| Such a strange feeling 07:52 - Apr 14 with 5304 views | Chrisd |
We sit top of the Championship with 3 games to go and any Town fan would’ve taken that back in August, but I really do feel we’ve let a huge opportunity slip through our fingers with those two home games. What concerns me is we’ve got two extremely tough away games up next, against teams with something to play for. Let’s be honest, we have looked far from convincing in recent away games too and goals are proving difficult to come by currently. Come the Huddersfield game, it might count for nothing.
Such a strange situation. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 7:58]
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| Such a strange feeling on 09:47 - Apr 14 with 1267 views | Herbivore |
Leeds fans will be saying exactly the same, except they aren't top of the table with it all in their hands still. They've got three tough remaining games, two away from home, and have taken one point from back to back home fixtures that were, by every measure, far easier than our home fixtures. It's natural to feel disappointed, we were millimetres away from taking 6 points from these two games and if we'd done that we'd be on the brink of sealing promotion. It's fine margins at this level and they've not gone out way but we're still playing well, we have a 2 week break to rest tired legs and get some injured players back, and promotion remains very much in our hands still. |  |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:11 - Apr 14 with 1241 views | billlm |
| Such a strange feeling on 08:14 - Apr 14 by NthQldITFC |
We looked so much more like ourselves yesterday, particularly in the first half. I feel we've got over our illnesses, or got some energy back or something, and with an additional two weeks off where Hull and Cov have to play some tough games, and with the possibility of Burns back I'm feeling pretty damned good about going into our last three.
And that's the only relevant thing. We can talk about letting huge opportunity slip, but then so can Leeds and so can Leicester, so it makes not a jot of difference. All that matters is what state you're in for the last three, and I'm thinking we're going to be in a better state than those other two clubs, physically and mentally all told. |
I hope they don't push burns a hamstring is a bad injury to risk him now risks the start of next season, on the flip side we badly miss him, omaris good no doubt but gives us a ten option as atm Chaplin isn't firing,
I'm a bit disappointed one win would have been better,
Hopefully saints don't put to much pressure on us but do us a favour,
Great if they beat Leicester,
I agree yesterday we didn't look tired we've just lost our scoring boots ATM but did run out of ideas in the end, two grey saves but so did their keeper,
Watford and Boro are no mugs in the championship and will be forces next season if we're still here, |  | | |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:16 - Apr 14 with 1232 views | Ryorry |
| Such a strange feeling on 09:30 - Apr 14 by franz_tyson |
I think some are just unwilling to hide their disappointment. We're humans and not machines, too. I don't want to disappear down a rabbit-hole where I'm pretending I'm not disappointed. |
Of course people are disappointed (including me!) and shouldn't hide it unless they actually prefer to keep it to themselves. But there's a difference between that and feeling "entitled", or taking their criticism of players & KM to unrealistic & unfair levels. |  |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:16 - Apr 14 with 1229 views | billlm |
| Such a strange feeling on 08:29 - Apr 14 by EastTownBlue |
Agree that even an additional couple of points this week would given us a more comfortable feeling.
Not saying that it will make the task any easier but there is no guarantee Coventry and Hull will have anything to play for in a couple of weeks time. |
If we'd won one of these last two we'd be almost up would be difficult for Leeds and saints to catch us and get rid of Leicesters game in hand alas we didn't take advantage,
Probably need 7 points 5 could do it but l and l need to lose one each, | | | |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:21 - Apr 14 with 1215 views | charlie1 |
I know exactly what you mean, but Hull and Coventry will have to attack if they want to anchieve anything in the league this season, and that suits us best.
It’s the negative, defensive tactics (Norwich) that we struggle to break down. | | | |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:25 - Apr 14 with 1211 views | Herbivore |
| Such a strange feeling on 08:46 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
No games are easy in the Championship, but if you are at home and pushing for the title you should be getting a better return than 2pts from two home games with two extremely tricky away fixtures coming up.
