| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had 11:34 - Dec 27 with 4371 views | Trequartista |
But Harness not being sent off seems to have been swept under the carpet. His first yellow was soft, but the second was nailed on. Got away with one there. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:23 - Dec 27 with 1043 views | xrayspecs |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:53 - Dec 27 by PhilTWTD |
Think he'll probably get it eventually, won't he? His original shot seemed to be on target even if it took two deflections. Not sure where they stand on two deflections in terms of crediting goals. |
Are you giving Hutchinson the assist Phil? |  | | |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:27 - Dec 27 with 1032 views | iamatractorboy |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:47 - Dec 27 by Herbivore |
Davis got wiped out in the box and nothing was given, I'd say that's a pretty big decision to be honest. I actually think our fans tend to overplay decisions that aren't given against us more than the ones we don't get. There's been loads of chat about Burgess on Dewsbury-Hall, as you yourself allude to yourself. |
I think Davis may have been slightly offside when he was subsequently taken out (not totally sure on that). VAR would've ruled out a pen. | | | |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:29 - Dec 27 with 1018 views | Herbivore |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:27 - Dec 27 by iamatractorboy |
I think Davis may have been slightly offside when he was subsequently taken out (not totally sure on that). VAR would've ruled out a pen. |
There's no VAR in the Championship and he wasn't given offside, so for me it's a pen. As I said, think the decisions leveled themselves out over the course of the game. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:44 - Dec 27 with 982 views | PhilTWTD |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:23 - Dec 27 by xrayspecs |
Are you giving Hutchinson the assist Phil? |
Obviously! Does Ricardo get it if it goes down as an own goal? |  | | |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:05 - Dec 27 with 935 views | xrayspecs |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:44 - Dec 27 by PhilTWTD |
Obviously! Does Ricardo get it if it goes down as an own goal? |
A legitimate claim I believe... | | | |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:06 - Dec 27 with 939 views | TheBoyBlue |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:52 - Dec 27 by SitfcB |
Their penalty shout wasn’t as stonewall as I thought after watching it back, would’ve been a harsh award.
Don’t think Harness’ ‘second yellow’ challenge would’ve been worthy of a card, player was hit as he was at speed and that always make it look worse. |
Was definitely a penalty, but you're absolutely right that it shouldn't have been a second yellow. Although some refs would've given it. Definitely got away with one there, but then there's a few we've been hard done by this season, so I guess it all evens up. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:15 - Dec 27 with 911 views | FrimleyBlue |
VAR really would have changed alot of the decisions last night Imo
Davis non pen
Handball im still not sure?
Their pen, seen them given
Harness 2nd foul, could VAR have got involved or not there?
Also, not that it matters at all but curious
Leeds first goal the other day, that chaplin foul..... had VAR been in place.. would the corner have been stopped? would the goal have been chalked off? or as ref just didn't give a freekick then VAR couldn't have done anything.. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:29 - Dec 27 with 893 views | Trequartista |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:15 - Dec 27 by FrimleyBlue |
VAR really would have changed alot of the decisions last night Imo
Davis non pen
Handball im still not sure?
Their pen, seen them given
Harness 2nd foul, could VAR have got involved or not there?
Also, not that it matters at all but curious
Leeds first goal the other day, that chaplin foul..... had VAR been in place.. would the corner have been stopped? would the goal have been chalked off? or as ref just didn't give a freekick then VAR couldn't have done anything.. |
The fact all your points are questions and not answers says everything about VAR. It should be binned asap. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 14:19 - Dec 27 with 851 views | jayessess |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 13:15 - Dec 27 by FrimleyBlue |
VAR really would have changed alot of the decisions last night Imo
Davis non pen
Handball im still not sure?
Their pen, seen them given
Harness 2nd foul, could VAR have got involved or not there?
Also, not that it matters at all but curious
Leeds first goal the other day, that chaplin foul..... had VAR been in place.. would the corner have been stopped? would the goal have been chalked off? or as ref just didn't give a freekick then VAR couldn't have done anything.. |
The Leeds goal would've stood because the corner counts as a new phase of play, they couldn't have called it back.
Unless Harness' 2nd foul was considered a straight red, they couldn't have re-reffed that either.
Their pen, VARs have not tended to overrule referees when it's about subjective "how hard did he push him" decisions. I think whatever decision the on-field ref takes for that one stands.
Davis non-penalty is a maybe. Late tackles are conventional given as a foul anywhere on the pitch except in the penalty area. Sometimes VAR does re-ref these things and actually apply the rules (although more often doesn't).
Don't think I've saw the handball referred to? When was it. VAR gives quite a lot of handballs that don't get given in any non-VARed division. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 14:46 - Dec 27 with 816 views | Trequartista |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:55 - Dec 27 by Trequartista |
I don't remember the Davis one, but from what you and others say, will take it as being a big one that went against us.
I think there might be some fans who overplay decisions against us, perhaps those who are trying to make things fit their narratives about certain players, but i would disagree that they are in the majority. I think if, for example, the Harness incident was an opposition player, it would have been brought up a lot more.
