 22:29 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue |
We didn't bring in hirst because ladapo couldn't score. He was scoring and quite alot when hirst came in.
We didn't however
1.. have a 2nd option other than Jackson
2.. have someone who could compete with ladapo |
He was awful, had 7 goals in 24 games and was missing sitters every week, he actually started playing a lot better after Hirst and Broadhead arrived. |  |
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| Striker talk on 22:40 - May 15 with 2395 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 22:30 - May 15 by Herbivore |
Why do you feel the need to incessantly talk such rampant b0llocks? |
The fact I have a different opinion to you doesn’t make it boll0cks, especially so when the gist of of things is that you think Ladapo is going to fire us into the Premier League next season. | |
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| Striker talk on 22:43 - May 15 with 2388 views | Herbivore |
| Striker talk on 22:40 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
The fact I have a different opinion to you doesn’t make it boll0cks, especially so when the gist of of things is that you think Ladapo is going to fire us into the Premier League next season. |
This is the bit where you're meant to say you were only joking to try and save face. | |
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| Striker talk on 22:45 - May 15 with 2370 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 22:43 - May 15 by Herbivore |
This is the bit where you're meant to say you were only joking to try and save face. |
Oh, bit late now 🙄 | |
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| Striker talk on 22:57 - May 15 with 2349 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Striker talk on 19:50 - May 15 by Parky |
Jay Stansfield. |
I wonder whether he might be looked at - he must be on the dashboard. He was the only quality Exeter had on that famous day at FPR, despite coming on as a sub having been injured - and he scored a hatrick in his next match. Can’t imagine we would take him on loan though. |  | | |
| Striker talk on 23:20 - May 15 with 2312 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| Striker talk on 22:07 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
Ladapo as one of the 2 main 9’s would be an absolute disaster for us in the Championship, people have very short memories indeed on this thread, we had to bring 2 forwards to the club in Jan cos the existing players (Harness and Ladapo) couldn’t hit a barn door with a Banjo and not only that, but Ladapo despite being 8 feet tall can’t head a ball for toffee and is painfully slow! Hirst has been a marginal improvement on Ladapo, but he’s still a long way off being a decent player and his only claim to fame for us, was being a marginal improvement on Ladapo, hardly a claim to fame, he’s brilliant at chasing defenders down, but nowhere near clinical, even by league 1 standards. Could Hirst improve? Sure, but he needs to do it fast and If the club holds out any hope of promotion again any time soon, we’ll need at least 2 new proven forwards. |
Some very suspect opinions in this post but you make a good point about Ladapo not scoring many headed goals given his size.
Also a bit unfair to lump Ladapo and Harness in the same bracket….. |  | | |
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| Striker talk on 23:26 - May 15 with 2306 views | BigCommon |
I think Ladapo of today is a different animal to Ladapo pre Christmas.. Don't think he was at his best when he had the pressure of being our only lead striker, on his shoulders. Whether it was pressure, or a lack of competition, its hard to tell. But to recover from a slowish start, and hit 20 goals, tells me he's improved quite a bit 2nd half of the season. His last two strikes at Posh and Fleetwood were both really confident finishes.
A couple of plus points for me..... He's responded well to KMs coaching and improved during his short time here, so may improve further. ( Its simply not true , that players reach a certain age and stop improving. Ladapo, Morsy, Walton, Burgess, Chaplin? All senior players, all improved under KM )..
He's had a years worth of bedding into our coaching/tactics, getting to know the players and staff around him. Which counts for something, imo. Could take a new player a little time to bed in..
He's scored 20plus goals on his debut season for us.At almost exactly the same mpg as Chaplin. If it wasn't for Chaplins exceptional return, I think FL would be far more appreciated by some.
I don't think FL is going to spearhead our attack and shoot us to the Prem, single handedly. But, at the same time.The are a few decent reasons to have him around. Even if, like last season, we try a few things until January, and reasses..After all, he came on a free, so its not as if we have to recoup a fee for him.And I think we can agree, his contribution, already, justifies whatever we've paid him in wages.