So, be honest you’d have taken two points before we played Watford and Boro? We both know the answer to that. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 8:47]
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If you're pushing for the title, how many points should you take from home games against Sunderland and Blackburn? Football doesn't work the way you think it works. Yes it's disappointing we didn't get more points as we had the chances to do so, but it wasn't for want of trying and it wasn't as though we were playing pub sides. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:38 - Apr 14 with 1176 views | Chrisd |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:25 - Apr 14 by Herbivore |
If you're pushing for the title, how many points should you take from home games against Sunderland and Blackburn? Football doesn't work the way you think it works. Yes it's disappointing we didn't get more points as we had the chances to do so, but it wasn't for want of trying and it wasn't as though we were playing pub sides. |
If you look at a lot of teams yesterday pushing for the title/promotion across the leagues they got the job done. Doesn’t matter what league you play in, as it is all relative whether it was Man City, Derby County, Stockport, Wrexham or Mansfield. Teams like that find a way. Although yesterday was a better performance overall, without Hladky’s two terrific saves in that second half we could quite easily have lost that game. All 3 sides are really struggling to get over the line in the Championship, those home games are crucial for us as I’m not over convinced by our performances away, in fact we’ve looked quite toothless since Blackburn away. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:49]
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:41 - Apr 14 with 1166 views | peterleeblue |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:38 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
If you look at a lot of teams yesterday pushing for the title/promotion across the leagues they got the job done. Doesn’t matter what league you play in, as it is all relative whether it was Man City, Derby County, Stockport, Wrexham or Mansfield. Teams like that find a way. Although yesterday was a better performance overall, without Hladky’s two terrific saves in that second half we could quite easily have lost that game. All 3 sides are really struggling to get over the line in the Championship, those home games are crucial for us as I’m not over convinced by our performances away, in fact we’ve looked quite toothless since Blackburn away. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:49]
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Ever thought why it is that the teams in the championship are struggling to get the job done? [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:42]
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:43 - Apr 14 with 1153 views | Trequartista |
You have to remember Leeds and Leicester, although coming from a different place to us, have just let exactly the same opportunities slip. At this point of the season, despite McKenna taking no notice of it (rightly from his perspective), if all the contenders win or all the contenders lose, it makes no difference. |  |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:47 - Apr 14 with 1141 views | Chrisd |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:43 - Apr 14 by Trequartista |
You have to remember Leeds and Leicester, although coming from a different place to us, have just let exactly the same opportunities slip. At this point of the season, despite McKenna taking no notice of it (rightly from his perspective), if all the contenders win or all the contenders lose, it makes no difference. |
You are right and I agree with a lot that many have mentioned on this thread, but I just have this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us. I just hope I’m proved wrong. Perhaps it’s just being a Town fan, we never seem to do things easily. With Leeds and Leicester continually faltering it was the prime opportunity in recent weeks to capitalise. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:48 - Apr 14 with 1138 views | Herbivore |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:38 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
If you look at a lot of teams yesterday pushing for the title/promotion across the leagues they got the job done. Doesn’t matter what league you play in, as it is all relative whether it was Man City, Derby County, Stockport, Wrexham or Mansfield. Teams like that find a way. Although yesterday was a better performance overall, without Hladky’s two terrific saves in that second half we could quite easily have lost that game. All 3 sides are really struggling to get over the line in the Championship, those home games are crucial for us as I’m not over convinced by our performances away, in fact we’ve looked quite toothless since Blackburn away. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:49]
