| We really need a new striker in Jan 14:34 - Oct 29 with 15356 views | textbackup |
Potentially most important bit of business since Stewart |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:46 - Oct 29 with 2207 views | Vic |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 14:43 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
Yet I’d say our forwards are our weakest position.
Hirst - is ok
Ladapo- is on
Jackson - fills a gap when needed
Scarlett- no idea what he brings, doesn’t control it, doesn’t run, when he does he’s slow, doesn’t win headers. |
I look at it this way - are our strikers going to be good enough for the Prem?
Now of course, we can’t be sure and they may step up just fine (like they have to the championship). But it’s a big ask and I’d say that currently only Hirst has a chance - but I’d suggest he’s more likely to be a 1st reserve Prem striker rather than the main man.
So I’d say that yes, if we can strengthen in Jan then we defo should. But it will be a big ask and cost serious money. |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:49 - Oct 29 with 2190 views | jasondozzell |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 14:43 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
Yet I’d say our forwards are our weakest position.
Hirst - is ok
Ladapo- is on
Jackson - fills a gap when needed
Scarlett- no idea what he brings, doesn’t control it, doesn’t run, when he does he’s slow, doesn’t win headers. |
Hirst and Ladapo have both been brilliant, this season and last!
Scarlett needs game time. Such a shame he's cup tied. |  | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:50 - Oct 29 with 2191 views | jayessess |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 15:19 - Oct 29 by Dubtractor |
He is much better than OK IMO - he has been a key part of us being the joint top scorers in the division. He's not prolific himself, but the way he plays as a focal point, bringing others into play, is absolutely critical for us.
I agree with the original point that we need a better alternative option though - Ladapo is OK but not as good as Hirst. Scarlett may well come good for us, but is clearly a very different player. I don't see Jackson as a Number 9 now, other than in emergencies, or in specific circumstances. |
If Hirst's only OK, my question is relative to who? I think he's a better all round striker than almost every opponent we've faced this season.
IMO only Georginio Rutter obviously gave their team more that GH does for us. |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:51 - Oct 29 with 2185 views | MK1 |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:46 - Oct 29 by Vic |
I look at it this way - are our strikers going to be good enough for the Prem?
Now of course, we can’t be sure and they may step up just fine (like they have to the championship). But it’s a big ask and I’d say that currently only Hirst has a chance - but I’d suggest he’s more likely to be a 1st reserve Prem striker rather than the main man.
So I’d say that yes, if we can strengthen in Jan then we defo should. But it will be a big ask and cost serious money. |
Think that can be said about every position within the squad. I would like to think that most of them would be giving the chance though. |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:51 - Oct 29 with 2185 views | Jimmy86 |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 15:05 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
He is ok.
He runs his nuts off, holds it up, brings others into play.
So far this season I’m yet to see him get a goal from nothing, and at times yesterday having a striker to do that might have been handy. |
Don't really get why you've been down voted the way you have, as I make you right... He plays well in our system and presses well and backs in, as others have said, but in my eyes, despite his all round game, is not exactly what you'd call clinical... Yes, his game is about more than just goals, but hopefully he'll start putting away a few more chances. He had a few good chances against Bristol City, as an example |  | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:58 - Oct 29 with 2159 views | BiGDonnie |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 15:05 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
He is ok.
He runs his nuts off, holds it up, brings others into play.
So far this season I’m yet to see him get a goal from nothing, and at times yesterday having a striker to do that might have been handy. |
Hirst is quality and will get better. We’d be spending a lot on a striker if he’s an upgrade on Hirst. |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:59 - Oct 29 with 2157 views | Vic |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:51 - Oct 29 by MK1 |
Think that can be said about every position within the squad. I would like to think that most of them would be giving the chance though. |
Probably true, but it’s most noticeable in the forwards. IMO only GH is likely to be Prem standard.
Fullbacks - both of these are prem ready (though Williams isn’t ours!). Woolf and Burgess can both step up, not sure about Edmundson. MF - Morsey will be OK an£ Mass has a season left in him. Taylor will make the grade imo. But another couple will be needed if we go up. | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:16 - Oct 29 with 2110 views | MK1 |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:59 - Oct 29 by Vic |
Probably true, but it’s most noticeable in the forwards. IMO only GH is likely to be Prem standard.
Fullbacks - both of these are prem ready (though Williams isn’t ours!). Woolf and Burgess can both step up, not sure about Edmundson. MF - Morsey will be OK an£ Mass has a season left in him. Taylor will make the grade imo. But another couple will be needed if we go up. |
I agree with most of that. Think we would need a CB, CM and at least 1 striker. Wouldn't want a squad overhaul like Forest. These players would have earnt the right to have a go at the Prem. | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:22 - Oct 29 with 2100 views | strikalite |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:58 - Oct 29 by BiGDonnie |
Hirst is quality and will get better. We’d be spending a lot on a striker if he’s an upgrade on Hirst. |
This is the thing, to buy that next step up in quality is going to cost, especially in Jan where most teams are fighting for something at either end of the table, no team wants to lose someone banging in goals, a punt from the Prem will mean someone without game time therefore a big gamble...