Edit - from other posts i can see the Davis incident led directly to the Harness incident. I do remember thinking it was a foul (hence why i labelled Harness' challenge a red mist challenge) but didn't realise it was in the area. [Post edited 27 Dec 2023 12:05]
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Have seen the Davis challenge again on the highlights, can now see why i didn't remember it because it was where he knocked it across goal and i was following the ball.
Technically its a foul and a penalty, but its similar to when a shot comes in and a tackle comes in later, they are often not given. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 15:29 - Dec 27 with 765 views | iamatractorboy |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:29 - Dec 27 by Herbivore |
There's no VAR in the Championship and he wasn't given offside, so for me it's a pen. As I said, think the decisions leveled themselves out over the course of the game. |
Sorry yes I just meant if we are saying VAR would give a foul on Davis, it would also give the offside. | | | |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 15:38 - Dec 27 with 744 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:52 - Dec 27 by SitfcB |
Their penalty shout wasn’t as stonewall as I thought after watching it back, would’ve been a harsh award.
Don’t think Harness’ ‘second yellow’ challenge would’ve been worthy of a card, player was hit as he was at speed and that always make it look worse. |
I agree with you on the penalty. Initially looked nailed on and I was surprised to see the ref wave it away. On replay it looked 50:50 whether it was shoulder to shoulder or a foul. Bearing in mind Dewsbury-Hall went down very easily when there was no foul earlier (and was lucky to avoid a booking for that), I think that may have played on the referee's mind.
As for the yellow, I think it was a clear card but one that referees don't often give if it is a second yellow. Coupled with the first one being harsh I again think that played on the referee's mind. However, when he decided the next one was a foul (I am not sure it was), it must have been mightily close to a yellow for persistent fouling and I think McKenna was wise to sub him shortly after. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 17:38 - Dec 27 with 697 views | Ely_Blue |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 11:48 - Dec 27 by Trequartista |
Don't think it hit Coady's hand? He pulled it away and the ball hit his ribs i thought.
In real time for their penalty, i did think 50/50 and that Burgess was using his strength to shield the ball, but looked like a penalty on replay.
I agree with you about the difference in the application of the laws of the game between Premier League and Championship. |
It hit Cody’s hand 100%, I sit in SARL and it was goal side which is probably why the ref didn’t see it properly, as for the KDH one for Leicester it was no different to the one Leeds had on Saturday after leifs foul |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 18:41 - Dec 27 with 670 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 17:38 - Dec 27 by Ely_Blue |
It hit Cody’s hand 100%, I sit in SARL and it was goal side which is probably why the ref didn’t see it properly, as for the KDH one for Leicester it was no different to the one Leeds had on Saturday after leifs foul |
On the TV replay it looked like it hit his chest. It was certainly very difficult to see any contact with the hand from the TV angle. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 21:14 - Dec 27 with 618 views | Swansea_Blue |
It would have been a travesty if Harness had been sent off. Both decisions were wrong. The first was never a yellow, while the second would often be given as one. 1 card was the correct result, but the ref got his working out completely wrong.
I thought the ref was pretty poor for both sides. He missed a lot and then went overboard on other stuff. |  |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 22:36 - Dec 27 with 581 views | Nutkins_Return |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 17:38 - Dec 27 by Ely_Blue |
It hit Cody’s hand 100%, I sit in SARL and it was goal side which is probably why the ref didn’t see it properly, as for the KDH one for Leicester it was no different to the one Leeds had on Saturday after leifs foul |
It didn't. The showed a close up slow mo and it hits his chest as he pulls is hand away at same time which made it look like arm. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 22:37 - Dec 27 with 582 views | Nutkins_Return |
| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 12:03 - Dec 27 by PhilTWTD |
But if it was on target initially, shouldn't it still be Morsy's goal? I don't know where they stand when there have been two deflections like that. I would guess if it had caught a defender and the keeper had then got a hand to it it would have gone down as Morsy's goal, so the same ought to apply if it was two outfield players. |
Did wonder the same thing but the surely has to be if the deflection has taken it off target and then redirected back on target it's an own goal.
Would love Morsy to have it but...it's really not his goal. | |
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| sky made a lot of the penalty Leicester should have had on 00:46 - Dec 28 with 548 views | BigCommon |
Harness was a lucky boy...
Burgess potential penalty/foul looked almost identical to the one given against Leif at Leeds.. Where he gets across the player but doesn't play the ball. If ref gives that, its probably a straight red. As DH looked through on goal..
Haven't seen any replay on Davis getting cleaned out in their box. Some strong appeals suggest he was fouled..
Thought ref let quite a lot go, in the game. Couple of times Burns was caught and nothing given... In fairness to the ref, I thought he tried to let it flow. He could see that both sides were trying to slow down each others transition with niggly fouls and he just let those ones go, trying to play advantage..
I thought that the Harness 2nd foul, and the Burgess close call on the pen, were two that went our way...
We didn't get a single one of those at Elland Rd, a few days earlier. Swings and roundabouts... |  | | |
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