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We've only played one away game since Blackburn away, not sure a sample size of one is a good barometer. Middlesbrough won at both Leicester and Saints, they are no mugs away from home. Watford likewise are a good side on their travels. You say we could have lost yesterday but equally we could have won, we hit the post and had a host of other chances and their keeper didn't exactly have a quiet afternoon. Likewise we could have won on Wednesday if Moore plants that header anywhere else or Broadhead's shot spins the other way after hitting the post. It's fine margins, it's not like we've lost our arses and suddenly can't play. Leeds and Leicester look to be struggling a lot more than us right now, losing and drawing to teams much worse than those we've not won against in recent weeks. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:50 - Apr 14 with 1131 views | Chrisd |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:48 - Apr 14 by Herbivore |
We've only played one away game since Blackburn away, not sure a sample size of one is a good barometer. Middlesbrough won at both Leicester and Saints, they are no mugs away from home. Watford likewise are a good side on their travels. You say we could have lost yesterday but equally we could have won, we hit the post and had a host of other chances and their keeper didn't exactly have a quiet afternoon. Likewise we could have won on Wednesday if Moore plants that header anywhere else or Broadhead's shot spins the other way after hitting the post. It's fine margins, it's not like we've lost our arses and suddenly can't play. Leeds and Leicester look to be struggling a lot more than us right now, losing and drawing to teams much worse than those we've not won against in recent weeks. |
It’s those fine margins that will see us promoted and it could be those missed chances which prove so costly too. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:52]
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:52 - Apr 14 with 1130 views | Trequartista |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:47 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
You are right and I agree with a lot that many have mentioned on this thread, but I just have this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us. I just hope I’m proved wrong. Perhaps it’s just being a Town fan, we never seem to do things easily. With Leeds and Leicester continually faltering it was the prime opportunity in recent weeks to capitalise. |
Its easy to think that given the current situation, but in the end its a 46 game season, and we've probably won more games that could have gone either way, than drawn those that we were the better side. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:55 - Apr 14 with 1114 views | Ryorry |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:47 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
You are right and I agree with a lot that many have mentioned on this thread, but I just have this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us. I just hope I’m proved wrong. Perhaps it’s just being a Town fan, we never seem to do things easily. With Leeds and Leicester continually faltering it was the prime opportunity in recent weeks to capitalise. |
"this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us."
You wouldn't have said that if those 2 home draws had been in say Sept. & Oct. though would you? It's only because we've been having this wobble so close to the finishing line, where we can see the golden gates of the promised land but aren't getting any closer than one inch per game atm, that you feel like that. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 10:57 - Apr 14 with 1102 views | Trequartista |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:55 - Apr 14 by Ryorry |
"this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us."
You wouldn't have said that if those 2 home draws had been in say Sept. & Oct. though would you? It's only because we've been having this wobble so close to the finishing line, where we can see the golden gates of the promised land but aren't getting any closer than one inch per game atm, that you feel like that. |
You don't even need to go that far back. If Southampton had been drawn and we'd won 1-0 yesterday we'd be on exactly the same points saying "wobble, what wobble?" | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 11:01 - Apr 14 with 1085 views | Ryorry |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:57 - Apr 14 by Trequartista |
You don't even need to go that far back. If Southampton had been drawn and we'd won 1-0 yesterday we'd be on exactly the same points saying "wobble, what wobble?" |
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| Such a strange feeling on 11:01 - Apr 14 with 1085 views | Chrisd |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:55 - Apr 14 by Ryorry |
"this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us."
You wouldn't have said that if those 2 home draws had been in say Sept. & Oct. though would you? It's only because we've been having this wobble so close to the finishing line, where we can see the golden gates of the promised land but aren't getting any closer than one inch per game atm, that you feel like that. |
Of course, but the fact Leeds and Leicester have fluffed their lines recently too makes it seem an opportunity lost. This is the business end of the season and we’ve put ourselves in such a terrific position, but we now seem incapable of getting over that line, we are stumbling towards it.
