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The vegan bubble has burst. 15:07 - May 20 with 17479 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2023/may/20/has-the-vegan-bubble-burst-sales-st

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:53 - May 22 with 2749 viewsHerbivore

The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:25 - May 22 by Ryorry

I might get pelters for this, and I know it might sound weird, but Jude's Ice Cream for Dogs, which I used to give my old boy, is entirely vegetarian, and seems to consist of nothing more than fruit, fruit & veg juice, coconut oil and water. It looked and smelled absolutely delicious, and if I weren't allergic to the fruit & beet, I'd have tried it myself! Very expensive though.

https://www.ocado.com/products/jude-s-ice-cream-for-dogs-556268011?gclid=CjwKCAj

Ingredients: Water, Strawberry Puree (12%), Apple Juice from Concentrate (11%), Banana Puree (11%), Fructose, Coconut Oil, Pea Protein, Emulsifier (Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids), Beetroot Juice Concentrate, Stabilisers (Locust Bean Gum, Guar Gum)


Ice cream for dogs? And it's an expensive product? We've reached a point of decadence in Western culture from which I'm not sure we can recover.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:45 - May 22 with 2689 viewsJ2BLUE

The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:53 - May 22 by Herbivore

Ice cream for dogs? And it's an expensive product? We've reached a point of decadence in Western culture from which I'm not sure we can recover.


Miserable git.

Next you'll be saying they shouldn't even get to enjoy a glass of wine with dinner


Truly impaired.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:50 - May 22 with 2672 viewsleitrimblue

The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:45 - May 22 by J2BLUE

Miserable git.

Next you'll be saying they shouldn't even get to enjoy a glass of wine with dinner



Not serving a dog with an alcoholic beverage with his/her meal is verging on animal cruelty surely? My dog usually enjoys a nice can of crucial brew with his evening meal
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:55 - May 22 with 2669 viewsRyorry

The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:53 - May 22 by Herbivore

Ice cream for dogs? And it's an expensive product? We've reached a point of decadence in Western culture from which I'm not sure we can recover.


I've said a few times, we need a global government to save the planet from disastrous climate change, even out the appalling inequalities at least somewhat, and intevene to prevent horrendous & wasteful wars.

Will never happen (or maybe only when we've reached catastrophe stage).

'Viewed from space, earth has no national borders' etc.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:00 - May 22 with 2661 viewsJ2BLUE

The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:55 - May 22 by Ryorry

I've said a few times, we need a global government to save the planet from disastrous climate change, even out the appalling inequalities at least somewhat, and intevene to prevent horrendous & wasteful wars.

Will never happen (or maybe only when we've reached catastrophe stage).

'Viewed from space, earth has no national borders' etc.
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Thank god it will never happen. Far too much power in the hands of the few.

Truly impaired.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:04 - May 22 with 2649 viewsRyorry

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:00 - May 22 by J2BLUE

Thank god it will never happen. Far too much power in the hands of the few.


I meant an overarching body equivalent to the WHO or similar, but with authority and power to sanction. Trustworthies voted in - you could have Sir D. Attenborough eg.

#WillNeverHappen of course.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:07 - May 22 with 2645 viewsclive_baker

The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:50 - May 22 by leitrimblue

Not serving a dog with an alcoholic beverage with his/her meal is verging on animal cruelty surely? My dog usually enjoys a nice can of crucial brew with his evening meal


Alcopops were all the rage for dogs in the 90's. Few bottles of Lemon Pooch on a Friday night.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:13 - May 22 with 2634 viewsbaxterbasics

The vegan bubble has burst. on 12:55 - May 22 by Ryorry

I've said a few times, we need a global government to save the planet from disastrous climate change, even out the appalling inequalities at least somewhat, and intevene to prevent horrendous & wasteful wars.

Will never happen (or maybe only when we've reached catastrophe stage).

'Viewed from space, earth has no national borders' etc.
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"we need a global government" is exactly the kind of talk that puts so many off the environmental movement - and understandably so!

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:15 - May 22 with 2619 viewsHerbivore

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:13 - May 22 by baxterbasics

"we need a global government" is exactly the kind of talk that puts so many off the environmental movement - and understandably so!