If he did move on to a top end L1 club. Then they would be getting, the best version of Ladapo, that anyone has seen before, given his improvements whilst has been here... Personally think he could still have a role here, in some capacity. He's the best back to goal striker on our books atm.
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| Striker talk on 23:33 - May 15 with 2293 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 23:20 - May 15 by Matt_Netherlands |
Some very suspect opinions in this post but you make a good point about Ladapo not scoring many headed goals given his size.
Also a bit unfair to lump Ladapo and Harness in the same bracket….. |
Feel sorry for Harness really, when we first signed him he was playing quite wide and looked really good, scored some good goals and looked the part, then we changed the system a bit and he was brought in to a more central position and just never adapted to it, though I’m not sure that entirely explains the 10,000 missed shots, or gaining the first touch ability of a trampoline. | |
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| Striker talk on 23:34 - May 15 with 2293 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Striker talk on 23:20 - May 15 by Matt_Netherlands |
Some very suspect opinions in this post but you make a good point about Ladapo not scoring many headed goals given his size.
Also a bit unfair to lump Ladapo and Harness in the same bracket….. |
Whilst I agree Freddies not had the best of times in the air..
How many crosses actually are made in the air...
Asking any striker to covert 100% of actual aerial crosses is a bit much imo. | |
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| Striker talk on 23:34 - May 15 with 2291 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 23:34 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst I agree Freddies not had the best of times in the air..
How many crosses actually are made in the air...
Asking any striker to covert 100% of actual aerial crosses is a bit much imo. |
Or in Freddie’s case, 1% | |
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| Striker talk on 23:41 - May 15 with 2284 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Striker talk on 23:34 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
Or in Freddie’s case, 1% |
How many goals has hirst scored with his head.. | |
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| Striker talk on 23:53 - May 15 with 2271 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 23:41 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue |
How many goals has hirst scored with his head.. |
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| Striker talk on 23:58 - May 15 with 2259 views | FrimleyBlue |
Quite impressive.
He'd only scored 1 goal in a year before coming to town. | |
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| Striker talk on 00:04 - May 16 with 2252 views | TalkingBlues |
| Striker talk on 23:58 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Quite impressive.
He'd only scored 1 goal in a year before coming to town. |
I just don’t know where they get these numbers from 🤥
Honestly Frimmers I’ve not checked for either player from a goals perspective, but I have several remarkable misses of Freddie’s permanently etched into my brain and Hirst does actually win a fair few flick ons during a game, I can’t recall Freddie winning one, ever, I still don’t understand it fully. | |
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| Striker talk on 00:05 - May 16 with 2253 views | cressi |
| Striker talk on 23:58 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue |
Quite impressive.
He'd only scored 1 goal in a year before coming to town. |
To be fair to Ladapo goals in the championship to minutes is decent he told Rotherham he wanted out then never played once the Jan transfer window shut goals per minutes here pretty good to, not a starter but reasonable squad player remember Hirst not cracked championship either as of yet. | | | |
| Striker talk on 00:07 - May 16 with 2243 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Striker talk on 00:05 - May 16 by cressi |
To be fair to Ladapo goals in the championship to minutes is decent he told Rotherham he wanted out then never played once the Jan transfer window shut goals per minutes here pretty good to, not a starter but reasonable squad player remember Hirst not cracked championship either as of yet. |
You need to change your username to Leifonel. | | | |
| Striker talk on 01:31 - May 16 with 2196 views | hoppy |
So we’re not seeing a major part for either Ahadme or Pigott next season then? |  |
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| Striker talk on 05:47 - May 16 with 2131 views | Parky |
| Striker talk on 22:57 - May 15 by Exiled2Surrey |
I wonder whether he might be looked at - he must be on the dashboard. He was the only quality Exeter had on that famous day at FPR, despite coming on as a sub having been injured - and he scored a hatrick in his next match. Can’t imagine we would take him on loan though. |
Think we tried to sign him before ultimately going for John-Jules, so think it’s someone McKenna rates. That said, whether we’re looking a bit higher after promotion, remains to be seen.
