| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:02 - Mar 6 with 4775 views | LankHenners |
EFL statement seems to suggest there's no immediate danger to them in terms of punishment other than their situation likely meaning needing to raise funds through player sales in the summer. Seems to say the main issue rising from this is a discussion over amending the rules so a club in this situation again would face more serious consequences. |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:03 - Mar 6 with 4756 views | Trequartista |
That's a weird interpretation of the efl statement from the Guardian.
https://www.efl.com/news/2024/march/06/efl-statement--leicester-city/
Why has this crucial paragraph been totally ignored?
"That matter was referred by the Club to the independent Club Financial Reporting Panel (CFRP) which concluded that under the Rules as currently written, Rule 2.9 did not apply to the Club and so it was under no obligation to submit and agree to a business plan. "
Basically Leicester successfully found a loophole which will be closed in the future, is how i read it. [Post edited 6 Mar 23:04]
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:10 - Mar 6 with 4670 views | Illinoisblue |
Not this season they won’t |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:12 - Mar 6 with 4631 views | ArmaghBlue |
Either way, I bet the points deduction would not happen this season. |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:20 - Mar 6 with 4571 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:03 - Mar 6 by Trequartista |
That's a weird interpretation of the efl statement from the Guardian.
https://www.efl.com/news/2024/march/06/efl-statement--leicester-city/
Why has this crucial paragraph been totally ignored?
"That matter was referred by the Club to the independent Club Financial Reporting Panel (CFRP) which concluded that under the Rules as currently written, Rule 2.9 did not apply to the Club and so it was under no obligation to submit and agree to a business plan. "
Basically Leicester successfully found a loophole which will be closed in the future, is how i read it. [Post edited 6 Mar 23:04]
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Goes on to say they need to meet the same regulations of all EFL clubs this season and they lost their appeal to say it didn’t apply to them? |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:21 - Mar 6 with 4562 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:10 - Mar 6 by Illinoisblue |
Not this season they won’t |
Others are saying it depends how big the breach is on March 1st | | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:40 - Mar 6 with 4450 views | Tonytown |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:21 - Mar 6 by ElderGrizzly |
Others are saying it depends how big the breach is on March 1st |
They have to comply by 30 June. It may mean selling players mind |  | | |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 00:21 - Mar 7 with 4306 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 23:21 - Mar 6 by ElderGrizzly |
Others are saying it depends how big the breach is on March 1st |
Haven’t seen that mentioned and surely it’s irrelevant if they’re over the limit by 100 quid or 1million. Their argument seems to be “we were in the premier league so don’t be asking us to play by EFL reporting rules when we weren’t even in the football league”. And you can guarantee if the EFL have left a door open, modern clubs with their armies of smart lawyers will be kicking that door off its hinges. | |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 06:02 - Mar 7 with 3940 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 00:21 - Mar 7 by Illinoisblue |
Haven’t seen that mentioned and surely it’s irrelevant if they’re over the limit by 100 quid or 1million. Their argument seems to be “we were in the premier league so don’t be asking us to play by EFL reporting rules when we weren’t even in the football league”. And you can guarantee if the EFL have left a door open, modern clubs with their armies of smart lawyers will be kicking that door off its hinges. |
In any case, if we do go up, I'd rather it was in regular fashion for footballing ability, & not because they, Leeds or So'ton had points deducted for off-field breaches - the latter would take a bit of the gloss off promotion for me (quite apart from the "lucky little Ipswich" tag then being aggravatingly spun by them & others for years to come). |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 07:34 - Mar 7 with 3592 views | Vic |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 06:02 - Mar 7 by Ryorry |
In any case, if we do go up, I'd rather it was in regular fashion for footballing ability, & not because they, Leeds or So'ton had points deducted for off-field breaches - the latter would take a bit of the gloss off promotion for me (quite apart from the "lucky little Ipswich" tag then being aggravatingly spun by them & others for years to come). |
Mind you, it would be nice for something to work in our favour for a change. Remember how the ITV deal collapsed at the very time we went down? Probably wouldn’t have gone in to admin had that not happened. |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 07:48 - Mar 7 with 3513 views | Pinewoodblue |
Every club faces potential points deduction if they don’t stick to the rules,
My take is that Leicester broke the rules last season but avoided a points deduction in this years Championship because EFL are too loosely written. EPL could probably apply points deduction next season.
Now for this season. Championship clubs are required to submit projected accounts in advance and EFL have the right, if they think regulations will be breached, to impose a business plan on any club EFL believe Leicester will exceed the permitted loss( £83m over 3 years). Leicester refused and appealed that, again because EFL rules looselywritten, the need to supply advance information didn’t apply to them.
Outcome of that is it will be too late make a points deduction this season..