A lot of the world's problems are going to require global solutions and humanity has shown that when you leave national governments to it they aren't very good at cooperating in the best interests of the masses.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:15 - May 22 with 2615 viewsleitrimblue

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:07 - May 22 by clive_baker

Alcopops were all the rage for dogs in the 90's. Few bottles of Lemon Pooch on a Friday night.


The whole pup culture thing in the 90,s seems a tad irresponsible now looking back. I have no problem with pets drinking as long as they do it responsible .
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:21 - May 22 with 2580 viewsPlums

The vegan bubble has burst. on 10:08 - May 21 by DanTheMan

Got a fantastic vegetarian restaurant near us called Cafe Roya. For anyone in the Nottingham area, well worth a visit.


Now Yianni's has closed, I might be able to look a little further down the road and find my way to Roya, I had heard it was good.

If anyone ever find themselves in KL, this place had some of the best food I have ever tasted and I'm not a vegan or vegetarian.

https://www.happycow.net/reviews/kusa-japanese-vegan-kuala-lumpur-168564

Sensational and cheap too.

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:35 - May 22 with 2549 viewsBuhrer

The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:27 - May 22 by J2BLUE

This reminds me of just before Christmas when I saw some biscuits on the end of an aisle and thought they look amazing. They were for dogs...


Same, I got stopped by the wife loading a little box of dog biscuits up for myself. They looked great.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:17 - May 22 with 2512 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:15 - May 22 by leitrimblue

The whole pup culture thing in the 90,s seems a tad irresponsible now looking back. I have no problem with pets drinking as long as they do it responsible .


Maybe that's where 'hair of the dog' came from.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:49 - May 22 with 2479 viewsRyorry

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:13 - May 22 by baxterbasics

"we need a global government" is exactly the kind of talk that puts so many off the environmental movement - and understandably so!


Give me your alternative then please, because nothing else is working.

Remember you need to persuade Russia, a possible Trump in the USA, China, India, & S. American countries.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:56 - May 22 with 2460 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Interesting that the article asks "HAS the vegan bubble burst?" and you've framed it as "The vegan bubble HAS burst." A subtle but important difference.

It clearly hasn't burst, it's just slowed down its expansion.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:57 - May 22 with 2456 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:49 - May 22 by Ryorry

Give me your alternative then please, because nothing else is working.

Remember you need to persuade Russia, a possible Trump in the USA, China, India, & S. American countries.


Nuclear annihilation?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:24 - May 22 with 2413 viewseireblue

The vegan bubble has burst. on 14:57 - May 22 by The_Flashing_Smile

Nuclear annihilation?


The interesting thing about not having global governance, is that the world is essentially in a state of anarchy between states.

If Anarchism it is a good enough system for nation states, surely….
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:51 - May 22 with 2391 viewsDanTheMan

The vegan bubble has burst. on 13:21 - May 22 by Plums

Now Yianni's has closed, I might be able to look a little further down the road and find my way to Roya, I had heard it was good.

If anyone ever find themselves in KL, this place had some of the best food I have ever tasted and I'm not a vegan or vegetarian.

https://www.happycow.net/reviews/kusa-japanese-vegan-kuala-lumpur-168564

Sensational and cheap too.


Yannis is reopening, they've been giving it a facelift and a little snooping suggests the owner has passed it onto his son. Good news for me as it's in walking distance.

EDIT: Actually, seems it's open now!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/815338891820008/user/100091298387411/
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:51 - May 22 with 2390 viewsbaxterbasics

The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:24 - May 22 by eireblue

The interesting thing about not having global governance, is that the world is essentially in a state of anarchy between states.

If Anarchism it is a good enough system for nation states, surely….


It is that way and somehow we've managed not to destroy ourselves, yet, despite having that ability since at least the 1960s.

The world order has thus far been 'policed' by the more powerful states, and various international agreements but only when it becomes in their interest to do so. International institutions can help, but ultimately it comes down to military or financial sanction to punish non-compliance.

Despite this I am more optimistic than most that the looming challenges can and will be met - without a full dive into tyranny.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:54 - May 22 with 2385 viewsHerbivore

The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:51 - May 22 by baxterbasics

It is that way and somehow we've managed not to destroy ourselves, yet, despite having that ability since at least the 1960s.

The world order has thus far been 'policed' by the more powerful states, and various international agreements but only when it becomes in their interest to do so. International institutions can help, but ultimately it comes down to military or financial sanction to punish non-compliance.