If a permanent deal could be done, would be a shrewd bit of business. (Believe he has 1 year left on his current Fulham deal). | | | |
| Striker talk on 06:54 - May 16 with 2102 views | Churchman |
| Striker talk on 23:26 - May 15 by BigCommon |
I think Ladapo of today is a different animal to Ladapo pre Christmas.. Don't think he was at his best when he had the pressure of being our only lead striker, on his shoulders. Whether it was pressure, or a lack of competition, its hard to tell. But to recover from a slowish start, and hit 20 goals, tells me he's improved quite a bit 2nd half of the season. His last two strikes at Posh and Fleetwood were both really confident finishes.
A couple of plus points for me..... He's responded well to KMs coaching and improved during his short time here, so may improve further. ( Its simply not true , that players reach a certain age and stop improving. Ladapo, Morsy, Walton, Burgess, Chaplin? All senior players, all improved under KM )..
He's had a years worth of bedding into our coaching/tactics, getting to know the players and staff around him. Which counts for something, imo. Could take a new player a little time to bed in..
He's scored 20plus goals on his debut season for us.At almost exactly the same mpg as Chaplin. If it wasn't for Chaplins exceptional return, I think FL would be far more appreciated by some.
I don't think FL is going to spearhead our attack and shoot us to the Prem, single handedly. But, at the same time.The are a few decent reasons to have him around. Even if, like last season, we try a few things until January, and reasses..After all, he came on a free, so its not as if we have to recoup a fee for him.And I think we can agree, his contribution, already, justifies whatever we've paid him in wages.
If he did move on to a top end L1 club. Then they would be getting, the best version of Ladapo, that anyone has seen before, given his improvements whilst has been here... Personally think he could still have a role here, in some capacity. He's the best back to goal striker on our books atm.
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I think FL is a good player to have around too. He offers something a bit different. Let’s face it, if you’ve been chased and battered by Hirst all afternoon and Ladapo trots on with his ability back to goal and to find space in the box your day isn’t going to improve much. He’s proved a good asset to have.
I like Hirst. He may not be prolific, but his pace, size, physicality really opened up the opposition and made life easier for Chaplin and co to cash in. We need a no 9 - Hirst or somebody similar. |  | | |
| Striker talk on 08:12 - May 16 with 2027 views | Herbivore |
| Striker talk on 00:04 - May 16 by TalkingBlues |
I just don’t know where they get these numbers from 🤥
Honestly Frimmers I’ve not checked for either player from a goals perspective, but I have several remarkable misses of Freddie’s permanently etched into my brain and Hirst does actually win a fair few flick ons during a game, I can’t recall Freddie winning one, ever, I still don’t understand it fully. |
More utter b0llocks. | |
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| Lucas Joao. **taps nose** (n/t) on 08:14 - May 16 with 2021 views | tractordownsouth |
| Lucas Joao. **taps nose** (n/t) on 16:33 - May 15 by Bloots |
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He would be a good addition. |  |
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| Striker talk on 08:19 - May 16 with 2012 views | textbackup |
As I’ve not heard of a single player (barring one or two) that we’ve signed in the last couple of years, I’m eagerly just sitting back and awaiting the arrival of more players I’ve never heard of, then watch them be fcking brilliant on the pitch |  |
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| Striker talk on 08:20 - May 16 with 2012 views | tractordownsouth |
| Striker talk on 22:07 - May 15 by TalkingBlues |
Ladapo as one of the 2 main 9’s would be an absolute disaster for us in the Championship, people have very short memories indeed on this thread, we had to bring 2 forwards to the club in Jan cos the existing players (Harness and Ladapo) couldn’t hit a barn door with a Banjo and not only that, but Ladapo despite being 8 feet tall can’t head a ball for toffee and is painfully slow! Hirst has been a marginal improvement on Ladapo, but he’s still a long way off being a decent player and his only claim to fame for us, was being a marginal improvement on Ladapo, hardly a claim to fame, he’s brilliant at chasing defenders down, but nowhere near clinical, even by league 1 standards. Could Hirst improve? Sure, but he needs to do it fast and If the club holds out any hope of promotion again any time soon, we’ll need at least 2 new proven forwards. |
We signed Hirst because all the other forwards were either injured (John-Jules) or unproven (Ahadme), nothing to do with Ladapo's goals record, which was a good one. | |
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