Give me Hirst with a bit more composure, not sure its something you can teach to be honest, it's the difference between the very top level and the level we're at, not a dig because he's overall been very good for us.. |  | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:43 - Oct 29 with 2060 views | MK1 |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:22 - Oct 29 by strikalite |
This is the thing, to buy that next step up in quality is going to cost, especially in Jan where most teams are fighting for something at either end of the table, no team wants to lose someone banging in goals, a punt from the Prem will mean someone without game time therefore a big gamble...
Give me Hirst with a bit more composure, not sure its something you can teach to be honest, it's the difference between the very top level and the level we're at, not a dig because he's overall been very good for us.. |
I think we are fine for the Championship. Hirst and Ladapo will score double figures and Chaplin, Broadhead, burns Hutchinson etc will fill the gaps. Think we are better off waiting till the summer before spending big on any new signings. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:51 - Oct 29 with 2045 views | DarkBrandon |
I think the issue is only what we’d do if Hirst was out for 6-8 weeks. If we knew he wasn’t then we could manage his workload and be ok.
We can survive an injury virtually everywhere else, but up top it would cost us a lot. And a lot of those narrow wins could easily turn into narrow defeats.
Only Morsy/Luongo are similarly irreplaceable (although, I haven’t seen much of Taylor) [Post edited 29 Oct 2023 20:17]
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:58 - Oct 29 with 2022 views | Lord_Lucan |
We could do with a Whittaker. He is very exciting.
Edit. Just notice it’s already being discussed on another thread. [Post edited 29 Oct 2023 20:01]
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:17 - Oct 29 with 1972 views | strikalite |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 19:43 - Oct 29 by MK1 |
I think we are fine for the Championship. Hirst and Ladapo will score double figures and Chaplin, Broadhead, burns Hutchinson etc will fill the gaps. Think we are better off waiting till the summer before spending big on any new signings. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
Think it's making sure we create enough chances, the service is everything, if IF we did get to the Prem then yes we'll need better and we'd attract better, harder to create lots of chances at that level, hence they're all after that proven quality, I hope we cast our net far and wide at that point.. | | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:20 - Oct 29 with 1957 views | _clive_baker_ |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:46 - Oct 29 by Vic |
I look at it this way - are our strikers going to be good enough for the Prem?
Now of course, we can’t be sure and they may step up just fine (like they have to the championship). But it’s a big ask and I’d say that currently only Hirst has a chance - but I’d suggest he’s more likely to be a 1st reserve Prem striker rather than the main man.
So I’d say that yes, if we can strengthen in Jan then we defo should. But it will be a big ask and cost serious money. |
At this stage I’m not too worried about whether they’ll be good enough for premier league football. I’m more interested in them being good enough to get us there. We’ll inevitably need to strengthen if we go up, probably 5, 6, 7 additions realistically. With this system we’re probably talking 1 proven forward if that happens, with Hirst then being the understudy so it wouldn’t take a wholesale change.
I think the way the squad is evolving is being really well managed, we’ve got our younger and ‘higher ceiling’ players largely signed up to long enough deals at this stage, and the ones who perhaps don’t meet that definition are on deals that will leave all the cards in the clubs hands. Players like Edwards, Ladapo, Aluko, Donacien, Ball, Evans. You could maybe include Edmundson, Jackson, Harness and Luongo in that as well. That’s not to say they would all be off if we go up, but it’ll definitely give us some significant wiggle room to manoeuvre. [Post edited 29 Oct 2023 20:21]
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:27 - Oct 29 with 1942 views | textbackup |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 18:51 - Oct 29 by Jimmy86 |
Don't really get why you've been down voted the way you have, as I make you right... He plays well in our system and presses well and backs in, as others have said, but in my eyes, despite his all round game, is not exactly what you'd call clinical... Yes, his game is about more than just goals, but hopefully he'll start putting away a few more chances. He had a few good chances against Bristol City, as an example |
I’m glad it’s not just me that thinks it, thought I was going mad 😂
In a few games he’s had some really good chances laid on a plate, and he’s not put them away. That’s not highly critical, it’s facts.
I couldn’t see him getting a goal like ladapo did away at charlton last season for example, he made that goal for himself, just don’t think Hirst has that about him | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:30 - Oct 29 with 1927 views | Dubtractor |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:27 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
I’m glad it’s not just me that thinks it, thought I was going mad 😂
In a few games he’s had some really good chances laid on a plate, and he’s not put them away. That’s not highly critical, it’s facts.