Despite this I am more optimistic than most that the looming challenges can and will be met - without a full dive into tyranny.


May I ask what that optimism is based on? All the evidence suggests we're fooked.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 17:40 - May 22 with 2345 viewseireblue

The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:51 - May 22 by baxterbasics

It is that way and somehow we've managed not to destroy ourselves, yet, despite having that ability since at least the 1960s.

The world order has thus far been 'policed' by the more powerful states, and various international agreements but only when it becomes in their interest to do so. International institutions can help, but ultimately it comes down to military or financial sanction to punish non-compliance.

Despite this I am more optimistic than most that the looming challenges can and will be met - without a full dive into tyranny.


So another +1 for Anarchy hurrah.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 17:58 - May 22 with 2329 viewsPlums

The vegan bubble has burst. on 16:51 - May 22 by DanTheMan

Yannis is reopening, they've been giving it a facelift and a little snooping suggests the owner has passed it onto his son. Good news for me as it's in walking distance.

EDIT: Actually, seems it's open now!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/815338891820008/user/100091298387411/
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Likewise with regard to distance. Yanni became one of our favourite lockdown deliveries. Will definitely have to sample the new wares!

It's 106 miles to Portman Road, we've got a full tank of gas, half a round of Port Salut, it's dark... and we're wearing blue tinted sunglasses.
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The vegan bubble has burst. on 19:43 - May 22 with 2276 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

The vegan bubble has burst. on 17:40 - May 22 by eireblue

So another +1 for Anarchy hurrah.


Where your definition of Anarchy is provided by the Daily Mail!!

This however will never catch on...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dsyndicalis

"Anarcho-syndicalism is a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought that views revolutionary industrial unionism or syndicalism as a method for workers in capitalist society to gain control of an economy and thus control influence in broader society. The end goal of syndicalism is to abolish the wage system, regarding it as wage slavery. Anarcho-syndicalist theory generally focuses on the labour movement.[1] Reflecting the anarchist philosophy from which it draws its primary inspiration, anarcho-syndicalism is centred on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must be dismantled.[2]

The basic principles of anarcho-syndicalism are solidarity, direct action (action undertaken without the intervention of third parties such as politicians, bureaucrats and arbitrators), and workers' self-management. Anarcho-syndicalists believe their economic theories constitute a strategy for facilitating proletarian self-activity and creating an alternative cooperative economic system with democratic values and production centred on meeting human needs."

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 20:06 - May 22 with 2248 viewsRyorry

The vegan bubble has burst. on 11:50 - May 22 by Mookamoo

Isn't all dog food passed for human consumption or is that a myth?

A tin of pedigree meaty chunks probably has better quality meat in that most own brand tins of meatballs.


It’s a myth. Some of the good quality stuff is human grade, but a lot of the cheap stuff is full of derivatives and fillers that you really wouldn’t want inside your body - or indeed that of your dog, if you care about them, and want them to live a long and healthy life.

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The vegan bubble has burst. on 20:15 - May 22 with 2234 viewseireblue

The vegan bubble has burst. on 19:43 - May 22 by BanksterDebtSlave

Where your definition of Anarchy is provided by the Daily Mail!!

This however will never catch on...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dsyndicalis

"Anarcho-syndicalism is a political philosophy and anarchist school of thought that views revolutionary industrial unionism or syndicalism as a method for workers in capitalist society to gain control of an economy and thus control influence in broader society. The end goal of syndicalism is to abolish the wage system, regarding it as wage slavery. Anarcho-syndicalist theory generally focuses on the labour movement.[1] Reflecting the anarchist philosophy from which it draws its primary inspiration, anarcho-syndicalism is centred on the idea that power corrupts and that any hierarchy that cannot be ethically justified must be dismantled.[2]

The basic principles of anarcho-syndicalism are solidarity, direct action (action undertaken without the intervention of third parties such as politicians, bureaucrats and arbitrators), and workers' self-management. Anarcho-syndicalists believe their economic theories constitute a strategy for facilitating proletarian self-activity and creating an alternative cooperative economic system with democratic values and production centred on meeting human needs."


My god Bankzy, that’s a low blow to a lighthearted response.

I’ll have you know I take my Anarchic tendencies from Lao-Tzu, and nothing from the Daily Mail.

Far too harsh a comeback.
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