This is why it is strange for me. I should feel happy we are top, but I just don’t think we’ll get the job done, especially watching our recent away performances against Blackburn and Norwich where we looked poor. Coventry and Hull are now huge fixtures. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 11:40 - Apr 14 with 1046 views | LancsBlue |
OK we have only taken two points from two home games, Leeds have taken only one from two seemingly easier home games and Leicester nothing from two games that they might have been expected to take points from. Do you not think they might be looking at having "let a huge opportunity slip through our fingers". We are in a better position than we were two games ago, with only three games to go. We have a two week break to get everyone fit and rested, Hull and Coventry could easily have nothing to play for. For Coventry it will be their 4th match in 10 days including a Wembley semi-final, so they are likely to be knackered. So why all the pessimism? Which of Leeds or Leicester would you swap places with? Oh and we've won 4 of our last 6 away games, losing 1-0 to the best home form team in the division and being on the end of a freak result at Cardiff - very unconvincing. This season has been unbelievable, even if we don't win another game, yet some so-called fans still find reasons to be negative - now that is a strange situation. |  |
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| Such a strange feeling on 12:01 - Apr 14 with 1030 views | FoghornGleghorn |
I have to keep looking back at the last couple of days' results to make sure I read them correctly, because there's a lot of really strange takes going on on here.
We just unexpectedly drew with two fairly decent sides. Leeds and Leicester just unexpectedly lost to sides in the bottom third, Leicester twice. Yet there seems to be this weird implication that that didn't matter in either case, because they're both suddenly going to start winning again (in the harder games they've now got coming up, including Southampton), but we're not so we've blown it?
Our rivals are stuttering, more so than we are. Our situation is even better than it was 48 hours ago. It's still in our hands. Get a collective grip. | | | |
| Such a strange feeling on 12:16 - Apr 14 with 1005 views | pointofblue |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:47 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
You are right and I agree with a lot that many have mentioned on this thread, but I just have this nasty feeling that those two home draws are going to come back to bite us. I just hope I’m proved wrong. Perhaps it’s just being a Town fan, we never seem to do things easily. With Leeds and Leicester continually faltering it was the prime opportunity in recent weeks to capitalise. |
If we don't go up I'll be looking at Birmingham, Rotherham, Huddersfield and Cardiff away before the last two matches. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 12:27 - Apr 14 with 992 views | Herbivore |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:50 - Apr 14 by Chrisd |
It’s those fine margins that will see us promoted and it could be those missed chances which prove so costly too. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 10:52]
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But we've been on the right side of those margins more often than not over the course of the season. Unless the expectation is that we never miss a chance and never concede and we win every game, I'm not sure what you expect. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 12:32 - Apr 14 with 979 views | NthQldITFC |
| Such a strange feeling on 12:16 - Apr 14 by pointofblue |
If we don't go up I'll be looking at Birmingham, Rotherham, Huddersfield and Cardiff away before the last two matches. |
I'm still looking at the seventh goal at Old Trafford, thinking if only the bas***d ref had let Forrest get back to his goal before the free kick was taken, that game could have panned out much differently. |  |
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| Such a strange feeling on 13:15 - Apr 14 with 949 views | peterleeblue |
| Such a strange feeling on 10:57 - Apr 14 by Trequartista |
You don't even need to go that far back. If Southampton had been drawn and we'd won 1-0 yesterday we'd be on exactly the same points saying "wobble, what wobble?" |
It would be worse because Southampton would have an extra point!!! | | | |
| Such a strange feeling on 13:22 - Apr 14 with 946 views | Trequartista |
| Such a strange feeling on 13:15 - Apr 14 by peterleeblue |
It would be worse because Southampton would have an extra point!!! |
That's true, but this in the context of how we are feeling about our situation. There were times in that match where we weren't looking like getting a point, let alone three. | |
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| Such a strange feeling on 17:22 - Apr 14 with 877 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Such a strange feeling on 07:57 - Apr 14 by tractorboy1978 |
A lot of football to be played between now and when we face Hull.
Leeds play twice.
Leicester play twice.
Hull play twice.
Coventry play once (against Hull).
The landscape could look very different in a positive or negative way by 27th April. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 7:58]
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It’s the negative side that would concern me. I’d think we’d really feel the pressure if for example we’re 4 points behind and down to Third. I still think we’ll need to draw at Hull and beat Cov and Udds to secure it. [Post edited 14 Apr 2024 17:34]
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