I couldn’t see him getting a goal like ladapo did away at charlton last season for example, he made that goal for himself, just don’t think Hirst has that about him |
Texters, mate, have you already forgotten Barnsley away?! |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:32 - Oct 29 with 1927 views | BigCommon |
Freddy and Hirst have served us well so far this season. I haven't got a problem with either player.. Although, having seen two of Plymouth's strikers pull up, with what looked like hamstring injuries, on Saturday. It just shows the dangers of over working players, heading into Winter conditions Fred already having his first niggle of the season....
Without doubt, we could do with another striker in a similar mold to Hirst, imo...
Regarding Scarlett. He hasn't had enough minutes in the right sort of games, to shine, imo. And its a tricky one for KM to mix up a successful formula. Same could be said for Taylors lack of game time, in MF.
There is every chance that we might need to mix things up a bit, 2nd half of the season. As teams work us out, tactically. And being as Scarlett will be here for the entire season, having played for 2 teams, already. Then there's plenty of time for him to contribute more. As the season moves on....We're only 13 games in.. We've had other players, playing bit parts, then making an impact... Harness being the latest example...
But, overall , we are going to need some squad bolstering in January, to reinvigorate things, like last year. If KM is expected to keep us running at anywhere near the current output.... A MF dog and another bullish, hardworking forward, would be on my wish list. |  | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:36 - Oct 29 with 1921 views | textbackup |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:30 - Oct 29 by Dubtractor |
Texters, mate, have you already forgotten Barnsley away?! |
I seem to have 😂
I think some have taken this post as I don’t rate Hirst, I really do, but i do think we need an upgrade. That’s all | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:43 - Oct 29 with 1905 views | Dubtractor |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:36 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
I seem to have 😂
I think some have taken this post as I don’t rate Hirst, I really do, but i do think we need an upgrade. That’s all |
Whatever all of our views, you can be certain that we'll try and add more firepower if we're still in the mix in January, and we' re almost certainly going to be unless we have a hell of a collapse. | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:47 - Oct 29 with 1897 views | MK1 |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:32 - Oct 29 by BigCommon |
Freddy and Hirst have served us well so far this season. I haven't got a problem with either player.. Although, having seen two of Plymouth's strikers pull up, with what looked like hamstring injuries, on Saturday. It just shows the dangers of over working players, heading into Winter conditions Fred already having his first niggle of the season....
Without doubt, we could do with another striker in a similar mold to Hirst, imo...
Regarding Scarlett. He hasn't had enough minutes in the right sort of games, to shine, imo. And its a tricky one for KM to mix up a successful formula. Same could be said for Taylors lack of game time, in MF.
There is every chance that we might need to mix things up a bit, 2nd half of the season. As teams work us out, tactically. And being as Scarlett will be here for the entire season, having played for 2 teams, already. Then there's plenty of time for him to contribute more. As the season moves on....We're only 13 games in.. We've had other players, playing bit parts, then making an impact... Harness being the latest example...
But, overall , we are going to need some squad bolstering in January, to reinvigorate things, like last year. If KM is expected to keep us running at anywhere near the current output.... A MF dog and another bullish, hardworking forward, would be on my wish list. |
We may not get a better chance at top 2 than this season after the start we have had, so the owners may got for it. I would like another up top, but not at any expense. | |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 08:06 - Oct 30 with 1722 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 20:36 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
I seem to have 😂
I think some have taken this post as I don’t rate Hirst, I really do, but i do think we need an upgrade. That’s all |
I know what you mean. Thought his all round game on Saturday (and at Bristol) was really good but if there’s a criticism it’s definitely around his finishing in situations like the one early Saturday. Club clearly wanted the backup/alternative in the Summer so guess they try again in January and we’ll then have two very decent forwards at this level plus Ladapo who is no mug. | | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 08:26 - Oct 30 with 1673 views | bobbyramsey |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 17:29 - Oct 29 by MK1 |
We have Hirst, Ladapo, Chaplin & Broadhead scoring. We do not play a style of football that relies upon a number 9 to get the goals. Our style means that any one of 4 or 5 can score at any time. I would like another striker coming in, but don't see it as crucial. |
Reminds me of the old adage before last season began;
"but where are the goals going to come from?" lol |  | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 09:05 - Oct 30 with 1632 views | WeWereZombies |
Maybe Simms will realise he joined the wrong club and angle for a loan move here in January ? |  |
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| We really need a new striker in Jan on 09:05 - Oct 30 with 1633 views | ibbleobble |
We had this debate last year deliberating on “who would score the goals?” and we scored at will from all of ver the pitch. That’s continued this season. While Hirst is integral to the way we play and Scarlett a noticeably inferior replacement, we still score regardless. | | | |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 09:08 - Oct 30 with 1628 views | NthQldITFC |
| We really need a new striker in Jan on 15:21 - Oct 29 by textbackup |
Another really good wasteful chance from him.
He scores that and the game is very different |
If you watch that chance back, you'll see the brilliant if odd way that Chaplin hooked the ball over the defender for Hurst put a massive amount of spin on the ball, which kicked massively left as it hit the turf. Hirst did pretty well to get it on target at all. |  |
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