Best outcome is for Leicester to fail to finish in top2, lose in playoffs and get punished next season. |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 08:48 - Mar 7 with 3230 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 07:34 - Mar 7 by Vic |
Mind you, it would be nice for something to work in our favour for a change. Remember how the ITV deal collapsed at the very time we went down? Probably wouldn’t have gone in to admin had that not happened. |
Parachute payments didn’t exist and we got into Europe for least yellow cards! £££ |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 11:54 - Mar 7 with 2816 views | Alberto_the_frog |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 07:48 - Mar 7 by Pinewoodblue |
Every club faces potential points deduction if they don’t stick to the rules,
My take is that Leicester broke the rules last season but avoided a points deduction in this years Championship because EFL are too loosely written. EPL could probably apply points deduction next season.
Now for this season. Championship clubs are required to submit projected accounts in advance and EFL have the right, if they think regulations will be breached, to impose a business plan on any club EFL believe Leicester will exceed the permitted loss( £83m over 3 years). Leicester refused and appealed that, again because EFL rules looselywritten, the need to supply advance information didn’t apply to them.
Outcome of that is it will be too late make a points deduction this season..
Best outcome is for Leicester to fail to finish in top2, lose in playoffs and get punished next season. |
EFL won't punish them this year as it was EPL rule that was broken, and EPL can't as they are not in Premier League. Next year it will be vice versa for breaking EFL rules but they'll be in EPL by then. |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 12:08 - Mar 7 with 2729 views | Ryorry |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 11:54 - Mar 7 by Alberto_the_frog |
EFL won't punish them this year as it was EPL rule that was broken, and EPL can't as they are not in Premier League. Next year it will be vice versa for breaking EFL rules but they'll be in EPL by then. |
And their fans will probably still be calling us lucky ...  | |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 13:30 - Mar 7 with 2528 views | nshearman1 |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 11:54 - Mar 7 by Alberto_the_frog |
EFL won't punish them this year as it was EPL rule that was broken, and EPL can't as they are not in Premier League. Next year it will be vice versa for breaking EFL rules but they'll be in EPL by then. |
The iniquities of Championship football and the abhorrent influence of the EPL there for all to see. None of the broadcasters will highlight this because they need the rights to show the football. | | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 16:47 - Mar 7 with 2198 views | ClareBlue |
When do you technically become a member of the new league if you are promoted or relagated. I always assumed 1st June, based on no evidence what so ever. | | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 16:58 - Mar 7 with 2138 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 16:47 - Mar 7 by ClareBlue |
When do you technically become a member of the new league if you are promoted or relagated. I always assumed 1st June, based on no evidence what so ever. |
Would have thought it was when you agree to abide by the rules. | |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 20:21 - Mar 7 with 1931 views | Aero |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 16:58 - Mar 7 by Pinewoodblue |
Would have thought it was when you agree to abide by the rules. |
Lucky Leicester! |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:07 - Mar 8 with 1521 views | Yppswyche |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 12:08 - Mar 7 by Ryorry |
And their fans will probably still be calling us lucky ... |
Amazing how little we collectively are making of this, the greatest slice of extreme fortune - getting away scot-free from cheating - this season, whilst the Leicester fans endlessly harp on erroneously about us being constantly ‘lucky’ just because we scored a deflected equaliser against them… |  | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:13 - Mar 8 with 1492 views | GeoffSentence |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:07 - Mar 8 by Yppswyche |
Amazing how little we collectively are making of this, the greatest slice of extreme fortune - getting away scot-free from cheating - this season, whilst the Leicester fans endlessly harp on erroneously about us being constantly ‘lucky’ just because we scored a deflected equaliser against them… |
I think we all know nothing will happen with this. Or if it does not in a timeframe or manner that will help us. |  |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:16 - Mar 8 with 1460 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:07 - Mar 8 by Yppswyche |
Amazing how little we collectively are making of this, the greatest slice of extreme fortune - getting away scot-free from cheating - this season, whilst the Leicester fans endlessly harp on erroneously about us being constantly ‘lucky’ just because we scored a deflected equaliser against them… |
We will no doubt be taking full advantage of the rules, possibly sailing close to the wind. | |
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:16 - Mar 8 with 1460 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Love the way you write ‘have to get a decision this season’ and then 2 paragraphs into the article you link it says ‘If found in breach, it is unclear when any punishment would come into effect.’
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| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:34 - Mar 8 with 1401 views | itfc_bucks |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 16:47 - Mar 7 by ClareBlue |
When do you technically become a member of the new league if you are promoted or relagated. I always assumed 1st June, based on no evidence what so ever. |
Wasn't there a case on this involving Sheffield United and Warnock? He got fired and claimed he was due more due to them being in one League rather than the other?
May not have been Warnock, mind, but I'm pretty sure it was Sheffield United. | | | |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:59 - Mar 8 with 1340 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Leicester facing potential points deduction on 10:34 - Mar 8 by itfc_bucks |
Wasn't there a case on this involving Sheffield United and Warnock? He got fired and claimed he was due more due to them being in one League rather than the other?
May not have been Warnock, mind, but I'm pretty sure it was Sheffield United. |
Joe Royle & Manchester City springs to mind. He won his case lost his appeal, which came at a critical time in what should have been a promotion season for Town. | |
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